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post Jan 21 2008, 05:01 AM
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I am putting together a 2070 calander for my group and I was wondering what holidays should be on the 2070 calander, so please Dump Shockers start tossing your ideas my way.
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post Jan 21 2008, 05:44 AM
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Obviously, all the standard modern holidays, a day of remembrance for the Night of Rage, Dunkelzahn's day (the "assassination"), Ghost Dance Day (NAN especially), Secession day (in the numerous territories that seceded from the US). This is just what came to mind on the spot.
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post Jan 21 2008, 05:56 AM
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Do you think Mana Day (December 24th) would be celebrated separately, or combined with Christmas?
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post Jan 21 2008, 06:48 AM
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January 19th would be a welcome holiday in the CAS, as it is Robert E. Lee's birthday. It was still celebrated in the South until it was made into MLK day.
I've little doubt it would have received recognition soon after secession.
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post Jan 21 2008, 06:48 AM
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Unification/UCAS Day for the anniversary for what was left of the US and Canada joining together. Likewise Independence Day down in the CAS commemorating when they broke away.
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post Jan 21 2008, 05:00 PM
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Don't forget that in the very least all of the Megas at least, and probably most AA+, and possibly even the larger A+ corps will all have thier own holidays as well.

Of course I seriously doubt that anyone gets time off for holidays anymore anyways.
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post Jan 21 2008, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE (Ravor)
Don't forget that in the very least all of the Megas at least, and probably most AA+, and possibly even the larger A+ corps will all have thier own holidays as well.

Of course I seriously doubt that anyone gets time off for holidays anymore anyways.

Just because megacorps are money-grubbing soulless entities doesn't mean they don't realize that employees without holidays and breaks are unproductive. I'm sure holidays continue to satiate the masses in 2070 ;)
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post Jan 21 2008, 05:46 PM
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Yeah, with the amount of extra consumption they can get people to do by giving them reduced hours on Buttercup's Birthday, they'd be mad to make people work straight through it.

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post Jan 21 2008, 06:09 PM
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Naw, if a corp's wageslaves get uppity you either increase the levels of happy juice in the water cooler (Remember to dock their pay for the increased costs.) or reassign a couple to your research labs.

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post Jan 21 2008, 10:39 PM
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Oh come on, holiday = marketing opportunity. They would be falling all over to try and sell people various types of worthless crap. The fact this increases worker morale at the same time is just a bonus.
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post Jan 22 2008, 01:22 AM
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And I don't disagree that the corp's marketing departments would be in overdrive trying to sell as much junk as possible to the masses, where I disagree is that the corps would actually give their wageslaves time off during said holidays.
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post Jan 22 2008, 05:27 AM
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QUOTE (Ravor)
And I don't disagree that the corp's marketing departments would be in overdrive trying to sell as much junk as possible to the masses, where I disagree is that the corps would actually give their wageslaves time off during said holidays.

the part of disagreement with you is.
"why not?"
what does the corp have to lose by allowing the non service industry individuals time off in the holiday, or vacation time, sick days...for that matter?
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post Jan 22 2008, 04:29 PM
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You guys are getting a bit off of the subject.

Some holidays I feel are worth note...

UCAS-Oct.15th (2030) UCAS Declaration

DENVER-Sept. 1st St.Ghostwalker Day...Hopefully you can think of a better name. This date is the day that the astral rift from Duhky opened and ghostwalkers spirit came. Which lead to the independence of Denver.

YUCATAN-March 15th (2062) Earth or Nature day. This is the day that the great earthquakes and typhoons drove Aztechnology out of the Yucatan. While it would be a young holiday, it could be one that is just beginning to become widely celebrated throughout the Yucatan.
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post Jan 22 2008, 04:41 PM
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The corps aren't really capalist enities per say, if anything they more closely resemble a hybred between dark age fuedal society and pre-union labor sweat shops.
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post Jan 22 2008, 08:11 PM
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While I agree that corps are just as likely to make folks work on holidays as they are today, a day off or half day can be the difference between the awesome buying power of Christmas and the lackluster buying power of Arbor Day.
The trade off would be to schedule most holidays on the weekends, like Mother's Day.

But I think most holidays would come down from sanctioned government holidays before they are adopted by the corps, pending Corporate Court approval, of course.

More importantly, having a 2070 exclusive holiday can make for a pretty interesting run.

The NAN nations might celebrate Howling Cayote's birthday.
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post Jan 29 2008, 12:00 AM
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Ork History Month, a week in August to celebrate the venerable cultural heritage of this noble people.

Oshogatsu, the Japanese New Year is celebrated from January 1st to the 3rd. It's a time for the whole corporate family to reflect upon the triumphs of the past - and future, via festivals of food, dance and music.

Spring Festival - not to be out done, the Chinese take fifteen days to honor the coming of a new year, starting February 7th. Dating services call this two week spree "the silver platter" as propriety is dropped for the event and casual relationships become temporarily fashionable in even more conservative circles.

Carnival - need I say more?

The Day of the Dead, well, after the early tragedies following the appearance of shedim, this holiday has come back in fashion for most of the Americas. From October 31st to November 2nd, massive AR costume parties and astral events splatter the streets. Trying to out mask (or unmask) each other has become something of an event between top celebrities - just as trying to our honor the dead for spotlighted soothsayers is quite the spectacle.
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post Jan 29 2008, 07:29 AM
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I swear, the first time I read past this topic I thought the subtitle was "HERPES NEEDED."
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post Jan 29 2008, 03:58 PM
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I swear, the first time I read past this topic I thought the subtitle was "HERPES NEEDED."

Try Craig's List.
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post Jan 29 2008, 05:04 PM
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While not technically a holiday, the annual AR Awards are certainly a celebration to mark on the calendar! This behind-the-scenes backstabbing, bribery and blackmail extravaganza is so over-hyped and media saturated that almost everyone is sick to dulldome by the time they unroll the red staircase to the hovering Academy Castle. But this year's two most contentious nominees for "Best Reality" have really cranked up the promotions and bonus material to cometastical proportions:

Jennet de MediƩis (Ersatz!) and her horrifying remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers was considered the undeniable best experience by almost every critic since it's debut - despite allegedly inducing schizophrenia in a rash of users. And anyone who's played the chilling reality is sure to have a lifelong paranoia whenever they hear the words "two cream, two sugar." *shudders*

But Miracle Shooter co-designer Mark Thunderfist (Ares Entertainment) managed to squeak out his fun, feel-good instant-classic: Battle of the Bands, which seamlessly meshes the competitive violence of Shooter with pseudo-musical talent for an all-ages smash success.
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post Jan 30 2008, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE (Ravor @ Jan 21 2008, 08:22 PM)
And I don't disagree that the corp's marketing departments would be in overdrive trying to sell as much junk as possible to the masses, where I disagree is that the corps would actually give their wageslaves time off during said holidays.

Hilarious tendances to bold 'slaves' aside, the real problem is that picture of labour doesn't really match up with the setting. There are like, public servants and a military and small businesses and stuff. Clearly some people can just go get another job, otherwise how do people end up staffing government departments?

The other reason that job conditions are going to exist is that megas are billed as providing end to end services for their employees, and presumably they don't just take them out the back and shoot them come retirement age (may they do? Why would anyone work for them then?), and by 2070, the number of retirees will be quite high. Very possibly it may be higher than the number of workers employed by the megacorps depending on how you think the demographics will swing.

Does that sound like a familiar problem? It should, cause its the problem faced by Ford and General Motors today - and the reason its not facing Toyota is because Toyota has younger workers.

Younger workers are going to be a big thing to attract to stave off the death by pension fund - and given that people have job mobility, people are going to offer incentives to get them. And if you can get 4 weeks of paid leave as a newly minted graduate at Ares, but none at MCT, then you are probably going to take the first offer.

i've always thought the dystopic part of SR was the poor sinless crowding around the glowing bastions with the corp workers in it. And for them, I suspect holidays would be much the same as today, except with even more invasive marketing.

The marketing really would be invasive, as they can get you to log into their full simsense VR game battle of the band, which they might even offer you for free, then make you feel warm fuzzy thoughts about the artfully inserted product placements.
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post Jan 30 2008, 12:36 AM
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...in my corner of the SR world:

August 14th is Leela Groznek's Birthday: A National Holiday in Croatia
September 17th is Liberation Day: A National Holiday Croatia & Serbia
My 5th is Balkan Unity Day: celebrated in Croatia, Dalmatia, Serbia, and Slovenia (Ratification of the Balkan articles of Peace, 2065).
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post Jan 30 2008, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE (Cthulhudreams)
Hilarious tendances to bold 'slaves' aside, the real problem is that picture of labour doesn't really match up with the setting. There are like, public servants and a military and small businesses and stuff. Clearly some people can just go get another job, otherwise how do people end up staffing government departments?


*Shrugs* Of course people who haven't signed a corp employment contract with a buy-out clause (Which is set so high as to be impossible to ever meet.) hidden in the fine print can change jobs whenever they fragging please, but then again those people aren't wageslaves.


QUOTE (Cthulhudreams)
The other reason that job conditions are going to exist is that megas are billed as providing end to end services for their employees, and presumably they don't just take them out the back and shoot them come retirement age (may they do? Why would anyone work for them then?), and by 2070, the number of retirees will be quite high. Very possibly it may be higher than the number of workers employed by the megacorps depending on how you think the demographics will swing.


That is only really a problem if you assume that the quaint notion of retirement hasn't gone the way of the dodo for the average wageslave. Another option is that retirement still exists, but has been pushed back to an age which most people have no hope of achieving.


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Younger workers are going to be a big thing to attract to stave off the death by pension fund - and given that people have job mobility, people are going to offer incentives to get them. And if you can get 4 weeks of paid leave as a newly minted graduate at Ares, but none at MCT, then you are probably going to take the first offer.


IF people have job mobility then sure the employees are likely to have more power, provided that the threat of the corp simply hiring SINless isn't enough to keep them cowed.

Of course, if the average wageslave had job mobility then there would be no need for willing extractions to even take place and unwilling extractions would be a counterproductive move on the corp's part.


QUOTE (Cthulhudreams)
i've always thought the dystopic part of SR was the poor sinless crowding around the glowing bastions with the corp workers in it. And for them, I suspect holidays would be much the same as today, except with even more invasive marketing.


Naw, the true dystopic nature of the Sixth World is that the SINless hoards banging on the walls to the corp enclave have no idea that the wageslaves inside have no more hope for a better life then they do. Everyone is fragged, the only real difference is the the corpers have shinier prision cells than the SINless trash.
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post Jan 30 2008, 01:35 AM
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...I tried to get back to the original question...really... :grinbig:
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post Jan 30 2008, 01:36 AM
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QUOTE (Cthulhudreams)
The marketing really would be invasive, as they can get you to log into their full simsense VR game battle of the band, which they might even offer you for free, then make you feel warm fuzzy thoughts about the artfully inserted product placements.

Make sure you've got your anti-viral marketing software up-to-date.
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post Jan 30 2008, 01:39 AM
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Historically, slaves get days off.

And because you still have to pay wageslaves, giving them days off is a type of temporary downsizing. "Today is MCT Founders' Day. Take a week off."

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