Wal-Mart gun purchase program, soon to be copied at Weapons World Options

[Riley37]

www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN1421318620080414

[CanRay]

Do you really think Ares would let something like "the law" get in the way of ensuring that (*Hands on hips, talking like a overexagerated Superhero*) EVERY MAN WOMAN AND CHILD IN THE WORLD IS ABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES?

Hell no. That's why they're a MegaCorporation with the ability to make their own laws. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Cthulhudreams]

I don't know. I imagine a fairly common use for ares' weapons is shooting at ares' employees. It makes sense in that context.

[sunnyside]

Oh, I"m betting Ares does something like that. Except for the stopping straw purchases part and telling the government what they've found.

But if your guns start showing up in attacks on Ares, well, you may have to answer some questions the next time you walk in the store, which is, after all, now outside of your governments jurisdiction.

[O'Donnell Heir]

Honestly it's total BS. Oh, they'll do it alright, but anyone who's planning on even possibly committing a crime doesn't get their weapon from a store (You think FASA invented fixers?), and if they do, it's already something that can be tracked fairly easily.

[Aaron]

Would it kill you to make it a link? Y'know, like www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN1421318620080414?

[Fix-it]

1: please use the link function for us lazy people.
2: who the hell buys a gun at walmart?

[IQ Zero]

If you were a "professional" criminal, would you actually buy your gun at WalMart?

[nathanross]

For as long as Weapons World has existed in SR, I have never used it. They already register it to a SIN (which would have my precious biometrics stored), and that is too much for me to deal with.

[Critias]

Just more bullshit hoops to make law-abiding gun owners jump through (and more of our privacy to invade) in order to make the libs feel like they're doing something about violent crime (without the "doing something" being anything that might hurt the feelings of the poor, underpriviledged, violent criminals and those who love them).

[CanRay]

Just more bullshit hoops to make law-abiding gun owners jump through (and more of our privacy to invade) in order to make the libs feel like they're doing something about violent crime (without the "doing something" being anything that might hurt the feelings of the poor, underpriviledged, violent criminals and those who love them).

Like Defence Lawyers that make lots and lots of money...

[Kerberos]

If you were a "professional" criminal, would you actually buy your gun at WalMart?

You've played to much Shadowrun. Criminals are as a group are a bunch of pathetic losers, not highly competent professionals. Some would almost certainly be stupid and careless enough to buy their guns at a regular shop.

[hobgoblin]

or even try to rob a gun shop...

[CanRay]

You've played to much Shadowrun. Criminals are as a group are a bunch of pathetic losers, not highly competent professionals. Some would almost certainly be stupid and careless enough to buy their guns at a regular shop.

The joke about the guy that walked into the Police Station, dropped a Kilo of Coke on the front desk, and demanded his dealer be arrested for cutting it and then selling it as pure.

Yeah, that's not a joke.

Shadowrunners are replacements for Industrial Spies which, like every other industry in the world, has now been outsourced.

[Kerberos]

The joke about the guy that walked into the Police Station, dropped a Kilo of Coke on the front desk, and demanded his dealer be arrested for cutting it and then selling it as pure.

Yeah, that's not a joke.

I can believe that, a guy I knew on an Internet forum told that his (now ex) wife called the cops on him because he threw the pot she was smoking into a field.

[Fuchs]

Just more bullshit hoops to make law-abiding gun owners jump through (and more of our privacy to invade) in order to make the libs feel like they're doing something about violent crime (without the "doing something" being anything that might hurt the feelings of the poor, underpriviledged, violent criminals and those who love them).

Yes. Instead of dealing with law breakers, the media and some politicians are caught up in their fantasy of "preventing crime" by outlawing anything deemed dangerous - be it computer games, or guns.

I always say, if people can't be trusted to own guns, then they can't be trusted to vote. But I guess that comes next, probably disguised as some "minimal knowledge of democratic procedures" requirement. Maybe they'll recycle the tests from the last century.

[IQ Zero]

You've played to much Shadowrun. Criminals are as a group are a bunch of pathetic losers, not highly competent professionals. Some would almost certainly be stupid and careless enough to buy their guns at a regular shop.

Actually, don't think of runners as criminals, think of them as ... freelance spies or even professional hit men, not the amateur druggies looking to score their next high.

[CanRay]

Actually, don't think of runners as criminals, think of them as ... freelance spies or even professional hit men, not the amateur druggies looking to score their next high.

With the way my group is turning out, I can only wish that! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif)

[hermit]

Well duh. Guns'll still be in the far left part of the store, will they? Anyway, if you eman to do something not too law-abiding with your gun, you buy it at an arms fair anyway, don't you? Besides, they already demand your license, don't they?

Don't really see where that invades privacy allt hat much. Not that farmer joe and his gun will stop any SWAT-ish assault team from getting them for hard interrogation (after all, it's not torture) anyway.

Actually, don't think of runners as criminals, think of them as ... freelance spies or even professional hit men, not the amateur druggies looking to score their next high.

You're so SR3, dude. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Seriously, I think of runners like that too, but to each their own.

[Nychuus]

Yeehaw, they're going to film every gun purchase. Much help that's going to be. All they're going to get is a face and probably a credit card number (if the purchaser is THAT dumb, but then the buyer isn't going to do anything with the gun anyhow)

All you have to do is report it stolen a few months later... Oh god, I'm giving them ideas... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleepy.gif)

[CanRay]

Oh, they already know that, Nychuus, don't worry.

[kzt]

Honestly it's total BS. Oh, they'll do it alright, but anyone who's planning on even possibly committing a crime doesn't get their weapon from a store (You think FASA invented fixers?), and if they do, it's already something that can be tracked fairly easily.

Gun stores have the Fugitives from Justice and Felons try to buy guns all the time. It's amazing. Some of them even check yes on the form. It's odd how it often seems the criminals are generally not too bright....

[kzt]

or even try to rob a gun shop...

There are, I kid you not, gun stores in Kalifornia where the employees are not allowed to be armed and are instructed not to resist.

[WhiteWolf]

www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN1421318620080414

Kind of reminds me of Adolf Hitler. Before he took control of Germany he was able to have their law makers pass a law to enforce everyone who owned a gun to register it, and then shortly after he was placed in control he sent the Secret Police around to every gun owners home and confiscated their weapons. This prevented the people from forming an armed malitia to challenge him. I see the security cameras as another step towards the action that happened in Germany before World War II.

[O'Donnell Heir]

Well thanks a lot, now our side's just lost the argument. Damn you Godwin's Law!