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post Apr 13 2008, 09:05 PM
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As if Shadowrun didn't have enough Daka already. Juju shooters, huh? I am kicking around the idea of a sniper-mage who's rifle is a sustaining foci for the spell 'Analyze Device', +6 dice to shooting pool nothing to sniff your nose at. I like the idea for anchoring a spell to the bullet. Sure it costs small kine karma, but that bodes to illustrate his professional dedication to the kill very well (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Unfortunately having a spirit posses your weapon doesn't help much other then giving you 2 extra simple (Or 1 complex) action for shooting in one round (If you are trying to burst fire I would rule no wide bursts as the gun cannot be moved by the spirit, only fired). Get yourself a good SA sniper rifle with ample recoil compensation (At least 4 points). Once you get the target in your sights you pop two bullets into him, then the spirit possessing the gun pops two more bullets into him the same turn. You could also spend your two simple actions aiming, and have the spirit fire off two shots out in the same turn that you aimed. If the +2 dice is really worth it.
I think that works... Sound good to you people?

(Reference pg 102 of street magic)
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post Apr 13 2008, 09:10 PM
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I don't think the aim should count if the gun is firing at the same time. It kind of throws aim off.
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post Apr 13 2008, 09:29 PM
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well, as far as i understood that, it would not REALLY be happening at the same time . .
he'd aim the weapon for the spirit and the spirit shoots, kinda like you aim your gun for the smart link and the smartlink shoots for you . . or the other way around *g*

oh and SD? O.o
there is no such thing as enough dakka!
there's only open fire and reload, the two gods of Juju Pete, the Orky Psyonic Shoota-Boy *g*
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post Apr 13 2008, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE (Screamin Demon @ Apr 13 2008, 04:05 PM) *
As if Shadowrun didn't have enough Daka already. Juju shooters, huh? I am kicking around the idea of a sniper-mage who's rifle is a sustaining foci for the spell 'Analyze Device', +6 dice to shooting pool nothing to sniff your nose at. I like the idea for anchoring a spell to the bullet. Sure it costs small kine karma, but that bodes to illustrate his professional dedication to the kill very well (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


hmm. Anchored Deathtouch spell designed to work only against a specific person. "a bullet with your name on it" so to speak.
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post Apr 14 2008, 01:29 AM
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In one of the game's I am playing in, the mage's ranged weapon is a rocket launcher. His melee is a Force 4 Weapon Foci rocket launcher...
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post Apr 14 2008, 03:44 PM
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Interesting idea...this may give me some ideas on my current campaign im running "borrowing" some things from Final Fantasy 7 (Waits to be mobbed and killed by the rest of dump shock for saying that).


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post Apr 14 2008, 03:47 PM
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*shrugs* Gun-Blades are totally fair game in a System that now Allows Battle-Tech Mechs and Power-Armor . .
wasn't there the thing about the anchor having to be at least that and that big and not being moveable because the spell would dissipate?
but i admit, the Rocket-Launcher is cool . . especially, since rockets are more or less big enough for such things and can be filled with other magical things ^^
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post Apr 14 2008, 03:53 PM
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If the taser idea works (I say it would as long as the cords are not disconnnected) would a grapple gun work too? Less damage, but a lot longer range for attacking those spirits. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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post Apr 14 2008, 04:32 PM
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what i find even worse in the idea of the taser and the grapple gun being able to do such things . . imagine you being on the well isolated and and another mage or yourself shooting lightning into the connecting wires/rope . . eh voila, you're now your own high-voltage-landline o.O
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post Apr 14 2008, 04:46 PM
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post Apr 14 2008, 05:12 PM
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*snickers* turnabout is fair game ^^
dumpshock gives anybody even more bad ideas, players and GM's equaly ^^
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post Apr 14 2008, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 14 2008, 10:12 AM) *
*snickers* turnabout is fair game ^^
dumpshock gives anybody even more bad ideas, players and GM's equaly ^^


Very true well Dumpshock, Video Games and movies... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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post Apr 15 2008, 01:17 AM
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I haven't followed the thread silliness for a while, but is there anything that prevents a spell/power focus from actually being a gun?

Say, the custom grips or the frame of the Ruger Superwarhawk revolver...

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post Apr 15 2008, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE (Siege @ Apr 15 2008, 11:17 AM) *
I haven't followed the thread silliness for a while, but is there anything that prevents a spell/power focus from actually being a gun?


Nope, there is nothing preventing this at all. Pretty much anything can be a Focus, as long as you take into account the OR during the Enchanting process.
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post Apr 15 2008, 03:42 AM
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Be aware of the rule of thumb "Never enchant anything bigger than your head." Which with Augmentation received the annotation "Don't enchant your head or anyone else's either."
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post Apr 15 2008, 03:45 AM
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QUOTE (Ancient History @ Apr 14 2008, 11:42 PM) *
Be aware of the rule of thumb "Never enchant anything bigger than your head." Which with Augmentation received the annotation "Don't enchant your head or anyone else's either."


This gives the the greatest idea ever: Cyberskill Spellcasting focus; Specific Spell Mana Bolt.

"I can kill you with my mind... I mean with my skull!"
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post Apr 15 2008, 04:21 AM
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QUOTE (Chibu @ Apr 14 2008, 10:45 PM) *
This gives the the greatest idea ever: Cyberskill Spellcasting focus; Specific Spell Mana Bolt.

"I can kill you with my mind... I mean with my skull!"


Power Focus in the form of a Encephelon case (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Apr 15 2008, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE (Chibu @ Apr 13 2008, 09:10 PM) *
I don't think the aim should count if the gun is firing at the same time. It kind of throws aim off.


Yah, that factor is represented in SR with recoil and recoil compensation. Make sure you have at least RC 3-4 and you should have no problem. Assuming that the weapon is SA. A BF/FA weapon...? Stack RC up as high as you can and you can technically FA fire twice that turn. As the movable mount is technically part of the gun, your spirit would then be able to move the gun on it's own as well.

Have the spirit possess a mounted minigun (Or Autocannon) and unleash a dizzying 10 short bursts in a single initiative pass!
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post Apr 15 2008, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE (Chibu @ Apr 13 2008, 09:10 PM) *
I don't think the aim should count if the gun is firing at the same time. It kind of throws aim off.


Yah, that factor is represented in SR with recoil and recoil compensation. Make sure you have at least RC 3-4 and you should have no problem. Assuming that the weapon is SA. A BF/FA weapon...? Stack RC up as high as you can and you can technically FA fire twice that turn. As the movable mount is technically part of the gun, your spirit would then be able to move the gun on it's own as well.

Have the spirit possess a mounted minigun (Or Autocannon) and unleash a dizzying 10 short bursts in a single initiative pass!
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post Apr 15 2008, 10:03 PM
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To hell with that! Weapon Focus cyberskull!
Maneuver: Head Butt of Cleaving
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post Apr 15 2008, 10:24 PM
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Ok Great form spirit with Endowment. Clip full of just enough foliage on/in the bullet to be endowed with Energy Aura. Any thoughts on viability? How you resolve that?
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post Apr 16 2008, 01:39 AM
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QUOTE (DocTaotsu @ Apr 15 2008, 11:03 PM) *
To hell with that! Weapon Focus cyberskull!
Maneuver: Head Butt of Cleaving


I thought your butt was already cleft...

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post Apr 16 2008, 09:12 AM
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Well it was either that or "Head-butt of Sundering"

Seriously... headbutt isn't a word is it?
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post Apr 16 2008, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE (DocTaotsu @ Apr 16 2008, 04:12 AM) *
Well it was either that or "Head-butt of Sundering"

Seriously... headbutt isn't a word is it?

Headbutt. Sorry Doc (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Apr 16 2008, 12:55 PM
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I do not bow to wikipedia for wether or not a word is a word.

I bow only to Webster, and Webster says nay... the conjoining of head and butt does not yield the single headbutt.
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