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Larsine
post Jan 11 2008, 05:53 AM
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So it's nearly 2 years since we last had an update of the PDF version af the SR4 rulebook.

Last reprint didn't give us any update because of the Fanpro/Catlyst thing.

Will we have an updated PDF this time?

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post Jan 11 2008, 02:41 PM
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As far as I can tell, since it looks like there will be a new hardcopy printing (first one by catalyst) coming up, then we should have a PDF update as well. More information can be found in Adam's blog post on the CGL home page.
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post Jan 11 2008, 10:21 PM
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Adam's blog on the SR4 homepage was what made me ask.

Last time the rulebook was reprinted, we couldn't get an update because it was difficult to give something away for free (The CGL SR4 PDF) to customer who bought something else (the FanPro SR4 PDF).

So I was hoping Adam would clarify that this problem had been solved, and that we would recieve updated PDFs at the same time as the release of the hardcopy.

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post Jan 12 2008, 03:18 AM
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We still have to work out exactly how this situation will be solved, but it will be solved [or a bunch of duct tape will be used], and we'll have an announcement sometime closer to the actual release date for the Fifth Printing [which, my advance copy of arrived a few days ago, and it looks _tremendous_ compared to previous printings -- woohoo!]
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post Jan 16 2008, 10:21 PM
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Any further update(s) on this issue Adam?
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post Apr 10 2008, 10:21 PM
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Anything further on PDF book updates?
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post May 28 2008, 04:31 PM
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PDF book updates? Still nothing eh?
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post May 28 2008, 04:59 PM
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I'm guessing it's a matter of priorities. I, for one, would rather have, say, Unwired available sooner than a book I already have that contains errata I also already have.

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post May 28 2008, 05:21 PM
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With that reasoning, there will never be an updated PDF. If that's the case, let's just say it and move on.
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post May 28 2008, 05:34 PM
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There will be an updated PDF. As I mentioned in another thread recently, I just brought on a couple more freelance layout people to help take some of the load off me, and that should buy me time to work on the "little things" that keep falling through the cracks.
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post May 28 2008, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE (Adam @ Jan 11 2008, 10:18 PM) *
We still have to work out exactly how this situation will be solved, but it will be solved [or a bunch of duct tape will be used]

I'm currently at home, which is near Possum Lodge.

I will take a detour if needed to get some Duct Tape if needed! Performing a Redneck Ninja Covert-Op against Red-Green would be interesting!

Love to see his security system!
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post May 28 2008, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE (Adam @ May 28 2008, 11:34 AM) *
There will be an updated PDF. As I mentioned in another thread recently, I just brought on a couple more freelance layout people to help take some of the load off me, and that should buy me time to work on the "little things" that keep falling through the cracks.

Most excellent news, O Lord! =)
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post May 31 2008, 05:30 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ May 28 2008, 02:32 PM) *
I'm currently at home, which is near Possum Lodge.

I will take a detour if needed to get some Duct Tape if needed! Performing a Redneck Ninja Covert-Op against Red-Green would be interesting!

Love to see his security system!


Oh god. Red could thwart just about any Shadowrunning team, because they'd never be able to figure out how his security system works. The man is a lot closer to a Deadlands Mad Scientist then a comparably sane Shadowrun character. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spin.gif)
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post May 31 2008, 05:38 AM
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He'd just use Commanding Voice and Enthralling Performance. The team would just sit there laughing at all his sort-of-funny shenanigans until they starved to death!
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post Jun 1 2008, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE (Larme @ May 31 2008, 01:38 AM) *
He'd just use Commanding Voice and Enthralling Performance. The team would just sit there laughing at all his sort-of-funny shenanigans until they starved to death!

and of course, if that fails, well...

quando omni flunkus moritati, right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

imagine Moose as a troll though...
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post Jun 3 2008, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ May 28 2008, 02:32 PM) *
I'm currently at home, which is near Possum Lodge.

I will take a detour if needed to get some Duct Tape if needed! Performing a Redneck Ninja Covert-Op against Red-Green would be interesting!

Love to see his security system!


You are amazing CanRay.

(I never expected to see a Red-Green reference on Dumpshock.)
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post Jun 3 2008, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE (DMK @ May 31 2008, 12:30 AM) *
Oh god. Red could thwart just about any Shadowrunning team, because they'd never be able to figure out how his security system works. The man is a lot closer to a Deadlands Mad Scientist then a comparably sane Shadowrun character. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spin.gif)

Hense the use of Redneck Ninjas!

BTW, I'm also a Deadlands GM. Haven't run in a bit, however...
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post Dec 11 2008, 04:35 PM
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I have the original SR4 PDF. Has it ever been updated? Has the print edition ever been updated? When? What is the latest update?

Do either of these products (the print edition or ebook) have an upcoming update?
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post Dec 11 2008, 04:56 PM
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The current printing of Shadowrun, Fourth Edition is the Sixth Printing; both the Fifth and Sixth Printing are from Catalyst Game Labs, and they're identical in content to each other, and updated with corrections compared to the FanPro printings.

However, the PDF is not updated to the Fifth/Sixth printing, and due to ongoing legal stuff with WizKids/Topps, we have no ETA on when it will be. Same with the Street Magic PDF, and any other PDFs originally released when FanPro had the Shadowrun license.

I apologize for any inconvenience; our hands are tied in this matter.
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Malachi
post Dec 11 2008, 05:30 PM
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Can you sidestep it? Can owners of the FanPro PDF purchase the Catalyst one at a discount?
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post Dec 11 2008, 05:48 PM
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last time this came up, i'm pretty sure the indication was that it's something of a legal grey area, at best, to publish an update to a book that was published by another company. because catalyst purchased the rights to publish the shadowrun RPG, they can produce as many new books as they want, it's just when it comes to updating the old fanpro stuff that it turns into a legal quagmire.
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post Dec 11 2008, 06:23 PM
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Wow; that was a fast response.

Thank you Adam for the complete answer. That is precisely the information I couldn't find on the web.

It is not an inconvenience to me at all. I hope it didn't sound like I was complaining. Godspeed in your efforts.
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post Dec 11 2008, 11:24 PM
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Just to be clear here, there is no Catalyst SR4 PDF available for purchase? It's only the old FanPro 1.3 version?
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post Dec 12 2008, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE (Adam @ Dec 11 2008, 09:56 AM) *
However, the PDF is not updated to the Fifth/Sixth printing, and due to ongoing legal stuff with WizKids/Topps, we have no ETA on when it will be. Same with the Street Magic PDF, and any other PDFs originally released when FanPro had the Shadowrun license.

Not even a correction to the weapons tables on p.308-309?

Also, when are these changes going to make it into errata? I have been waiting a while. On the same subject, approximately when can we be expecting errata for Augmentation or Unwired?
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post Dec 12 2008, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE (coolgrafix @ Dec 11 2008, 07:24 PM) *
Just to be clear here, there is no Catalyst SR4 PDF available for purchase? It's only the old FanPro 1.3 version?

Correct.
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