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[masterofm]

Look even if it is a joke all of you who wanted dragons and all that jazz have a few pages of stuff to use. USE IT and create pc dragons in your settings and then watch as they just roll over pretty much everything they want to. You want it? It's right there, and with a bit of minor tweaking you can pull it off. Really not all that hard considering the stats and descriptions for the other races have paragraphs devoted to them.

If you want it do it. Why should people be pissed just because it was a joke. You can still use it. I personally think that it is too much of a power creep in a game like this, but hell I'm sure people wrote up dragons and wanted to play them in the SR setting years before this prank was even dreamed up.

If someone handed an apple to me while I was starving I would be happy. If someone threw an apple at me as hard as they could I wouldn't be as happy, but I would still eat the apple. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spin.gif)

[Larme]

I think it would have been all ok if they'd just posted a few days later confirming and explaining the joke. It would have been funny for everyone at that point. But after waiting two weeks until many of us were convinced the long delay made it real, then it was just a troll. I like what they did with the rules, I like how they showed that their system is flexible enough to handle even crazy things like dragons. But it would have been nice if they'd presented it as a wacky fun idea instead of as a troll.

[Kyoto Kid]

And area jammers. And, um, things that are really smelly....I guess. And wet dogs. Which is sort of a combination of explosive ordnance (no i, KK), and something really smelly.

...I totally agree on the wet dogs.

...oh and several spell checkers say the 'i' is correct.

[swirler]

Dictionary.com to the rescue!!
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or·di·nance [awr-dn-uhns]
noun
1. an authoritative rule or law; a decree or command.
2. a public injunction or regulation: a city ordinance against excessive horn blowing.
3. something believed to have been ordained, as by a deity or destiny.

ord·nance [awrd-nuhns]
noun
1. cannon or artillery.
2. military weapons with their equipment, ammunition, etc.
3. the branch of an army that procures, stores, and issues, weapons, munitions, and combat vehicles and maintains arsenals for their development and testing.

[Athanatos]

Personally, as I've stated in a previous post that might not have been this thread, I think there should be rules for it. I myself would like the ability to custom build a Dragon using BP's and Karma and have a rough idea of what it's difficulty would be. I would also, being a severe Dragon(And elf) Fanboy(not that seriously) like to be able to develope a Draconic Character even if I didn't go the full Burninator way. I wouldn't expect to play a full In-Your-Face Dragon, but a Dragon that might've just reached adult-hood in the recent decades would be nice. It's also possible that a number of Dragons in the Adolescent Wyvern state also slept through the 5th Age and then Cucooned when the awakened in the "Current" Age.

Mostly as I stated before it would most likely have to be for a Special game, or atleast be only Available when it was kept on the par with other characters allowed in a game. I would derive much more enjoyment from building a Draconic Char from a lowly Just Achieved Adulthood to a Veteran ShadowRunner Adult Dragon.

Final Point I would like to see this as a "House Rule", as in Player/GM Created build, Racial Option. I ask myself what would Fist, Frank, Hyz, and AH do with it? (If I forgot someone I apologize, but I have read SO many posts I can't always remember who brought up All the many interesting Ideas!)

[Moon-Hawk]

...I totally agree on the wet dogs.

...oh and several spell checkers say the 'i' is correct.

Beaten by swirler!
Yeah, "ordinance" is a word, it's just not the word you want. Explosive "ordinance" would be if someone said, "New rule: you can all play as dragons" and then there was a big explosive argument about the rule. That, I suppose, would be an explosive ordinance. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Ordnance is bombs and stuff.

[masterofm]

Uh.... then do it. You realize that there is almost as much information on the dragons in that prank then there is when dealing with the stat table and descriptions of meta-humans/humans in the SR4 BBB (p. 65-67, and p. 73)?

[MYST1C]

And this whole thing is in the context of a game that has given us drake PCs in the past, not to mention the Xbox game, which DID sound like a prank.

Now, now - you can't blame Catalyst for that abomination Microsoft/FASA Studios cooked up! They own the SR video game rights, they can (and did, unfortunately) abuse the name all the way they want...

[raverbane]

Excerpts from the website

"For those who haven’t caught the obvious clues here are just a few"

The asterisks in the Dragon Attribute Table are all over the place.

Dragons and Technology offers two completely different prices for dragon-compatible nanotrodes.

The Transcendence Metamagic box: A little too big, don’t you think?

The Dragons and Ranged Combat Modifiers: “they may apply a modifier between +2 and +4 (gamemaster’s discretion; standard of -3)�

If typos and errors are supposed to be signs of an obvious joke.

Then I suppose Arsenal ( http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?s=&a...st&p=626203 ) is just a really early April Fool's Joke and we can all take our 'joke' copies of Arsenal to where ever we might have purchased them and exchange them for the 'real' copy of Arsenal.

[MYST1C]

Rumour has it that Germans don't have any by birth (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) .

Actually, I once read somewhere the results of a comparative international humor study conducted by IIRC British psychologists. The had confronted candidates from various countries with jokes from all the study's countries and asked them to judge the jokes as funny or not.
To their astonishment it was the "humourless" Germans who actually judged "funny" most of the time!
On the other hand, only a minority of the other candidates considered the offered German jokes funny - most of the time they were considered "too surreal" or "incomprehensible".
So, it's not that we Germans don't have a sense of humour - the problem is the world doesn't understand it...

[Calabim]

Then I suppose Arsenal is just a really early April Fool's Joke and we can all take our 'joke' copies of Arsenal to where ever we might have purchased them and exchange them for the 'real' copy of Arsenal.

Word. Or at least a corrected pdf.

[swirler]

man...
it's rather nasty here

edit
this reminds me of something I had been noticing for awhile.
People seem to be forgetting that RPGs are supposed to be fun. Sure different people have differing ideas about what funny is, just like they have different ideas about what funny is, but come on. People take too many things personal or feel that they "deserve" exactly what they want and everyone else is just "wrong wrong wrong!!".

Some people believer that there is no room for humor of any kind in RPGs, and some publishers, ones I even like, feel that way. To me that's just sad. With some of the venomous remarks here I can see why some industry people leave it out. People can be insane about it and freak out so they just give up.

[Fortune]

... the complete lack of humor.

I too have noticed this trend being displayed lately by a certain percentage of Dumpshockers.

[Adarael]

Man, most of the German folks I know are way funnier than the Japanese folks I know. Or at least their humor isn't quite so lowbrow on average.

[Larme]

Red herring! Sense of humor only applies to things that are funny (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleepy.gif)

[Abschalten]

I appreciate the prank for what it is. It took me a while to catch on to its "joke-ness," but once I decided on it being fake, I gave a little chuckle and went about my way. What I thought was hilarious was the knee-jerk reactions of anti-SR4 zealots (not on here, in my other communities), where they pointed it out as definitive evidence of the devs screwing up the game. Now that it's revealed as the fake that it is, I suppose they can go back to grumbling over the same tired points. Meanwhile, I'm moving on with my life (as I humbly suggest that others who were so unduly "impacted" by this joke do).

[Fuchs]

I too have noticed this trend being displayed lately by a certain percentage of Dumpshockers.

There would be more humor if the "jokes" were better.

[Fortune]

Sense of humor only applies to things that are funny

Of course, if one is lacking a sense of humor, how would they know? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohplease.gif)

[Fortune]

There would be more humor if the "jokes" were better.

Shrug. Did it really cost you anything in the long run (or even in the short tern)? Lighten up!

[Fuchs]

It's news for me that having enough taste to spot bad, cheap and lame jokes is now called "lacking a sense of humor".

[Fuchs]

Shrug. Did it really cost you anything in the long run (or even in the short tern)? Lighten up!

Yes, it cost me a certain amount of my trust into Catalyst's preview releases.

[Larme]

Of course, if one is lacking a sense of humor, how would they know? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohplease.gif)

Direct phone line to the gawd of humor. Try it some time, you slappywag!

[BetaFlame]

I too have noticed this trend being displayed lately by a certain percentage of Dumpshockers.

Honestly, I might have found it funny if they didn't drag it out so long.

2 weeks? That's like telling a two line joke, and coming back a week later to deliver the punchline. Most people are gonna be like "wtfmate?"

The people typing up page long rants and complaining about a lack of professionalism are taking the whole thing a bit personally. The only thing that offends me is the really bad comedic timing. Take some lessons, folks.

[Cthulhudreams]

I agree with people saying that a joke needs to be fast and punchy. Dragging it out so it becomes a debate topic while everyone beats the horse to death is not funny, and is trolling. I do think a punchy joke is appropriate on april fools day.

I do not think it is appropriate to release your april fools joke on the 2nd, and let it run for two weeks, both of which give the impression that it's real is just chumming the waters and trolling. Trolling your customer base is made of retarded.

[Fortune]

Try it some time, you slappywag!

I didn't know exactly what that word means, so I looked it up (apparently slappywag means a penis, a jerk, or a stupid person). I am definitely insulted by your post. I was under the impression that personal attacks and insults were not allowed on Dumpshock. You'll note that I did not insult you (or in fact anyone) personally.