Shadowrun Master Movie List, Alphabetized even Options

[Fortune]

Also, it is banned in Australia.

Well, that made me click the linky. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[tisoz]

I don't think there is any controversy over the fact that Blind Fury is a modern western version of Zatoichi. The two are practically identical and the plot of Blind Fury is pretty much the same as the plot of Zatoichi Challenged. In fact, pretty much everything I can find in about Blind Fury makes this connection.

I was not speaking specifically about this example. Your citation of proof is really weak, though I will agree with the assertion.

Zatoichi is one of the longest running film series in Japan; I don't think that it is fair to call it obscure.

I have never been to japan and until it gets exported and shows up in the video aisle, I doubt a majority of US (or european) people are going to get a chance to see it. So what is your definition of obscure, or what would be a better word to describe it than obscure?

Baise-moi is either an orgy of anarchistic nihilism or an orgy of nihilistic anarchism, though I'm not sure which. And it's French. It's basically about a couple of downtrodden women who are fed up with their worthless crappy lives and go on a cross-country murder spree together. It's sort of like Thelma and Louise with unsimulated sex and a great deal more violence. And it's French. Also, it is banned in Australia.

With a title of Fuck Me, I wonder why? Also, following your link and learning a little about the film and its actors/actresses, where should we draw the line on what some consider porn? In the golden age of big budget porn, there were some epics and classics with SR themes. Should we include them. Most of them would probably have better name recognition than Fuck Me.

If you insist on having me add them to the list, at least present them in the proper cut & paste format of title followed by SRish elements that are examples for emulation.

I really have to wonder if you and your buddy do this just to yank my chain.

[mfb]

eh, you can get Zatoichi from Blockbuster. that said, you can also get a lot of awesome Korean films nobody's ever heard of from Blockbuster (you must acquire 2009: Lost Memories and Friend, if nothing else). there are a lot of people who've at least heard of Zatoichi... and there are also a lot of people who haven't.

[tisoz]

Ah, at last. A confirmation.

[hyzmarca]

I was not speaking specifically about this example. Your citation of proof is really weak, though I will agree with the assertion.


I have never been to japan and until it gets exported and shows up in the video aisle, I doubt a majority of US (or european) people are going to get a chance to see it. So what is your definition of obscure, or what would be a better word to describe it than obscure?

http://www.amazon.com/s/103-9162962-231825...=Mozilla-search
They've all been released in North America and Europe for some time now. Decades, actually. And new versions are released every now and then.

With a title of Fuck Me, I wonder why? Also, following your link and learning a little about the film and its actors/actresses, where should we draw the line on what some consider porn? In the golden age of big budget porn, there were some epics and classics with SR themes. Should we include them. Most of them would probably have better name recognition than Fuck Me.

I'd suggest that the difference between porn and not porn is that in not porn sex may be integral to the plot but in porn sex is the whole point of the movie. But, as porn goes, I think that there are some anime entries that are better adapted to SR than most golden age classics. Take, for example, La Blue Girl (Ninja magician adepts fighting life-draining sex demons).

If you insist on having me add them to the list, at least present them in the proper cut & paste format of title followed by SRish elements that are examples for emulation.

Zatoichi series [Blind sword adept/Mercenary criminal with a heart of gold]

Edit:

I really have to wonder if you and your buddy do this just to yank my chain.

I once did a search for banned movies ( Wikipedia has a nice list) and made an effort to obtain all of them that looked good, by hook or by crook. You can find some pretty good movies by looking for stuff that has been banned in modern Western democracies. I found both Baise-moi and Ken Park this way, among other movies.

[mfb]

I'd suggest that the difference between porn and not porn is that in not porn sex may be integral to the plot but in porn sex is the whole point of the movie.

there really should be more movies with awesome sex, where the awesome sex isn't the point of the movie.

haha, Iran's banned movie list is a riot. The Dark Crystal? really?

[Critias]

there's alot of names on the list that are extremely questionable, any chance you can add a parin behind them that states what aspects of the movie are shadowrunish?

Someone that likes Shadowrun also likes the movie, and said it was Shadowrunish on Dumpshock. Ta-da!

[tisoz]

there's alot of names on the list that are extremely questionable, any chance you can add a parin behind them that states what aspects of the movie are shadowrunish?

I would welcome others input for this. It should be obvious by now, I have not even heard of every movie on this list.

Wow, I just put in a request to my local library for a hold on "No Country for Old Men". There is a waiting list of over a hundred people. For perspective, the only time the I see the list go over a hundred is for a blockbuster hit, or a reaaally good chick flick. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Critias]

Well, No Country is up for like a gajillion awards and stuff. I'm not surprised it's pretty popular.

[tisoz]

I had not heard about it and saw that it Grossed 50 some million dollars, respectable, but no where near blockbuster.

[Critias]

Right, I think it's doing that "slow burn" sort of gig (like There Will Be Blood). One of those weird gigs where it's the critical acclaim that brings the dvd/rental sort of money, as opposed to a totally awesome run at the movie theaters bringing the financial success.

I know it's getting pimped hard for Oscars and crap, and the only mention of it I heard while it was still in theaters was a thread on Glocktalk where someone asked a gun question. So despite not being a smash hit on opening weekend or whatever, the fact it's getting all sorts of press as awards come rolling around doesn't surprise me.

[martindv]

Well, No Country is up for like a gajillion awards and stuff. I'm not surprised it's pretty popular.

Why? Save for the opbvious ones like Titanic and Braveheart, there has generally been a trend where there exists a giant disconnect between popular movies and what the academy and various guild deem as best picture winners. Since like the 80s.

[tisoz]

I wonder if we should annotate this movie list to include awards won? I think the Usual Suspects won an Oscar for best original screenplay, The Godfather and II both won for best picture (I think that is the only time a film and its sequel have done so).

Probably not, as I am sure someone will want to include every obscure award out there, like the winner of the North Podunk film revival for best performance by a dwarf doing voiceover in a foreign film for some film they love. "I swear, you couldn't even tell he was a dwarf, and he must be a genius as the translation was spot on." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sarcastic.gif)

[Wesley Street]

"Dude Where's My Car?"? "Legally Blonde"?!? Seriously? Oh man, this Shadowrun master movie list needs to be trimmed a bit. Of course, everyone's definition of what makes Shadowrun Shadowrun is different but to me it's a mash-up of near-future dystopian 80s cyberpunk, modern post-cyberpunk, and New Age Magic (spirits represent whatever you want them to, semi-scientific explanations for Awakened flora and fauna, no "gods" or "demons" like in D&D). There are many elements you can pull from many different films that are a part of the Shadowrun system and universe. But it's the concepts I just listed that are unique to Shadowrun. So using those criteria here's what I came up with in terms of a movie list along with what Shadowrun elements apply. Please note that these are only the films I've seen and I don't claim to be an expert... there are more out there.

Aeon Flux (bioware, "corporate" enclaves, high-tech gear)
AD Police (sprawls, cyborgs, police state, drones, corporate enclaves)
AI (sprawls, ecological destruction, drones)
Akira (sprawls, go-gangs, ecological destruction, police state, "Awakened" mutants)
Appleseed (cyborgs, big guns, sprawls, ecological destruction, drones)
Avalon (Matrix/VR, "ultraviolet" nodes, sprawls)
Banlieu 13/District B13 (sprawls, "El Infirnio"-style barrios, gangs, cynical politics)
Bladerunner (sprawls, ecological destruction, bioware [Replicants], class conflict, corporate enclaves, Japanese influence)
BubbleGum Crisis (sprawls, cyborgs, police state, drones, corporate enclaves)
Children of Men (sprawls, ecological destruction, police state, class conflict)
Clockwork Orange (sprawls, police state, go gangs, class conflict, science gone crazy)
Death Race 2000 (sprawls, blood sports, cynical politics, crazy vehicles)
Demolition Man (sprawls, police state, ecological destruction, corporate enclaves)
Equilibrium (sprawls, police state, ecological destruction, crazy pharmacology)
Escape From New York/LA (sprawls, police state, ecological destruction, gangs)
EXistenZ (VR/Matrix, "ultraviolet" nodes)
Final Fantasy (magic, ecological destruction, high-tech gear)
Ghost in the Shell (sprawls, cyborgs, ecological destruction, VR/Matrix)
Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence (sprawls, cyborgs, ecological destruction, VR/Matrix)
I Robot (sprawls, drones, high-tech gear)
Island, The (sprawls, bioware [clones], high-tech gear, corporate enclaves)
Johnny Mnemonic (shadowrunners, sprawls, cyberware, VR/Matrix, Japanese culture)
Lawnmower Man (VR/Matrix)
Mad Max series (ecological destruction, go gangs, crazy vehicles)
Matrix, The (VR/Matrix, AI, ultraviolet nodes, ecological destruction, sprawls)
Max Headroom (VR/Matrix, AI, sprawls, corporate enclaves, Japanese culture, media saturation)
Minority Report (bioware, crazy pharmacology, magic [psychics], sprawls, crazy vehicles, high-tech gear)
New Rose Hotel (shadowrunners, commlinks, Japanese culture)
Predator 2 (sprawls, ecological destruction, gangs)
Reign of Fire (ecological destruction, dragons in modern times)
Robocop (cyberware, corporate enclaves, high-tech gear, police state, media saturation)
Rollerball (original) (blood sports, corporate enclaves)
Running Man (blood sports, corporate enclaves, media saturation, sprawls, ecological destruction, cynical politics)
Silent Mobius [The most Shadowrun-y film I've ever seen... literally Bladeruner in Tokyo with magic] (magic, sprawls, cyborgs, flying cars)
Solarbabies (magic, ecological destruction, police state, blood sports)
Soylent Green (sprawls, class warfare, ecological destruction)
Strange Days (VR/Matrix, shadowrunners, AR, sprawls, class warfare, cynical politics)
Terminator, The series (sprawls, cyborgs, high-tech gear)
Tetsuo 2: The Iron Man (sprawls, cyborgs, bioware)
Ultraviolet (sprawls, Awakened people, high-tech gear, Asian influence)
Virtuosity (sprawls, VR/Matrix, AI, cyborgs, drones, police state, class warfare)

I welcome additions!

[Aaron]

I'd like to nominate Shoot Em Up for the list.

[martindv]

"Dude Where's My Car?"? "Legally Blonde"?!? Seriously?

Have you seen either of those movies?

First, there is a whole discussion about "Dude..." in another thread that makes a compelling argument. As for Legally Blonde, I'm going to guess it has something to do with Elle being an uber-Face.

[BFaolan]

Adding to Wesley Street's List (having just seen the movie last night)

Renaissance (sprawls, corporate influence, smartlinks, paid criminals, crazy pharmacology, shades of gray morality)

[hyzmarca]

Rise:Blood Hunter [Naked Lucy Lui kills vampires]

[tisoz]

I'd like to nominate Shoot Em Up for the list.

Can you list its Shadowrun elements? [action]

[martindv]

Renaissance (sprawls, corporate influence, smartlinks, paid criminals, crazy pharmacology, shades of gray morality)

I didn't much like that movie. It is actually why I am hesitant to watch any movie just because it's recommended for being a good SR movie.

But it is very much a Shadowrun movie.

[BFaolan]

I didn't much like that movie. It is actually why I am hesitant to watch any movie just because it's recommended for being a good SR movie.

But it is very much a Shadowrun movie.

My better half qualified it perfectly: it was good. Once. Never again.

[martindv]

I fell asleep watching the DVD. Twice.

But that's interesting. I thought the same thing about Mystic River. It was a great movie I hope I never see again.

[Critias]

There are several movies that are like that. Excellent films, that just aren't pleasant to watch.

[martindv]

Children of Men almost made me sick.

[Wesley Street]

Adding to Wesley Street's List (having just seen the movie last night)

Renaissance (sprawls, corporate influence, smartlinks, paid criminals, crazy pharmacology, shades of gray morality)

Oh that's EXCELLENT! The movie wasn't great but it's definitely got the look and feel. Good call (and I can't believe I forgot that one)! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)