Recruiting: Down in the Gutter - Second Phase, Life in Redmond's Newest Street Gang Options

[WinterRat1]

Oh you are soooooo leaving yourself open.

Like that comment didn't also? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Whipstitch]

After looking at a few pages of muscled male models for something that might have been Aziz, I have decided to go to the gym more.

Sheesh, now where do you find pictures of people who aren't hamming it up for the camera?

Even if I were tall, buff and super handsome there'd still be no way I could make it as a male model. There is absolutely no way I could grease up my hair and lift up the bottom of shirt to show off my abs all while maintaining that super serious "Come hither" face without bursting into laughter. Thanks to roughly 5 minutes looking for pics that might work for Cuervo I now completely understand why my sister used to get the giggles watching Victoria's Secret commercials.

[Slipshade]

Like that comment didn't also? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Shush! Vegas doesn't need your help. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Neuntöter]

funny, it only just now occurred to me that Will could be easily set up as an advocatus diaboli kind of character with the Adversary Mentor. To bad that Death has grown on me.

anyhow, i wondered if i could copy Shade's General Education Knowledgeskill for Will. And also if we are already supposed to finish up all the takes on the other Gangers and Gangs or if they are done as we actually meet them IC.

[Whipstitch]

I kinda envision Rat or any Mentor Spirit with a behavioral requirement as often playing devil's advocate. I mean, what good is having a li'l voice in your head if they don't disagree with you all the time?

Easily imagined scenario:

Cuervo's Internal Monologue: "Shit, mis hermanos are pinned down by that Raider with the SMG. If I sneak up on him though I can take him easy."
Rat: "Or maybe we can go get sandwiches. And not get shot. And come back later to strip the corpses."
Cuervo's Internal Monologue: "You're not helping."


* Added a picture and changed Cuervo's physical description to be more slimey pretty boy and less young warrior. Shouldn't really change anything though. Besides, I think this way rather fits his personality. Also made it clearer how my gear is accessorized.

[Neuntöter]

Death works for me.

*Chain-smoking Will*
Death:"You know, you should really quit those."
Will:"Why, will they be the death of me?" *smirks*
Death:"Awww, it won't be much fun if i give that away already, will it?"
Will: O_o *chokes on cigarette*

[Slipshade]

And also if we are already supposed to finish up all the takes on the other Gangers and Gangs or if they are done as we actually meet them IC.

Yes, you need to complete your Questions and takes before you start in the game. You are also expected to update your takes as your character evolves and interacts with everyone.

I did the takes for Baby from her point of view as if she had been in the gang for a few months and had time to interact with everyone. Not saying you need to do the same, but you do have to fill out all of your takes (gang members and other gangs) before you can start in IC.

[Eyeless Blond]

Well, what if you have no idea until you actually meet them? I mean, first impressions are everything in this sort of business.

[Slipshade]

Well, what if you have no idea until you actually meet them? I mean, first impressions are everything in this sort of business.

If your take changes after you meet someone then modify it at that point. Takes are not set in stone.

[Dantic]

Anyone taking a look at Twiggs for final again?

[Slipshade]

Anyone taking a look at Twiggs for final again?

Sorry Dantic I haven't yet. I am pushing a deadline at work this week and I have the In-Laws coming in on Friday. I have barely been able to keep up with you guys on this thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Whipstitch]

I'm finally done tinkering away for reals now, promise. For my own good I will now be stepping away from the wiki for the rest of the week. On the upside, I think I've got the wiki commands down pretty good now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/embarrassed.gif)

Went with a novacoke addiction as my final 5 point flaw instead of Astral Beacon (it just felt like too shady of a choice, even if it did give your opponents a bonus when assensing you for magical potential). Novacoke just made too much sense since the LoCoS specialized in it. I kinda wanted deepweed instead, but apparently the stuff is like 400 nuyen a hit, which is pretty ridiculous in terms of Barren's economics.

[Fresno Bob]

I put up a take for Baby, Cuervo, and Twiggs for those who are interested.

[Slipshade]

I put up a take for Baby, Cuervo, and Twiggs for those who are interested.

I'm always interested in peoples takes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[cREbralFIX]

I'm not sure what to do on the wiki...do you want Moe's info here in posts or somewhere else? I use the background questions on the other PC sheets.

[Vegas]

cREbralFIX

We're kinda waiting on you to show us more about Moe before we start building you pages on the wiki. You had mentioned last weekend your plans to work on him, but we hadn't seen anything from you since then.

Can you give us some more of his history/background and give us a better "feel" for the character?

Thanks!

[cREbralFIX]

Additional details on Moe:

[ Spoiler ]

BACKGROUND

Where and in what kind of environment did your character grow up?

Moe grew up in <some neighborhood that isn't good>. The neighborhood
was fairly poor for the decade and a half he lived there. His father
was always going on about how nice it used to be, before the "thug
culture" got ahold of "the youth". During his youth, there were no
schools that did much beyond babysit for working parents. Drugs and
petty crime seemed to be the primary modes of entertainment. Moe's
parents, Ed and Emily, taught Moe his lessons after the grocery
store's hours. Once he goblinized, though, they seemed to lose
interest in his education.

His father, a former soldier, then changed the "curriculum" to a more
fighting focus. Moe continues to train with him at least twice a
month in unarmed combat, knives, sticks, and guns.


What are your character's relations with their family? (Does your
character keep in touch? Where are they now?)

Good, though Moe is in a rebellious stage in his life. He "wants to
earn a livin'" and "get out there and do stuff". He joined the
military, but got kicked out for continued insubordination after two
and a half years. The reality was, he was bored. Getting told what
to do all the time by Corporals wasn't the problem; it was the
continue menial labor in the PX. Moe decided he could mop floors and
stock shelves in his father's store--and make more money. So much for
"adventure".

His father is disappointed that his son didn't cut it with the
military. However, he knows the military is not for everyone, and so
continues to train him in an attempt to generate interest in
*anything*.


Does your character have an ethnic background? (Is it relevant to
them?)

He's an ork, from an ork family.


APPEARANCE

What does your character look like?

Orky (TBD).

What does your character dress like?


Typical urban poor...jeans, shirt, light on the street bling.


What are your character's physical quirks?

Larger than average tusks.


SKILLS, ATTRIBUTES, RESOURCES

What did your character always want to be? (How did they go about
getting this job/position/ability/image? Did they succeed?)

He wanted to be a soldier, but not in the PX or on the road as a truck
driver. Driving a tank would hhave been cool, but he was so hung over
that he missed the entrance exam. After that, it was off to big rig
driving school. He did that for around six months, got bored, and
applied for logistics. The slot was assigned to him, and he ended up
working in the PX warehouse. YAAAAAAAAAWN. A few too many parties
over the course of the next year meant he was mustered out as "not
suited to military life."


Where and how did your character learn their Active and Knowledge Skills?

Moe got his general education through his parents. His education was
supplemented by the military. He learned logistics software and a
variety of warehouse operations. He drove large trucks transporting
military vehicles also. Though he really enjoyed the combat training,
the military kept putting him into support roles, regardless of his
applications.


Where and how did your character get their major equipment and 'ware?

Either from the family, military, or on his own.


Where and in what kind of place does your character currently live?

He lives with four roommates in a cheap apartment in a bad
neighborhood. His parents invited him to live in a studio apartment
over the store, but he declined ("Don' wanna ever work in a store
again.")


Who are your character's contacts? (How did they become contacts? Why
do they still talk to your character?)

TBD


Who are your character's enemies? (How did they become your
character's enemies?)

TBD


For Awakened characters, how did your character learn their magic? For
non-Awakened characters, how does your character feel about magic?

Moe is not Awakened as far as he knows. It would be cool to suddenly
find out he was a mage. Even better, a physical adept. Then he could
be a real soldier.


PERSONALITY

What are your character's personality quirks?

Moe can be pretty wary about trusting people and tends to look for
opportunties to verify what people say.

What are your character's and dislikes?

Bad beer, fat chicks, boring shit. Driving a truck for 15 hours
straight sucks. Working 16 hour days in a warehouse sucks worse.

Hanging out on the streets is boring too; drunk people don't make good
conversationalists.


What is your character's moral code?

Apparently, people suck and will screw you over as soon as possible.
The recruiter lied about the contract he was signing with the
military. His superiors would blame him for their mistakes or
cover-ups. Having learned that lesson, he doesn't really believe much
anyone says, except his family.

In a nutshell: don't let people take advantage of you and/or screw you
over. He's experimenting with retribution.


Does your character have personal beliefs?

Sure, but TBD.

What are your character's personal motivations?


Find something interesting to do, make a lot of money, and have fun.


RUNNING WITH THE GANG

Why does your character run with the gang?

He runs with the gang because one of his roommates introduced him and
he's unemployed. So far, he's made a few bucks here and there, which
is more than he made from any local employer.


When and how did your character join the gang?

TBD (how do these things go?)


How does your character contribute to the gang? What is his role; not
just in terms of how he/she makes money, but where does he/she fit in
the social hierarchy?

TBD

Ideas:

Drug dealing, strong arm, scams, B&E, gambling.

I need a list of "jobs".


What would make your character ever leave the gang?

If the leadership screwed him over.


How does your character feel about their life in the gutter as part of
a street gang? What is their view of the rest of the world?
(i.e. Non-gangers)

He comes from non-gangers, so he has a fairly positive attitude there.
So far, being in the gang has felt more like soldiering than when he
was in the military. So far he's been in a bunch of fights and broken
a few skulls. It's kinda cool, though standing on a street corner as
a lookout for the drug dealer kinda sucks.


If your character could have their ideal life outside of the gang,
describe what that ideal life would be.


Sit on the beach in France sipping margaritas.


What ambitions does your character have for the gang as a whole? What
ambitions does your character have for their place within the gang?

Just make a living, stay out of grocery stores, and have fun.


If your character is a recent addition from another gang, how does
your character feel about joining a new gang? If your character is not
a recent addition from another gang, how does your character feel
about the new arrivals to the gang?

TBD


How does your character view relationships within the gang, both
romantic and friendship? How does your character view relationships
outside the gang, both romantic and friendship?

He has several friends in the gang. They all "run" together.


What is your character's view of the other gangs in the area? (Note:
Wait until other gang info is up and available before answering this
question.)

TBD


What is your character's attitude towards/view of the gang as a
whole?

It's kinda fun, but there's boring shit too. Right now, he just wants
to make a few nuyen, have some fun, and crack a few skulls.


What is your character's view of each of his fellow gang members?
Answer for each gang member listed below. (Note: Cannot be completed
until our final roster is fleshed out. Update this as membership
roster changes or significant events occur. Specify events or reasons
that led to changes in perception. Do not delete prior perceptions,
just add what has changed and why.)


TBD

[Fresno Bob]

Do you think you could spoiler tag that to keep people from scrolling down? Or just put it on the wiki and link to it?

[Slipshade]

Spoiler would be good. He doesn't have a wiki page yet.

[Vegas]

Do you think you could spoiler tag that to keep people from scrolling down? Or just put it on the wiki and link to it?

He can't put it up on the wiki because he's not approved... not yet at least.

cREbralFIX

Can you toss that big background post behind spoiler tags pretty please? We'll still read it I promise. One thing of note as I was breezing through it on a first pass, some of the things you've made "TBD" are pretty important (Where he grew up, neighborhood, appearance) those will need to be fleshed out sooner as opposed to later.

I'll sit down and digest him tonight.

Dantic + Whip

You guys are also both on my radar to be point counted and first checked tonight too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Dantic]

2) Moe "<street name TBD>"

Ork

Age <Ork military age + 3> (17-19ish)

Unfortunately, he also tended be insubordinate and was mustered out of service after only two years past Boot Camp. It is for this reason he has a SIN, though the dishonorable discharge shows up on his record.

(No magic, no cyber, no weird stuff, not even really a bad attitude.)

The 30 questions BG isn't realy what the GM's are looking for here, speaking for myself and my char gen so-far, by all means I am no expert as to what is wanted here. That being said, You should probably flesh out your concept more, by posting here about "Moe" personality quirks, physical description, personal motovations (ex. Why he runs with a gang, what he gets out of gang life, is he a stone cold killer or just a survivor). Keep in mind these are gangers not just underpowered shadowruners, I had to keep reminding myself of that while I developed my character, even though I started my concept, with this in mind, as I was statting him, I fell into old habits of trying to "fit" the character into a role for the "team". Any Details you can think of, put it here, they will ask you for more detail continualy, so get as much in now as you can, and by all means, look at The Wiki Roster, to see what other members have for descriptions, and the Background Story. Some of the stories would be several pages of printed or written text. Hope this helps. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

[Dantic]

Dantic + Whip

You guys are also both on my radar to be point counted and first checked tonight too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Whoot, do a little dance, make a little love... or if you're Twiggs, love yourself, and get down tonight. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

[Slipshade]

The 30 questions BG isn't realy what the GM's are looking for here, speaking for myself and my char gen so-far, by all means I am no expert as to what is wanted here. That being said, You should probably flesh out your concept more, by posting here about "Moe" personality quirks, physical description, personal motovations (ex. Why he runs with a gang, what he gets out of gang life, is he a stone cold killer or just a survivor). Keep in mind these are gangers not just underpowered shadowruners, I had to keep reminding myself of that while I developed my character, even though I started my concept, with this in mind, as I was statting him, I fell into old habits of trying to "fit" the character into a role for the "team". Any Details you can think of, put it here, they will ask you for more detail continualy, so get as much in now as you can, and by all means, look at The Wiki Roster, to see what other members have for descriptions, and the Background Story. Some of the stories would be several pages of printed or written text. Hope this helps. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

Dantic - Yeah that is all true. We expect a lot of background and personality information.

I will be doing a follow up check on both yours and whips stats tomorrow. Though be ready to hear....we need you to flesh out <insert character name here>'s background a little more...or a lot more. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[WinterRat1]

Some of the stories would be several pages of printed or written text.

Red October from Shade's Journal and the opening of Black November are about 25 pages long, just to give you an idea of what we mean when we say 'thorough'. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(Don't worry, we don't expect your character BG's to be that long though. My point is simply that background matters a lot in this game, so any time you put into it up front is less time you have to put into it later. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) )

[Vegas]

Dantic + Whipstitch

Here's my first thoughts on a once-over on your characters (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Cuervo:
He's pretty much good to go. Stats and gear check fine and you've got the takes done for all the characters with enough info up to write anything about them and the background seems pretty solid.

Twiggs:
Stats check fine, takes are done. By my count (and yes I counted twice) you've got $400 more to spend in gear. My only concern is in parts of Twiggs' background. There are a lot of one-liner answers there that I would LOVE to see fleshed out to get a better feel for how Twiggs operates. Things like questions 8 and 9 about where he got his skills and gear... the possibilities of grand stories of just how he stole something out from right under the owner's nose and the like... How did he scrounge and steal his gear, it makes for an interesting read if there's more there. Same for his thoughts on Magic... he just think's it's "Wiz" and that's it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Other than that I think you guys are pretty good to go... pending a second look over by Slip and the final review when WR's ready and Dantic, you get the few things straightened out we'll get WR to give you the final once over too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thanks guys for all your work, it shows and we appreciate it!