Leonardo's Blackmailing Scheme, Which novel is this featured in? |
Leonardo's Blackmailing Scheme, Which novel is this featured in? |
Mar 31 2008, 12:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 714 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .nl Member No.: 116 |
I was wondering if anyone could recall the novel in which Leonardo blackmails the triple-A's. Is that Technobabel or Black Madonna? Can anyone give me the executive summary of that storyline? Thanks.
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Mar 31 2008, 12:54 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Black Madonna.
Basically, he hacked all matrix-relevant megacorps' core system, put an icon there that detailed his demands (vast amounts of money, lab equipment, blah) and left them to wonder what the hell happened. I think he also crashed their systems just because he could, but I might be mistaken. Raku called in favours with Michael Sutherland und had him investigate this mystery matrix attack and in the end negotiated with Leo to fund his esotheric research in exchange for first dibs on his technology, which they then brilliantly used to create Deus and lose enormous amounts of money. |
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Mar 31 2008, 12:57 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,173 Joined: 27-July 05 From: some backwater node Member No.: 7,520 |
Is it any good? I don't recall ever reading it, but I'm not sure right now.
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Mar 31 2008, 01:19 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
It's fairly good, as all the Sargent/Gascoige stuff is, if you don't mind the whole immortal elves plot arc. The end is fairly cheesy, though, and I personally am not the biggest fan of this whole templar knights/vatican child of christ persecution Dan Browne stuff. But that's personal preference,r eally. It's a solid work, surprising at times, and fun to read, nicely drawn characters.
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Mar 31 2008, 01:19 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Black Madonna is basically the davinchi code in Shadowrun Style *g*
But that's not the only book where it gets mentioned, i'm sure |
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Mar 31 2008, 01:29 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 714 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .nl Member No.: 116 |
Basically, he hacked all matrix-relevant megacorps' core system, put an icon there that detailed his demands (vast amounts of money, lab equipment, blah) and left them to wonder what the hell happened. I think he also crashed their systems just because he could, but I might be mistaken. Raku called in favours with Michael Sutherland und had him investigate this mystery matrix attack and in the end negotiated with Leo to fund his esotheric research in exchange for first dibs on his technology, which they then brilliantly used to create Deus and lose enormous amounts of money. Personally, I dislike the Immortal Elves, as well as the way magic is handled in Shadowrun, but I'm trying to find out more to get a complete picture of how the Renraku Arcology: Shutdown situation got started. It seems, partially, to start here. I vaguely remember that Leonardo had a tete-a-tete with Lofwyr near the end of the book. Any chance you can recall what that was about? |
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Mar 31 2008, 01:32 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
"Work for me or I'll eat you", maybe? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
Did Streak appear in this novel? |
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Mar 31 2008, 01:43 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
either in this one, or in the one with the SR Jack the Ripper Clone . .
and the RAS got more or less kick-started with the dodger in the sam verner trilogie when he accidentally created morgana i think . . |
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Mar 31 2008, 01:52 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE But that's not the only book where it gets mentioned, i'm sure For instance, in Walzer, Punks und Schwarzes Ice (The whole austrian new monarchy thing), for instance, and, moderated, in SoE (same story line), yes .... and Browne only stole a popular myth himself for that crappy book. QUOTE I vaguely remember that Leonardo had a tete-a-tete with Lofwyr near the end of the book. Any chance you can recall what that was about? Uhm, that was at the end of Technobabel, wasn't it? And it was about Loffy being pissed at Leo for ... meddling with him or something. QUOTE Did Streak appear in this novel? Yes, he had his first appearance there. QUOTE and the RAS got more or less kick-started with the dodger in the sam verner trilogie when he accidentally created morgana i think . . Sort of. Deus was created in a later book though, but yes, that's another seed of that story line. |
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Mar 31 2008, 01:56 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Streak is cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/love.gif)
I didn't care for the Dan Brown-esque plot, but really disliked that Leonardo was so obvious an IE and didn't even change his name over the centuries. And hey, this is not Earthdawn! Renaming doesn't erase your pattern! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Mar 31 2008, 02:11 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Me, I liked Streak, but liked Rani better.
QUOTE And hey, this is not Earthdawn! Renaming doesn't erase your pattern! Maybe someone ought tot ell him? Or he has this Geas (never change your name) or something, so he could work magic during the down cycle? whatever, really. Yes, he was a bit bluntly IE, but meh, I happen to kinda like the IE. Not much Leo, though, I'm more for the insane types like Aina, Alachia or Harley. |
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Mar 31 2008, 02:19 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
none of those are insane . . but they are all crazy!
aina has nightmares of her personal horror, alachia is a power-freak and a sucker for politics . . and har lea quinn ? . . yeah, he's crazy . . but at least he has a sense of humor like Streak *g* |
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Mar 31 2008, 02:20 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,009 Joined: 25-September 06 From: Paris, France Member No.: 9,466 |
Yes it's Da Vinci Code, only cooler because it has jesuits strike teams getting blown up by grenades and papal nuclear missiles. Other than that, as for many "Shadowrun" novel, it doesn't have much in common with Shadowrun, or at least my Shadowrun.
Also note that this novel went too far away for the line devs and a short story was written to destroy Leo's project and retcon the Vatican nuke story (and other elements). |
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Mar 31 2008, 02:21 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,173 Joined: 27-July 05 From: some backwater node Member No.: 7,520 |
A guy that accepts a quest to save the world from his memories of a dead and demented passion, which he once worshipped as it seems, is pure gold. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif)
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Mar 31 2008, 02:32 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
none of those are insane . . but they are all crazy! aina has nightmares of her personal horror, alachia is a power-freak and a sucker for politics . . and har lea quinn ? . . yeah, he's crazy . . but at least he has a sense of humor like Streak *g* Aina used to have sex with horrors on a regular basis. She also has at least one child with a horror (with an unspellable name that starts with Y), whom she does love. And she practices self-mutiliating blood magic as a hobby. Alachia had this really brilliant Blood Forest idea. Also, she's with Aina on blood magic. Harley is what you get when you have someone run about with a bipolar disorder without proper treatment for some 20.000 years. Like the Joker, only with magic and less interest in gaining wealth. But yeah, he does have a sense of humor. Edit: Aina for the first post, not Alachia. Stupid, distracted me. |
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Mar 31 2008, 03:35 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Alachia used to have sex with horrors on a regular basis. She also has at least one child with a horror (with an unspellable name that starts with Y), whom she does love. And she practices self-mutiliating blood magic as a hobby. Aina! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Hi there DV8. Long time, no see. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Mar 31 2008, 03:40 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Hey Deev.
I feel so redundant. |
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Mar 31 2008, 03:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 714 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .nl Member No.: 116 |
Hey everyone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I feel so redundant. Glad to see you're keeping up the self-loathing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Mar 31 2008, 04:00 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,328 Joined: 28-November 05 From: Zuerich Member No.: 8,014 |
I still do not get how anyone can hack all the core systems of all the megas at the same time, and can't just steal the measly 20 billions he wanted to exort.
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Mar 31 2008, 04:03 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,009 Joined: 25-September 06 From: Paris, France Member No.: 9,466 |
I guess that could be explained by his ego. He doesn't just want money, he also wants to show everyone how good he is.
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Mar 31 2008, 05:15 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,173 Joined: 27-July 05 From: some backwater node Member No.: 7,520 |
Leo is a gloater. He could have gained the money without stealing it from anyone, I guess, but that would be just to simple. And no one would have known how great he is.
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Mar 31 2008, 05:24 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Aina! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Hi there DV8. Long time, no see. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Damnit! Well, of course Aina. I shouldn't post when doing lots of other stuff un the side. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/indifferent.gif) |
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Mar 31 2008, 08:15 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I knew that you knew. I was just making sure that everyone else knew too, and figured I'd inform you that I knew, even though, as I said, I knew that you knew. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Mar 31 2008, 09:07 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Thanks for telling me, though you knew that I knew, and stuff. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Mar 31 2008, 11:10 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Me, I liked Streak, but liked Rani better. Maybe someone ought tot ell him? Or he has this Geas (never change your name) or something, so he could work magic during the down cycle? whatever, really. Yes, he was a bit bluntly IE, but meh, I happen to kinda like the IE. Not much Leo, though, I'm more for the insane types like Aina, Alachia or Harley. Agreed on most points (still like Streak better). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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