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 Jan 10 2008, 04:55 AM
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Immoral Elf  Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486  |
See, I don't think that is the case. I believe that a person must actually be able to utilize the type of Focus he is trying to Bond before he can successfully do so. |
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Jan 10 2008, 05:24 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686 |
Ok, book quote? |
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Jan 10 2008, 08:22 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I supplied an applicable one earlier ...
Note that Adepts are missing from the list of awakened people that can Bond all types of Foci |
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Jan 10 2008, 04:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 433 Joined: 8-November 07 Member No.: 14,097 |
I think I agree with your interpretation about the other foci. For the Centering and Masking foci, it's simply common sense that if an Adept can use those metamagics, they can use the foci. For the power focus, while it might not be especially efficient to use one, for the sake of completeness it doesn't make sense that a Mystic Adept could bond a Power Focus and get a bonus to Magic tests with their Adept powers, but an Adept could not. On a tangent (and apologies for wandering off topic), I don't remember reading anything specific about how a Power Focus applies to Mystic Adepts. Does it improve both aspects of their Magic (magic skills and physical powers), or do they have to choose which aspect a Power Focus helps when bonding? I would assume the first one, but since it's not really spelled out I was wondering if there were any other opinions. DS |
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Jan 10 2008, 06:35 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
A Power Focus doesn't actually add directly to the Magic Rating. When active, it applies its rating to any tests that involve the Magic Attribute itself.
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Jan 10 2008, 07:06 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686 |
Yes, but thats only applicable to the advanced metamagic foci in street magic. The basic foci in SR4 only refer to bonding to their owner. With no requirements to be said owner. |
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Jan 10 2008, 07:44 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I wonder what the words 'As with all types of foci' actually mean then.
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Jan 10 2008, 08:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 433 Joined: 8-November 07 Member No.: 14,097 |
Yes I understand the distinction, but a Mystic Adept in many ways has two (three...) different Magic attribute ratings. As I said, I would assume the Power Focus applies to a test involving any aspect of the character's Magic (and in which case a Mystic Adept in effect gets more mileage out of a Power Focus than the other Awakened types), but I was curious if there were differing opinions. |
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Jan 10 2008, 08:23 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
The spell stops as soon as it leaves her finger. A sustaining focus must remain in physical contact with the target of the spell at all times. If physical contact is broken for any reason then the spell is ended. |
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Jan 10 2008, 10:38 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 829 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 770 |
Not contact with the target of the spell, that was sr3 and earlier. In sr4 the sustaining focus must remain in contact with the mage who bonded it (opening the question of what happens when the target of a spell your focus is sustaining is another person and they pass through a ward.)
Though yes, the spell would end as soon as the ring left her finger because the focus would deactivate. |
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