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post Jan 17 2008, 05:48 PM
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Light-framed people make better distance runners. It's a straight mechanical advantage, and has nothing to do with your skin color.

Anyway, you think Kid Stealth, I mean, prosthetic legs are impressive? I wonder how long it will be until the Olympics are going to pass a ruling on nanotechnology.
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post Jan 17 2008, 07:23 PM
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Here's a question: at what point of artificial-limb functionality will a few people voluntarily choose to cut off their ordinary, fully functional legs, in order to replace them? If this guy gets to race in the Olympics, will others choose to get leg replacements?


That point has done passed. There is actually some controversy about elective amputations. Most hospitals won't perform them, so people who want amputations resort to messy and dangerous home medical practice with such implements as chainsaws and shotguns, often killing themselves in the process.

Of course, such individuals aren't trying to enhance athletic performance. They simply don't want their limbs.

I'm pretty curious, can you cite a source for this?

That article seems to not include why that point is passed.

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That point has done passed.


Somehow BIID makes elective amputation a closed subject? I don't understand.
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post Jan 17 2008, 07:39 PM
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I think he is saying that we have already reached the point where elective amputation has entered into our social consciousness because there are already people who are willing to do it.

It should be noted however that apotemnophiliacs (people with BIID) don't want their limb to be replaced with a more functional prosthesis. The whole point is they feel like they should be amputees, so its not really the same thing. It will be different when rational people without any mental illness (as I believe apotemnophilia is) willingly choose to undergo amputation to gain the benefits of an improved cybernet limb.

And interestingly enough, one of the main activists for BIID is a psychoanalyst named Gregg Furth who is also an apotemnophiliac. He and Robert Smith (a Scottish surgeon who actually performed a few of these amputations before the NHS shut him down) wrote a book about it.

Oh, and if you're still curious Demerzel there is an interesting article about it.
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post Jan 17 2008, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE (Demerzel)
QUOTE (Moon-Hawk @ Jan 17 2008, 10:34 AM)
QUOTE (Demerzel @ Jan 17 2008, 12:23 PM)
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Here's a question: at what point of artificial-limb functionality will a few people voluntarily choose to cut off their ordinary, fully functional legs, in order to replace them? If this guy gets to race in the Olympics, will others choose to get leg replacements?


That point has done passed. There is actually some controversy about elective amputations. Most hospitals won't perform them, so people who want amputations resort to messy and dangerous home medical practice with such implements as chainsaws and shotguns, often killing themselves in the process.

Of course, such individuals aren't trying to enhance athletic performance. They simply don't want their limbs.

I'm pretty curious, can you cite a source for this?

That article seems to not include why that point is passed.

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That point has done passed.


Somehow BIID makes elective amputation a closed subject? I don't understand.

Because people are already getting elective amputations. Thus, the question of when people will begin to have elective amputations has already been answered; it was some time ago.
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post Jan 17 2008, 07:46 PM
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It happened out of this context however, so the issue of when will people start elective amputations in favor of atrificial limbs for an advantage in sports isn't answered by BIID.
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post Jan 18 2008, 06:04 AM
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Damn those Kenyan long distance runners and their state-of-the-art training facilities.

LOL. But you do have to wonder why you don't see those same guys dominating the long distance bike races. They clearly have the aerobic capacity to do so.
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