Arsenal Qs, and typos, if you find any Options

[Glayvin34]

Just got Arsenal, and looks to awesome. Thought I might light up this thread so people can ask some questions if they're confused by anything in the book.

That being said, I just looked at the table on page 18 and it's not right, several of the values are in the wrong columns. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)
EDIT: Looking at it closely, the values are just shifted one column to the left.
EDITED AGAIN: Or, rather, the titles of the columns include "reach" which isn't applicable for Projectile Weapons, so they are shifted to the right. Either way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

This post has been edited by Redjack: Feb 2 2008, 08:55 PM

Reason for edit: Add sr4 icon

[bibliophile20]

I saw a few spelling errors here and there; after I'm done filling out forms, I'm planning on looking through again, so I'll post when I spot them.

EDIT:

The prices and availabilities for the Stickn'Shock and Hammerhead arrowheads on page 19 are missing, and the Hammerhead is missing on the tables in the back of the book.

Page 100: High Speed Commercial Transports should acronym out to HSCT, not HCST.

Page 73: "most street drugs have
A Power of 6." "A" should not be capitalized.

Page 39: Hardliner gloves: "A character wearing these using Unarmed Combat to attack." Instead of "using", it should be "uses".

[arathian]

The milspec armor enhancements table isn't in text, but it is in the tables section at the back. Not sure if that was intentional or not.

[Ryu]

The image for the Crest is called Vista

[knasser]

Two of the anthroform drones (the Otomo and the Tomino) are not included in the combined tables at the back of the book.

The typesetting is off on the text on the opening fiction sections (all of them). Words and characters get scrunched up without spaces between them making it hard to read. Not had this issue with any of the other PDF books. Can post a screenshot if this isn't a universal problem. PDF viewer is KPDF on Linux.

Seems like this thread is going to be a "mistake" thread. Maybe we should have a different one for more involved, actual questions?

-K.

[knasser]

The list of standard packages for drones from the core rule-book that they are assumed to have doesn't list armour as one of them. Is this correct? What would that mean for adding more armour to an existing core rulebook drone. Does the additional armour take up a slot or does it go on what's already there? If it takes up a separate slot and is considered as a separate category in some sense, is the maximum still 20 or can it go higher?

Completely confused,

-K.

[Cardul]

When are the Free Previews going to be up? (OK..So I will be ordering the PDF next friday...still..a preview would be nice!)

[knasser]

A radar sensor package is given, but I can't find any actual range for the radar to tell me how far it can perceive. The ultrawideband is okay as it's stated that it's the same as the system in Augmentation (assuming you have both books which I do), but the normal radar is presumably different?

Are we talking air traffic control here, or something in the hundreds of metres?

Thanks,

-K.

[arathian]

Firefight seems to only have 3 possible advantages. Or more precisely, one you can take twice and one you can take once. All the other martial arts have 4 total.

Edit: Kung Fu might only have 2 possible advantages. It is hard to tell from the way it is worded.

[Rotbart van Dain...]

..how long is the Victorinox Memory blade supposed to be to qualify for Range 1?

[walkir]

[Stahlseele]

[bibliophile20]

[Nerbert]

According to the 1.5 Errata, Flechette ammunition has +2DV +5AP, which is reflected in the back of Arsenal. How ever, all of the weapons that use flechette ammunition by default are listed as +2DV +2AP which is what the original SR4 was printed with.

Is this an oversight, or is there some subtlety to the rules that I'm not aware of?

[BookWyrm]

OK, where is the link to the Arsenal 1.5 Errata?

[hobgoblin]

http://shadowrun4.com/resources/index.shtml#errata

[Stahlseele]

Arsenal just came out, the erraty in question is BBB4th *g*
At least they are not like Game-Producers who release patches before releasing games x.x ...

[Shrike30]

(yes, i am editing this post as i find more)

The artwork for the Colt M24A3 Water Carbine lists it as the "Warrior 10 Water Carbine."

The Wildhuter does not list it's RC as being (1) but has a shock pad in it's description.

I think Ink Grenades are supposed to release a cloud of black ink, not a cloud of blank ink.

The "Seeker Heads" rocket/missile mod is listed in the mortar ammo section erroneously, right below "Seeker Rounds." It is also listed where it belongs, in the Rockets & Missiles section.

I'm not sure if it was thought of or not, but the Kusarigama's "sub-entries" for the two ends of the weapon could benefit from being tabbed over to the right once.

"As a standard rule of them, most street drugs have A Power of 6." "A Power" should probably not have the A capitalized, and I have a feeling that y'all meant "rule of thumb."

Is NoPaint popular with "intercity" gangs or inner-city gangs?

Oxygenated flourocarbons provide an Agility bonus?

It would have been nice to have the effects of Berserk listed somewhere in the book with the drugs, or even in the BBB alongside the other drug and chemical effects, rather than constantly being referred to the Bear totem section of the BBB to look up that one effect. It's kind of a non-intuitive place to look.

Pg 91: "Demolitions skill applies only if the character wants to actually work out how the quantity of explosives needed, as explained under..." Does this make no sense to anyone else?

The drones section has some grammatical issues that cause it to read as if it was written by a non-native speaker of English. It's got a lot of jarring errors.

Pg 101: "Some even fear that drones will developed personalities of their own take over the world - aka, "Frankenstein Fear." ... what?

The Smokecloud can apparently mimic weapons from small handouts to large assault cannons. Does it actually fire anything? I'm guessing no, which makes me wonder what the deal is with it containing high-velocity rounds (nothing comes out, so what does velocity have to do with anything?.

The Ares Heimdall's bold entry header lists it as the Ares Helmdall (or is it HeImdall?). It can apparently be equipped with "High Explosion" warheads.

The Dragonfly uses "vector trust propellers?" (I'm thinking "vectored thrust" might be more what you were going for)

The LEBD-1 is "capable of conduct a stunning electrical discharge through the cuffs?" A crime scene specialist can "jump into the drone to gives an on the spot appraisal of the situation, along with evidence recovery." Asides from the "give" typo, "along with evidence recovery" doesn't work grammatically in the sentence.

The Manservant-3 can "lock its arms and lift with its legs to obtain a higher lifting capability as a human?" Some are "also equipped with a shut down button built whose location is adjusted to fit the owner's desires?" Another advantage is "its capability of working around the clock?"

Under the Nimrod entry: "While the first aerial drones were fairly small, a rapid increase of size meant that the average aerial combat drone was too large for individual use." I have no clue what this sentence is trying to tell me... the Nimrod packs engines, fuel, sensors, two heavy weapons, and at body 4 is still too large to be man-packed, despite being a return to the "smaller size philosophy"... and the way it's written, doesn't work grammatically, either. "By launching a Nimrod, the LAV (pilot?) evens the odds and if nothing else gives it time to lose pursuers." Does the LAV give it time, or does the Nimrod? You can supposedly "prevent aerial piracy by having an aircraft carry Nimrods inside portable drone racks disguised as faux long range fuel tanks, deploying it to surprise attackers." To deploy "it" you'd carry "a Nimrod." As written, you'd deploy "them." You also don't usually disguise things as faux fuel tanks... you'd just disguise them as fuel tanks. And why are these drone racks portable?

The Beaver: "As agile and sturdier than the average metahuman..." I'm pretty sure "as" and "agile" should be swapped, to read "Agile as and sturdier than..." The last sentence in the fluff description, while clear in its meaning, is a run-on sentence that features nifty writing such as "he can turn the whole working squad around to blow the whole site sky-high"... it could use some tweaking.

The Tomino: "When traversing unstable surfaces, these models must take care to allow for the fact that they weigh in excess of 250 kilograms." Must the model, or the rigger living inside it, take care? Or is that a deliberate semantic choice?

This post has been edited by Shrike30: Jan 28 2008, 01:59 AM

[raverbane]

On page 109, the picture of what, I assume, is the Roadmaster is listed as a Citymaster.

Holy Judge Dread, Batman!!

[raverbane]

On pages 131 - 132

Amphibious Operation Upgrade (All, Groundcraft Only)
Level 1 says "using the vehicle's normal system of propulsion for a short journey in the water with Speed and Acceleration reduced to RATINGS APPROPRIATE TO THE ENVIROMENT AND VEHICLE"...

uhm... what does that mean, exactly?

[raverbane]

Amenities, page 131.

So, what kinda break on your High lifestyle cost do you get if you live in your GMC Everglades, converted with High Lifestyle Amenities?

[knasser]

[Glayvin34]

Deleted my post, I found what I thought missing.

[Shrike30]

Is the Thunderstruck supposed to halve armor (like the vehicular gauss weapons do) before it's AP modifier is figured in? If not, it doesn't really outperform the Barrett asides from edging it out in terms of range and being friggin' cool, and begins to lag noticeably behind if you load the Barrett with something like APDS ammunition.

[BookWyrm]