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post Mar 31 2008, 12:51 PM
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I was wondering if anyone could recall the novel in which Leonardo blackmails the triple-A's. Is that Technobabel or Black Madonna? Can anyone give me the executive summary of that storyline? Thanks.
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post Mar 31 2008, 12:54 PM
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Black Madonna.

Basically, he hacked all matrix-relevant megacorps' core system, put an icon there that detailed his demands (vast amounts of money, lab equipment, blah) and left them to wonder what the hell happened. I think he also crashed their systems just because he could, but I might be mistaken.

Raku called in favours with Michael Sutherland und had him investigate this mystery matrix attack and in the end negotiated with Leo to fund his esotheric research in exchange for first dibs on his technology, which they then brilliantly used to create Deus and lose enormous amounts of money.
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post Mar 31 2008, 12:57 PM
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Is it any good? I don't recall ever reading it, but I'm not sure right now.
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post Mar 31 2008, 01:19 PM
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It's fairly good, as all the Sargent/Gascoige stuff is, if you don't mind the whole immortal elves plot arc. The end is fairly cheesy, though, and I personally am not the biggest fan of this whole templar knights/vatican child of christ persecution Dan Browne stuff. But that's personal preference,r eally. It's a solid work, surprising at times, and fun to read, nicely drawn characters.
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post Mar 31 2008, 01:19 PM
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Black Madonna is basically the davinchi code in Shadowrun Style *g*
But that's not the only book where it gets mentioned, i'm sure
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post Mar 31 2008, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 31 2008, 02:54 PM) *
Basically, he hacked all matrix-relevant megacorps' core system, put an icon there that detailed his demands (vast amounts of money, lab equipment, blah) and left them to wonder what the hell happened. I think he also crashed their systems just because he could, but I might be mistaken.

Raku called in favours with Michael Sutherland und had him investigate this mystery matrix attack and in the end negotiated with Leo to fund his esotheric research in exchange for first dibs on his technology, which they then brilliantly used to create Deus and lose enormous amounts of money.

Personally, I dislike the Immortal Elves, as well as the way magic is handled in Shadowrun, but I'm trying to find out more to get a complete picture of how the Renraku Arcology: Shutdown situation got started. It seems, partially, to start here. I vaguely remember that Leonardo had a tete-a-tete with Lofwyr near the end of the book. Any chance you can recall what that was about?
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post Mar 31 2008, 01:32 PM
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"Work for me or I'll eat you", maybe? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

Did Streak appear in this novel?
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post Mar 31 2008, 01:43 PM
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either in this one, or in the one with the SR Jack the Ripper Clone . .
and the RAS got more or less kick-started with the dodger in the sam verner trilogie when he accidentally created morgana i think . .
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post Mar 31 2008, 01:52 PM
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But that's not the only book where it gets mentioned, i'm sure

For instance, in Walzer, Punks und Schwarzes Ice (The whole austrian new monarchy thing), for instance, and, moderated, in SoE (same story line), yes .... and Browne only stole a popular myth himself for that crappy book.

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I vaguely remember that Leonardo had a tete-a-tete with Lofwyr near the end of the book. Any chance you can recall what that was about?

Uhm, that was at the end of Technobabel, wasn't it? And it was about Loffy being pissed at Leo for ... meddling with him or something.

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Did Streak appear in this novel?

Yes, he had his first appearance there.

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and the RAS got more or less kick-started with the dodger in the sam verner trilogie when he accidentally created morgana i think . .

Sort of. Deus was created in a later book though, but yes, that's another seed of that story line.
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post Mar 31 2008, 01:56 PM
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Streak is cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/love.gif)

I didn't care for the Dan Brown-esque plot, but really disliked that Leonardo was so obvious an IE and didn't even change his name over the centuries. And hey, this is not Earthdawn! Renaming doesn't erase your pattern! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Mar 31 2008, 02:11 PM
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Me, I liked Streak, but liked Rani better.

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And hey, this is not Earthdawn! Renaming doesn't erase your pattern!

Maybe someone ought tot ell him? Or he has this Geas (never change your name) or something, so he could work magic during the down cycle? whatever, really. Yes, he was a bit bluntly IE, but meh, I happen to kinda like the IE. Not much Leo, though, I'm more for the insane types like Aina, Alachia or Harley.
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post Mar 31 2008, 02:19 PM
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none of those are insane . . but they are all crazy!
aina has nightmares of her personal horror,
alachia is a power-freak and a sucker for politics . .
and har lea quinn ? . . yeah, he's crazy . . but at least he has a sense of humor like Streak *g*
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post Mar 31 2008, 02:20 PM
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Yes it's Da Vinci Code, only cooler because it has jesuits strike teams getting blown up by grenades and papal nuclear missiles. Other than that, as for many "Shadowrun" novel, it doesn't have much in common with Shadowrun, or at least my Shadowrun.

Also note that this novel went too far away for the line devs and a short story was written to destroy Leo's project and retcon the Vatican nuke story (and other elements).
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post Mar 31 2008, 02:21 PM
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A guy that accepts a quest to save the world from his memories of a dead and demented passion, which he once worshipped as it seems, is pure gold. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif)
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post Mar 31 2008, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 31 2008, 03:19 PM) *
none of those are insane . . but they are all crazy!
aina has nightmares of her personal horror,
alachia is a power-freak and a sucker for politics . .
and har lea quinn ? . . yeah, he's crazy . . but at least he has a sense of humor like Streak *g*

Aina used to have sex with horrors on a regular basis. She also has at least one child with a horror (with an unspellable name that starts with Y), whom she does love. And she practices self-mutiliating blood magic as a hobby.

Alachia had this really brilliant Blood Forest idea. Also, she's with Aina on blood magic.

Harley is what you get when you have someone run about with a bipolar disorder without proper treatment for some 20.000 years. Like the Joker, only with magic and less interest in gaining wealth. But yeah, he does have a sense of humor.

Edit: Aina for the first post, not Alachia. Stupid, distracted me.
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post Mar 31 2008, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 1 2008, 01:32 AM) *
Alachia used to have sex with horrors on a regular basis. She also has at least one child with a horror (with an unspellable name that starts with Y), whom she does love. And she practices self-mutiliating blood magic as a hobby.


Aina! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Hi there DV8. Long time, no see. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 31 2008, 03:40 PM
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Hey Deev.

I feel so redundant.
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post Mar 31 2008, 03:43 PM
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Hey everyone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE (Ancient History @ Mar 31 2008, 05:40 PM) *
I feel so redundant.

Glad to see you're keeping up the self-loathing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 31 2008, 04:00 PM
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I still do not get how anyone can hack all the core systems of all the megas at the same time, and can't just steal the measly 20 billions he wanted to exort.
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post Mar 31 2008, 04:03 PM
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I guess that could be explained by his ego. He doesn't just want money, he also wants to show everyone how good he is.
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post Mar 31 2008, 05:15 PM
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Leo is a gloater. He could have gained the money without stealing it from anyone, I guess, but that would be just to simple. And no one would have known how great he is.
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post Mar 31 2008, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (Fortune @ Mar 31 2008, 05:35 PM) *
Aina! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Hi there DV8. Long time, no see. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Damnit! Well, of course Aina. I shouldn't post when doing lots of other stuff un the side. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/indifferent.gif)
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post Mar 31 2008, 08:15 PM
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I knew that you knew. I was just making sure that everyone else knew too, and figured I'd inform you that I knew, even though, as I said, I knew that you knew. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 31 2008, 09:07 PM
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Thanks for telling me, though you knew that I knew, and stuff. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 31 2008, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 31 2008, 04:11 PM) *
Me, I liked Streak, but liked Rani better.


Maybe someone ought tot ell him? Or he has this Geas (never change your name) or something, so he could work magic during the down cycle? whatever, really. Yes, he was a bit bluntly IE, but meh, I happen to kinda like the IE. Not much Leo, though, I'm more for the insane types like Aina, Alachia or Harley.


Agreed on most points (still like Streak better). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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