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 Mar 17 2008, 04:09 PM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 62 Joined: 28-February 08 Member No.: 15,717  |
I read on the BBB that during character creation to begin play with a bounded spirit the max. services owed must be no more than the summoning skill.
Is this applicable to the bounded spirits during gameplay?, Max. services Owed=summoning Skill rating ? What about unbound spirits? |
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Mar 17 2008, 04:46 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
No such 'in-game' limit that I am aware of.
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Mar 17 2008, 04:58 PM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
Nor am I aware of a limit.
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Mar 17 2008, 09:46 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 62 Joined: 28-February 08 Member No.: 15,717 |
I did a cautious search before posting, nothing on the errata either.
I find some sort of "loophole" in this, however Im not sure about one thing: Situation: a Magician summon a spirit and dont bind it, therefore the spirit is unbound Question: Can u make the test again like if u were "re binding" it and get more task? Assuming summon a spirit only cost one complex, u might do this with a low lvl Force spirit and get lots of task; then u can easily sustain a spell for minutes even hours (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sarcastic.gif) |
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Mar 17 2008, 09:57 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 829 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 770 |
No - you only get additional services from binding.
There is no 'resummoning' without dismissing the spirit entirely, and summoning a new one from scratch. |
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Mar 17 2008, 10:36 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 62 Joined: 28-February 08 Member No.: 15,717 |
QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable @ Mar 17 2008, 06:57 PM)  No - you only get additional services from binding. There is no 'resummoning' without dismissing the spirit entirely, and summoning a new one from scratch. this make sense |
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Mar 17 2008, 11:16 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,069 Joined: 19-July 07 From: Oakland CA Member No.: 12,309 |
The real reason you shouldn't be able to "re-summon" is that it blows past a very important limiter on mages. By RAW how many services you can get on a spirit of a given force is on one roll is how much you can get done for free. If you did it that way you would summon a spirit have it and get 4 services. You use that to possess yourself, and conceal, guard, and movement the whole team. pretty scary right there. But if you could re-summon you could get the spirit to influence every guard you come across, by getting one net hit on a re-summoning test. Also you could get the spirit to attack every encounter without dropping the buffs. Image that rather than ever cast stun-ball you just resummon and have your spirit of man use it's actions to stun ball every round until a group of hostiles are down. To do that under RAW you would have to get 5 net hits to use all the buffs and have a task left over to order the attack. Also you would have to waist several rounds re-casting them.
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Mar 18 2008, 03:28 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 811 Joined: 30-January 07 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 10,845 |
QUOTE (Nefacio @ Mar 17 2008, 12:09 PM) I read on the BBB that during character creation to begin play with a bounded spirit the max. services owed must be no more than the summoning skill. Is this applicable to the bounded spirits during gameplay?, Max. services Owed=summoning Skill rating ? What about unbound spirits? You can only rebind spirits, not resummon. That said, how much money you got? Binding materials cost! Sprites on the other hand... |
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