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 Cybered athlete being banned from play |
 Jan 14 2008, 01:53 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 458 Joined: 28-March 05 From: NA/UCAS/IN/ Member No.: 7,246  |
Yeah, I know it ain't technically cyber, but it still hits close to the mark.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,322486,00.html |
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Jan 14 2008, 02:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 932 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 1,042 |
The historic issue here is that after testing the running blades, Dr. Gert-Peter Brueggemann determined that they gave Pistorius an advantage of over thirty percent at sprinting.
He's saying that the artificial limb performs better than the natural limb. |
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Jan 14 2008, 03:11 PM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
Does it surprise you that engineering can produce better than that which biology does? I, for one, welcome our new cyberzombie overlords ....
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Jan 14 2008, 03:54 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 458 Joined: 28-March 05 From: NA/UCAS/IN/ Member No.: 7,246 |
We have the technology. We can rebuild him. Stronger. Faster. ..."
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Jan 14 2008, 03:57 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
*grabs apollo and shakes him* WHERE IS THAT QUOTE FROM?
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Jan 14 2008, 04:35 PM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
It's from the 6 Million Dollar Man 70's TV show. |
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Jan 14 2008, 05:28 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
FINALLY somebody who is able to answer me that friggin question <.< . .
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Jan 14 2008, 05:36 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
What he should do is buy a front row ticket to the Olympics right by the starting line. And then, when the race starts, he should just jump onto the track and start running. They might not win a medal, but it isn't about medals, it's about humiliating all of the able-bodied athletes on international television.
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Jan 14 2008, 06:32 PM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
That's a great idea.... :D ...of course I'll be in the next lane over on a motorbike. ;) |
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Jan 14 2008, 06:38 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 |
This is in Beijing. I think they just shoot people who try to smuggle motorbikes into these events.... ;)
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Jan 14 2008, 06:49 PM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 8,705 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
The argument as I understand it is that this technology gives the 'handicapped' runner an unfair advantage, and that the Olympics are about athlete vs. athlete, not technology vs. technology.
Which, of course, is bunk. When every biker gets to use the same $50,000 racer as the Americans, Canadians, etc., then technology is no longer a factor. When every country has the same sports schools as the Germans, Russians, etc., then technology is not a part of the equation. Until then, the Olympic system is designed to reward the rich countries that can afford to maintain professional-grade 'amateurs', and maintain a hegemonic ideology that says we are all the same. This guy's artificial legs are no different from aerodynamic bicycles and state-of-the-art training facilities. Except for the fact that the Olympic movement can't maintain the communal lie in the presence of technology as obvious as that at the end of his legs. |
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Jan 14 2008, 07:15 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
So the Olympics are an insidious front for The Red Menace which serves only to corrupt and undermine our capitalist ideologies in preparation for the global proletariat revolution? :D
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Jan 14 2008, 07:49 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
You should have asked sooner. |
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Jan 14 2008, 07:51 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Damn those Kenyan long distance runners and their state-of-the-art training facilities.
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Jan 14 2008, 07:58 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 11-September 07 From: Saeder-Krupp Rhine-Ruhr Regional HQ Member No.: 13,215 |
Advantage of thirty percent in what? Never throw around percentages without the context that they belong into. In this case, it's a thirty percent advantage in energy costs, ie, the athlete can run and/or sprint with (significantly, as it turns out) less effort than a normal person. Not very surprising, considering his limbs have been engineered to work as running limbs first and foremost (with the side effect that it is essentially impossible to stand still while wearing them -- he'd topple over). |
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Jan 14 2008, 08:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 932 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 1,042 |
Yes, I understand that they perform better in one limited application. But it's better than earlier models. What will next year's model be like?
The history of prosthetics until now has been of artificial limbs that were inferior to the natural in just about every way. |
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Jan 14 2008, 08:23 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Kenya doesn't need state-of-the-art training facilities; they have state-of-the-art tall skinny black guys. Tall skinny black guys have an unfair mechanical advantage over other runners. The US's with our SOTA training facilities, excell in women's gymnastics, in which 12-year-olds who look like 9-year-olds perform absurdly dangerous artistic routines on SOTA equipment. |
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Jan 14 2008, 08:43 PM
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The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 |
More likely. |
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Jan 14 2008, 08:45 PM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
Ouch, now I feel even older since I knew the answer...
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Jan 14 2008, 08:50 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Exceptional height is not all that big of a deal in distance running, although it is of great advantage in sprinting. Source (one of many) In fact, one of, if not the world's greatest distance runners (incidentally from Kenya), is well below average height, at approximately 5'4" (160-164cm, depending on source). |
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Jan 14 2008, 08:53 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Is he black and skinny? |
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Jan 14 2008, 08:53 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I was quite surprised by the question, and am extremely curious as to who else (other than Stahlseele) didn't know the answer. :eek: |
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Jan 14 2008, 08:55 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Sure is, but he isn't tall, so doesn't fit your 'unfair mechanical advantage' criteria. :P ;) Oops ... I just realized that I didn't actually name the athlete to whom I was referring. Mea culpa. The runner is, of course, Haile Gebrselassie. |
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Jan 14 2008, 09:40 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Black and skinny are both mechanical advantages. :grinbig: |
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Jan 14 2008, 09:45 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,269 Joined: 18-September 06 Member No.: 9,421 |
I'm 23 and I knew where that quote came from. You don't need to feel too old.
Chris |
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