 Dragon PC poll, As has been requested... |
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  Apr 2 2008, 09:02 PM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,300 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648  |
QUOTE (Moon-Hawk @ Apr 2 2008, 07:20 PM)  If everyone's just going to say "is good", "is bad", or "is a joke" we should just make a poll. Okay, here we go. As you might have read, CGL has just previewed rules for dragon PCs : http://www.catalystgamelabs.com/download/p...ers_preview.pdf This is where you can post what you think of them. I deliberately restricted the number of available answers to not get into lenghty " the rules aren't that bad, but would only work in a 600 BP game" stuff. |
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Apr 2 2008, 09:10 PM
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Grand Master of Run-Fu Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178 |
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Apr 2 2008, 09:12 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,300 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648 |
Dammit, how do i add this poll?
Closing the form won't help, not closing it won't help either...i'll take a look in the faq. Please hang on further... |
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Apr 2 2008, 09:28 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
i swear, if they plan on adding that to RC, they damn well add AI's to unwired!
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Apr 2 2008, 09:30 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
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Apr 2 2008, 09:31 PM
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Project Terminus: Soul Hunters Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 6-November 03 From: Casselberry, Florida U.S.A. Member No.: 5,798 |
I think they already said unwired has AI's and there was mention of PC AI's to go with the dragons in RC.
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Apr 2 2008, 09:34 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,300 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648 |
Finally, here we go.
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Apr 2 2008, 09:37 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
QUOTE (Casazil @ Apr 2 2008, 11:31 PM) I think they already said unwired has AI's and there was mention of PC AI's to go with the dragons in RC. hmm, i guess i should go back and look at the transcript from the latest talk... |
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Apr 3 2008, 12:20 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,182 Joined: 5-December 07 From: Lower UCAS, along the border Member No.: 14,507 |
No option for, ehhh, not really sure?
I mean, rules for dragons, I can live with that. I did advocate getting rules for AIs, for at the very least an NPC. I'm thinking the same deal with these here dragons. I mean, to my inexperienced eyes they look okay, but I don't think that I would allow it unless it was either a long running game, I knew I could depend on the PC not to be cheeseball, or I was running a convention game. In other words, I just don't know. I like more meta-variants, but dragons just inspire that, 'wait, what?' response from me. |
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Apr 3 2008, 12:25 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 236 Joined: 17-October 07 Member No.: 13,735 |
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Apr 3 2008, 12:43 AM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...ahh, in looking at the date of the posting, I think I may be in error about this being a joke. (See link above)
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Apr 3 2008, 02:17 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,653 Joined: 22-January 08 Member No.: 15,430 |
Hehe, it looks pretty evenly split between like and hate... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smokin.gif)
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Apr 3 2008, 03:44 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,159 Joined: 12-April 07 From: Ork Underground Member No.: 11,440 |
Great and Blessed Bast's Third Breast~~~~~~ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)
Munchkin players are gaining ground in SR4 it seems to me.*shakes head in absolute wonder and bewilderment* *Sighs*another house ruled away "feature" of SR4 along with TM's. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) Time to break out the Frank Trollman Possessed Troll Adept using a Bow that does 20P+ and moves faster than the Flash. Begin the Chant "Monty Monty Monty Hall lets make a deal!!!" If they WASTE efforts on this, then the previous statements by them are mute. Where is Dr. Funk, he will be having great fun, better than the cyber penis rants/discussions. Dragons do not play in my games, my players even getting close to one, they all break out in a cold sweat and look for a bug out. I play Dragons and IE's, the like Old School, something you talk about in private places but look over your shoulder alot, and hope they do not hear and come to see why you spoke their name. WMS |
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Apr 3 2008, 04:03 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,188 Joined: 9-February 08 From: Boiling Springs Member No.: 15,665 |
QUOTE (WearzManySkins @ Apr 2 2008, 10:44 PM) *Sighs*another house ruled away "feature" of SR4 along with TM's. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) What's wrong with Technomancers? I thought the people on this forum have said that TM suck as compared to a good hacker (the hacker can do more than just hack computers). QUOTE (WearzManySkins @ Apr 2 2008, 10:44 PM) Dragons do not play in my games, my players even getting close to one, they all break out in a cold sweat and look for a bug out. I play Dragons and IE's, the like Old School, something you talk about in private places but look over your shoulder alot, and hope they do not hear and come to see why you spoke their name. WMS Then your players don't have enough heavy firepower. Dragons are tough, but a party that's ANYWHERE near tough enough to think about taking on a dragon needs an assault cannon for EVERY member of the party (even the mages =^.^=). |
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Apr 3 2008, 04:04 AM
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Now all I have to do is convince my GM that I should be allowed to play one. I mean come on, the Eastern Dragon costs 325 BP. I can barely buy anything else... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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Apr 3 2008, 04:12 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,159 Joined: 12-April 07 From: Ork Underground Member No.: 11,440 |
QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Apr 2 2008, 11:03 PM) What's wrong with Technomancers? I thought the people on this forum have said that TM suck as compared to a good hacker (the hacker can do more than just hack computers). Then your players don't have enough heavy firepower. Dragons are tough, but a party that's ANYWHERE near tough enough to think about taking on a dragon needs an assault cannon for EVERY member of the party (even the mages =^.^=). Why? well others here have house ruled them away for their reasons also. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) Sorry Dragons being played or fought in a game, to me is Uber Mega Munchkin Monty Hall game, I gave up that level of mega power gaming over 20 years ago, was in the long term self defeating cycle of bigger badder etc. In my game PA's would be inadequate to the task of attempting to inflict harm on a Dragon, maybe the main gun of a Stone Wall Jackson MBT, if some how it got with in point blank range with out being uber magicked away to nowhere. To each their own, one day they may learn. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) WMS |
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Apr 3 2008, 04:25 AM
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QUOTE (WearzManySkins @ Apr 2 2008, 09:12 PM) Why? well others here have house ruled them away for their reasons also. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) Sorry Dragons being played or fought in a game, to me is Uber Mega Munchkin Monty Hall game, I gave up that level of mega power gaming over 20 years ago, was in the long term self defeating cycle of bigger badder etc. In my game PA's would be inadequate to the task of attempting to inflict harm on a Dragon, maybe the main gun of a Stone Wall Jackson MBT, if some how it got with in point blank range with out being uber magicked away to nowhere. To each their own, one day they may learn. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) WMS That's fair. However, although I was joking about trying to play one, I think calling it a waste is an overstatement. If people want to play a dragon then the rules being made to allow them to is not a waste. I understand that you won't be using it, but that doesn't mean no one will. |
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Apr 3 2008, 04:27 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 609 Joined: 13-August 07 Member No.: 12,615 |
I suppose I'm in the minority here. I don't consider the possibility of dragon PCs as a bad thing. But I've always been a fluff lover. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Whatever DID happen to the good Doctor? |
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Apr 3 2008, 04:48 AM
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QUOTE (Zhan Shi @ Apr 2 2008, 09:27 PM) I suppose I'm in the minority here. I don't consider the possibility of dragon PCs as a bad thing. But I've always been a fluff lover. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Whatever DID happen to the good Doctor? After playing around with the idea in the character creator I don't see it as all that bad either. I mean you don't have a lot of points to work with in the beginning so all you really have is super strength and a recognizable face. Ok that's not entirely true. You also have some nifty powers, but your skills are going to be lacking and your equipment won't be much better at first, especially if you want to be sustaining a shapechange spell. |
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Apr 3 2008, 04:55 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 458 Joined: 28-March 05 From: NA/UCAS/IN/ Member No.: 7,246 |
For myself, I thought the rules were well written, but no way in Hell would I allow one of these into my game. I've seen in other games and gaming systems where new races really had way too big an advantage over more standard races.
My case in point was gm'ing D+D and my friend's wife wanted to play an alaghi (yeti-like thing). The whole rest of the 1st level party got its' butts kicked by a bear, but she went claw to claw with it and won with hardly a scratch. And I've had other horror tales from D+D and new players coming in, trying to bring their old gm's faulty knowledge of the game with them. A 1st level wizard with a Displacer Beast familiar, for instance. Anyway, back on topic. Nice rules option, but not in my game, sorry. Looking forward to seeing more of the Runners' Companion though. |
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Apr 3 2008, 05:20 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
QUOTE (Zhan Shi @ Apr 3 2008, 03:27 PM) Whatever DID happen to the good Doctor? He has been unwell as of late, and is taking a hiatus. |
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Apr 3 2008, 05:20 AM
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Deus Absconditus Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 |
Yeah, every bone in my body says this is a joke.
That 1% that says it isn't is convinced that all the devs have been huffing paint. So yeah, definitely a joke. |
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Apr 3 2008, 06:17 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 118 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Roseville, California Member No.: 15,668 |
I'm all for it, as I simply see no reason for it to not be allowed.
If, through experience, I find it to be bothersome, I'll talk to my players then, and outlaw it. |
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Apr 3 2008, 08:50 AM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
It's a shame you can't see how the votes in the separate categories are tied together. I voted that the rules appeared well done (though play-testing would be a must and it would vary massively according to play style), but I also voted that there is no way I would allow this in my game. Got to say that I really wasn't expecting dragon PC rules.
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Apr 3 2008, 08:58 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 823 |
QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Apr 2 2008, 03:02 PM) Okay, here we go. As you might have read, CGL has just previewed rules for dragon PCs : http://www.catalystgamelabs.com/download/p...ers_preview.pdf This is where you can post what you think of them. I deliberately restricted the number of available answers to not get into lenghty " the rules aren't that bad, but would only work in a 600 BP game" stuff. Yet another reason I'm glad I'm sticking to SR3. |
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