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 Jan 14 2008, 09:56 PM
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The ShadowComedian  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525  |
oh, i actually know the series/films(who DOESN'T?) . . i just seem to have missed the part with the Quote again and again O.o
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Jan 14 2008, 10:48 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
isn't that in the opening credits or something? i mean, i always just assumed it was actually kinda like how at the start of A-Team they'd talk about how the A-Team came to exist. |
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Jan 14 2008, 11:09 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 11-September 07 From: Saeder-Krupp Rhine-Ruhr Regional HQ Member No.: 13,215 |
Chalk it up to dubs dropping the intro narrations on nearly all 80s shows, leaving us AGS-based people somewhat deficient in the pop-cultural reference department unless we somehow happened upon them at a later date.
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Jan 14 2008, 11:30 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
yeah, kinda like that . . as far as i found out, that phrase is used exactly ONCE in the whole slwe of movies/episodes aired over here . . namely the one where they decide to fix him up . .
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Jan 14 2008, 11:47 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
You still made us feel old when you asked the question... *sob* :( relating to the topic kinda in regards to the kenyan runners: I think they did mention another advantage for the kenyan runners is the altitude that they live when they come down to our altitudes they have an advantage in running. There was also an analysis on the folks living in the Andean mountains, but the natives lived so high that their blood flow became a detriment, too much of a good thing scenario. I don't know where I heard this from, it was years ago from some bio class or article. eh. |
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Jan 15 2008, 12:02 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,416 Joined: 4-March 06 From: Albuquerque Member No.: 8,334 |
It's actually true. Working out and practicing at higher altitudes makes you more capable (generally) when dropping to a lower altitude. Your body is so used to working with less oxygen that when you get closer to sea level where there's more oxygen, your body gets all manner of happy and is able to perform beyond where it normally does.
IRL I live at about 5300 ft above sea level. I've gone to locations near sea level in Texas and Georgia and such and been much better at running and doing any other physical activities without issue. The reverse is also true. Train for your whole life in a low-level environment then come up where I live and try to run. Fast ticket to exhaustion, I've heard. I know it's that way when I climb the mountain right next to where I live. 10k feet in height is all manner of hard to breath (moreso if you're out of shape, that's for sure). |
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Jan 15 2008, 12:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 573 Joined: 17-September 07 Member No.: 13,319 |
A Google search for the phrase ""we can rebuild him" yields references to the TV show in responses #1 through #4. Stahseele, if you've ever run an SR4 character who used the Browse program for the Data Search action, perhaps you might try the same in real life.
Not only do I know lines from TV shows from the 1970s, I also know lines from English plays in the 1600s, and a few lines from the Aeneid; does that make me really old? Anyways, the idea that the Olympics reward turning people into single-purpose machines was attributed to Alexander the Great in one of Mary Renault's books; this guy takes that a step further. Here's a question: at what point of artificial-limb functionality will a few people voluntarily choose to cut off their ordinary, fully functional legs, in order to replace them? If this guy gets to race in the Olympics, will others choose to get leg replacements? I feel reluctant to have my legs cut off and replaced. I would consider trading my current myopic eyes for implanted techno-eyes with 20/20 vision, IR vision and a recorder, but it would still take overcoming a LOT of reluctance. |
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Jan 15 2008, 12:09 AM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
I'll chop off my left leg the moment that I can do so without losing any functions, most importantly the ability to feel.
*Edit* But I'd never enter a race... :cyber: |
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Jan 15 2008, 12:34 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,416 Joined: 4-March 06 From: Albuquerque Member No.: 8,334 |
I'd opt for major re-work on my back, if given the option. Post surgery pains would be better than the typical back pain I deal with. Maybe some low-level muscle replacement or tailored bioware muscle therapy or something would work for me.
Maybe even replace my lower arms so I never get tendonitis or carpal tunnel again. :-) |
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Jan 15 2008, 12:42 AM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
That point has done passed. There is actually some controversy about elective amputations. Most hospitals won't perform them, so people who want amputations resort to messy and dangerous home medical practice with such implements as chainsaws and shotguns, often killing themselves in the process. Of course, such individuals aren't trying to enhance athletic performance. They simply don't want their limbs. |
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Jan 15 2008, 12:44 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Once every episode. ;) |
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Jan 15 2008, 12:45 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Sure, but that's neither an unfair mechanical advantage nor a state-of-the-art training facility, which was my point. |
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Jan 15 2008, 01:52 AM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 8,705 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
In reference the example of the decidedly techno-disadvantaged Kenyans, two points come to mind.
1) The Kenyans, without any mechanical help, have advantages from their cultural history, genetics and their environment (the last two are directly related). Without technical / financial help, other nations may never produce someone to beat them. That's the way the Olympics were meant to work, even if it meant that Kenyans would be renowned throughout time as master long-distance runners. In the U.S., Apaches were similarly renowned for running, for similar reasons. Other nations/groups throw money at the problem to simulate Kenyan conditions (or simply go to a place like Kenya), or to find other advantages to offset the natural ones. 2) Kenya produces good endurance athletes, primarily runners. Nations with mega-bucks to spend on equipment and training facilities and techniques win gold in track/swimming/skiiing/throwing/wrestling/jumping/boxing/.....etc., etc., etc., without any regard to natural advantages of their region. This often appears in the form of equipment or access to training facilities that others cannot hope to have. The Olympics reward this behaviour with medals and prestige, which is why they spend the money in the first place. |
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Jan 15 2008, 05:51 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 458 Joined: 28-March 05 From: NA/UCAS/IN/ Member No.: 7,246 |
Sorry I didn't answer your question, Stahlseele, but I went to work just after I posted it. I just figured everyone knew it, I hadn't counted on our Euro pals missing out.
As far as elective limb replacement, that isn't my cup of tea. Hell, I can't even use eyedrops, and forget about contact lenses. I can't deal with anything messing with my eyes. Now, if they want to talk about "beer belly removal", well, I could go for that. |
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Jan 15 2008, 07:34 AM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,928 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
Have you tried chiropractic? I was having continual back pain, so bad it hurt unless I was laying down and staying still. The situation progressed so that I needed an excuse from a medical authority for work. I noticed the medical authority included chiropractors. Everything I had ever heard about them was that it was quackery, but if I got the excuse I could care less. Long story short - it actually relieved my pain. I was pissed that the medical doctors I had seen for the problem did not suggest the chiropractor. I learned that the SOP for doing my job was about the worst things a person could do to their back. I learned a few other things, too. When I first scheduled an appointment, they asked about things totally unrelated to my back, like digestive problems for example. Every time I went in for an adjustment and a various therapy (I must admit the therapy did not seem to work for me, but I may have discontinued it too quick), they would ask about any problems or pain. I usually blew it off, thinking how is cracking my neck going to cure constipation, but one day I mentioned my thumb was sore. I would get similar pain a couple times a week and it seemed to me to be fatigue related. But the chiropractor felt along my elbow and shoulder, then popped something (it has been a long time so I do not remember exactly.) No more pain. After that, I told them about every little thing. That crap job, and its phased out health coverage are long gone. If I ever could afford to go to a chiropractor on a regular basis, I would find one that worked for me and visit as often as possible. If someone had told me the pain I endured for years could be gone, I would have jumped on the chiropractic bandwagon long before I did. |
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Jan 15 2008, 07:42 AM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,928 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
Shadowtech, page 36.
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 Jan 15 2008, 07:46 AM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,928 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
You bet! It would cost big time to reconstruct the environment, especially when adding the lions and cheetahs that provide adequate motivation. |
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Jan 15 2008, 07:49 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
But that quote is not quite correct. It should read ...
:D |
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Jan 15 2008, 07:55 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,416 Joined: 4-March 06 From: Albuquerque Member No.: 8,334 |
Yep. Every time I've seen a chiropractor, they've actually hurt me (and not the good "Ow!... wait, that feels better" kinda way). I have however had a decent amount of success with a massage therapist I used to use. I've not gone back in a long time though, partly due to finances, partly because I tend to fill up my schedules. It's livable, and only sometimes causes me problems functioning. I know it could be a *lot* worse, so I'm thankful that it isn't. Come to think of it, I should have money enough to set up more sessions again soon, so maybe I can go back to having a painless time for awhile again. We'll see how life likes that idea, huh? Hehe |
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Jan 16 2008, 06:55 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 458 Joined: 28-March 05 From: NA/UCAS/IN/ Member No.: 7,246 |
I have to admit here, I never actually saw the first episode, just the snippets at the beginning of the credits. And it's probably been a good 20 years since I've even seen that. The Bigfoot episode was great though. |
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Jan 16 2008, 07:07 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Funnily enough, although it's been forever since I saw an episode of Six Million Dollar Man, that specific episode is always the one that sticks in my mind as well. |
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Jan 17 2008, 06:51 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 458 Joined: 28-March 05 From: NA/UCAS/IN/ Member No.: 7,246 |
Well, Bigfoot was a big deal back then. It seems to have mostly faded by now though. Besides, other than another bionic person, what else actually was a challenge for him?
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Jan 17 2008, 07:18 AM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
You are correct. Its call Chronic Altitude Illness (very creative, right?). It has to do with a phenomenon called diffusion limitation which basically means that the blood is moving through the capillaries in your lungs so fast that your RBCs don't have enough time to fully load up on oxygen (since the atmospheric O2 level is so low). In response people actually produce so many red blood cells that their blood gets too thick. [ Spoiler ]
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Jan 17 2008, 05:23 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,206 Joined: 9-July 06 From: Fresno, CA Member No.: 8,856 |
I'm pretty curious, can you cite a source for this? |
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Jan 17 2008, 05:34 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
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