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Stahlseele
post Jan 4 2008, 08:15 PM
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personally, i like patlabor stile-wise . . but it's not really shadowrun useable . . at least . . NOT YET ! A HYUK A HYUK! *g*
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post Jan 5 2008, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele)
personally, i like patlabor stile-wise . . but it's not really shadowrun useable . . at least . . NOT YET ! A HYUK A HYUK! *g*

One of my favorites from the patlabor series is the movie, WXIII. Very far removed from the patlabors other than its in the background and at the end when they need to call in the labors. I just love the style there and the change from the usual mecha movies.
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post Jan 9 2008, 05:09 PM
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Just a note, the first film and first series are both the same story from the original manga just interpreted by different directors. Puppeteer (manga)=Puppet master (film)=Laughing Man (series). I would say of the three the series is by far the best by expanding more into the personal lives of the section 9 officers and there by making it more compelling of a story.
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post Jan 9 2008, 06:13 PM
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I, um… either you're completely off-base, or I desperately need to reread the manga. It has no meaningful resemblance whatsoever that I can remember.

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post Jan 9 2008, 06:43 PM
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Another interesting thing is if you read the mangas, you'll see quite a few parts that are later used in the stand alone complex series (and film). That includes the sniper fight in the later film, I saw that in one of the mangas (IIRC).
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post Jan 9 2008, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE (Crusher Bob)
Depends on your taste, I guess. Innocence might be described as 'selected reading from philosophy textbooks with audiovisual accompanyment'. The TV show is much more accessible, even more so than the first movie

Except for that last episode of the first season of Stand Alone Complex. Quite a bit of referencing to different philosophies in under a five minute span. I had to rewatch it a few times and then look up stuff to appreciate it a bit more. *sigh* They're putting thinking stuff into my bang-bang action entertainment... the horrors!!! :dead:
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post Jan 9 2008, 07:08 PM
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There are a couple of those about 1/2 way through 2nd Gig that you really have to back up and rewatch. One with Batou and the bad guy on a roof top, and one with the Tachikomas. Having them talk philosophy in their sing song voices is really distracting.
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post Jan 9 2008, 07:10 PM
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the tachikomas are somehow ALLWAYS distracting to me at least x.x . .
but heck, i like them even better that way *g*
one of the best reasons to watch the whole show is to see the tachikoma special on the end of each episode ^^
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post Jan 10 2008, 08:59 PM
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The only way I could have gotten through 2nd Gig was that I took a Japanese History class (Meiji-Present) in college.
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post Jan 10 2008, 10:19 PM
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what's that got to do with anything?
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post Jan 11 2008, 04:00 AM
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have watched several episodes of this show and never really got into it. Yeah the chick isn't bad and i can see the shadowrun aspects but it never jostled my junk to a degree of anything above mild interest.
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post Jan 11 2008, 02:41 PM
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Hocus- glad to see you- you just do not like the fact the show has an almost all male cast and the main female character is a mature woman. ;)

QUOTE (martindv @ Jan 10 2008, 03:59 PM)
The only way I could have gotten through 2nd Gig was that I took a Japanese History class (Meiji-Present) in college.

I'm going to second that. Considering it is set after a significant change in the world with 2 world wars, one nuclear one not I do not see why you needed a history class. That is like saying you need a history class before you play SR.
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post Jan 11 2008, 03:40 PM
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That is like saying you need a history class before you play SR.

feels like it often enough *g*
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post Jan 11 2008, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE (Daddy's Little Ninja)
Hocus- glad to see you- you just do not like the fact the show has an almost all male cast and the main female character is a mature woman.  ;)



The sight of an intelligent, mature, competent woman in a leadership role both frightens, and intimidates me to the 25th power! Gimmie the ultra hot, vapid, naive, buxom babe any day O the week! They should fill the ranks with those instead of the all male supporting cast. That'd definately draw my interest and many others ta boot lemme tell ya.
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post Jan 12 2008, 02:26 AM
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Hocus, the Major is an intelligent, mature woman with a gun. If you were very lucky she'd only test the limits of your dental plan.
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post Jan 12 2008, 03:22 AM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 10 2008, 05:19 PM)
what's that got to do with anything?

If you have to ask, then you probably weren't paying close enough attention to the story.


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I'm going to second that. Considering it is set after a significant change in the world with 2 world wars, one nuclear one not I do not see why you needed a history class. That is like saying you need a history class before you play SR.

Well, because of it I knew who the Individualist Eleven were based on, and therefore had a grasp on the entire plot of Section 9 trying to figure out who and what was going on.

So why it mattered to me, and was crucial to following the show, was because history and politics were so obviously important to the writers.


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Hocus, the Major is an intelligent, mature woman with a gun. If you were very lucky she'd only test the limits of your dental plan.

I'm terrified of the patron saint of lesbian stripper ninja characters.
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post Jan 12 2008, 03:48 AM
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I still say it's a travesty that they cut the lesbian orgy pin-up from the US manga release.

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post Jan 12 2008, 04:32 AM
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Good grief.
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post Jan 12 2008, 07:06 AM
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QUOTE (Snow_Fox)
Hocus, the Major is an intelligent, mature woman with a gun. If you were very lucky she'd only test the limits of your dental plan.

hots, but I think if I was very lucky she'd test ALL my limits!


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post Jan 12 2008, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 10 2008, 05:19 PM)
what's that got to do with anything?


If you have to ask, then you probably weren't paying close enough attention to the story.

well, no, of course not O.o
i watch such stuff for the action . . heck, the way i watched NGE only took about 2 hours for the complete series *g*
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post Jan 12 2008, 07:31 PM
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The explained the "Individual 11" incident in the cartoon, the terrorist group in the toon was based on a false book that never existed-something that also came out in the toon.

GitS is really well written and 2nd Gig has the tightest writing of all. They waste nothing and give you all the details you need, but you do have to pay attention. Just watch it for the shoot ups and you miss that.
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post Jan 12 2008, 07:39 PM
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yeah, but if you watch it for that, you're gonna miss the shoot ups O.o
i watch anime to have fun, not to have some deep philosophical cultural, historical experience . . because there's neither magic nor mecha in those! *g*
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post Jan 12 2008, 07:48 PM
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What?

If you're going to claim that 2nd Gig has tight writing, you're going to have to do some serious 'splaining regarding episodes 10, 11, and 14.

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post Jan 12 2008, 08:44 PM
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which were those?
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post Jan 12 2008, 08:55 PM
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The trial episode, the episode about Kusanagi's memories, and the episode with the sharpshooter-guy playing poker and telling stories (possibly fictional) about his past.

They all served a purpose, IIRC, but managed to do so in a way that, even for the memories one (which introduced some major new information), the series would have been left stronger if they'd simply not been included.

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