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post Apr 15 2008, 09:04 PM
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Oh yeah, a player I play with regularily, himself a smoker has a character whose one Geas involves smoking weed once a day. Dopehead characters aren't too uncommon among my crowd anyway.
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post Apr 15 2008, 09:20 PM
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I would never kick someone out of my house for smoking. I would not go back twice to a game at someone else's house if I were kicked outside to smoke.
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post Apr 15 2008, 09:38 PM
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With the people I know, asking smokers politely to smoke by an open window is a working compromise. Especially in a non-smoker's appartment.
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post Apr 15 2008, 09:43 PM
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Depends on the reason for the Non-Smokers.

There are medication conditions that Cigarette Smoke causes problems with, and the Smoke LINGERS a lot longer than most smokers think.
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post Apr 15 2008, 09:54 PM
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Actually, finding the smell of cold smoke repulsive and not wanting it in their place is sufficient to me.
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post Apr 15 2008, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 15 2008, 04:04 PM) *
Oh yeah, a player I play with regularily, himself a smoker has a character whose one Geas involves smoking weed once a day. Dopehead characters aren't too uncommon among my crowd anyway.

Perhaps you should tell them that weed is only psychologically addictive (which has nothing to do with the weed itself, but rather is a form of escapism) and not physically addictive. Don't believe the media (They seem to think weed has the side effects of alcohol after all)
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post Apr 15 2008, 10:18 PM
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Well. So is Cocaine. Besides, a Geas is purely psychological anyway, isn't it?
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post Apr 15 2008, 11:28 PM
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I usually GM, but when I play I usually play a character that smokes semi-regularly - probably because I do so as well. Just makes the character more familiar to me (and gives excuses to run into the stuffer shack so I can get ambushed by soykaf-exploding bullets (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) ).

As for smoking IRL and how it works with gaming...Living in not-so-sunny NorCal, where the "State as Nanny" mindset is status quo, it's pretty much taboo to smoke indoors anywhere here - I've just gotten used to it, no biggie. None of my fellow gamers smokes (well, one does - and very rarely) so if I want to smoke I pop outside. Everyone plays, everyone wins.

Now if the gov pulls some shit telling me I can't smoke in my car (and I only do so when I'm alone in my car or when with others who all smoke) then that's where I draw the line and make for Montana (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Or maybe Italy. People are sexier there anyway.
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post Apr 16 2008, 01:26 AM
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I was a Pipe and Cigar Smoker for many, many years but quit in 1989.

I much preferred pipe smoke to cigarette smoke, my cigar smoke was lethal to any one not smoking a cigar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) No I did not smoke the cigars with newpaper as part of the mix either. I smoked the good expensive ones. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

If any of my characters smoke it will be pipes and or cigars. A good Balkan/Turkish Latakia Tobacco and Perique Tobacco blends. In my Shadowrun games Tobacco has awakened varieties, the Perique one especially. Any Pipes are of large freehand briers and meerschaum pipes(Calabashes being the main ones).

As for smokers in my house they go outside, or do not smoke.

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post Apr 16 2008, 03:32 AM
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Three cigarettes together contain enough nicotine to kill an average adult human if ingested in their entirety. One cigar also contains enough nicotine to kill an average adult human. One cigarette or one third of a cigar can kill a small child.

So, if you've got a pack of cigarettes then you've got a perfectly legal poison capable of killing several people. Unfortunately, it is extremely difficult, to both trick someone into eating three cigarettes and make sure that he doesn't vomit them up before metabolizing them. Small children are easier. A few toddlers die from eating cigarettes every now and then. Adults aren't easy at all. But, you can extract the nicotine from the tobacco in the same way one extracts caffeine from tea leaves coffee beans. It would be difficult to convince someone to drink the resulting liquid without artificial flavoring and coloring, but it would also be injectable. There is, in fact, a very good assassin movie, Fulltime Killer, in which a flamboyant killer uses injected nicotine to take out a high-profile target.

Cigarettes also have many other uses. If you have the ability to see the infrared spectrum, such as trolls and dwarves and people with thermographic cybereyes, cigarette smoke can be used to scatter light from infrared laser beams, letting you see trip-lasers that might set off an alarm or a deathtrap. The smoke can always be used to set off smoke alarms, which would almost certainly activate fire suppression systems and cause a general panic as well as unlocking emergency exits. Cigarettes also make an effective interrogation tool, they can be Macgyvering into a time-delay fuse, you can use them to burn leaches off of your body, and they'll give you more time during the fight with Big Boss. In short, they are very useful even if you don't smoke them.
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post Apr 16 2008, 03:56 AM
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You get the nicotine out using a solution of Everclear alcohol, allow the Everclear to evaporate off abit till you get a paste. Then dissolve the paste into DMSO, apply the DMSO and nicotine solution to who ever you wish to have issues with living. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead.gif)

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post Apr 16 2008, 01:59 PM
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Cigarettes also have many other uses. If you have the ability to see the infrared spectrum, such as trolls and dwarves and people with thermographic cybereyes, cigarette smoke can be used to scatter light from infrared laser beams, letting you see trip-lasers that might set off an alarm or a deathtrap.

Not to mention they make a fine flashlight for the infrared seers. Of course, they would glow themselves enough to brighten up any place they're in for their IR vision, so that's propably a moot point. Reminds me: whoever plays a troll or dwarf with a fear of darkness phobia gets slapped by me severely.

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and they'll give you more time during the fight with Big Boss

Whoa. Really? I always felt the time limit was rather short ... thought it nicely challenging though.

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You get the nicotine out using a solution of Everclear alcohol, allow the Everclear to evaporate off abit till you get a paste. Then dissolve the paste into DMSO, apply the DMSO and nicotine solution to who ever you wish to have issues with living.

You do have to make sure the DMSO transports enough poison itno their body to kill them though, so you better condense that nicotine really tightly. You might also try to buy a family pack of troll-sized nicotine patches for trolls who want to give up smokuing and apply patch after patch to a suspended victim, or use cheap insecticides, which often use nicotine as their main component.
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post Apr 16 2008, 02:09 PM
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I can't believe that noone's suggested the coolest part of smoking yet!

Shoot the gas tank, wait for the trickle of fuel to dribble down close to you, light up, and casually drop the cigarette into the flammable liquid to turn the entire car into one big Molotov Cocktail.

Just like in the John Woo movies.
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post Apr 16 2008, 02:13 PM
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Of course, this works ONLY in movies, not IRL. Depends on the level of cinematic in your game, I guess.
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post Apr 16 2008, 02:22 PM
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*Sighs* Yeah, I know.

Dad's a Truck Driver, and he cringes when he watches movies where that happens.

Same way I do when watching Hacker movies, I guess.
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post Apr 16 2008, 02:59 PM
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Lots of people believe that, though. When I was at the gas station the other day, a girl spilled some gasoline onto the ground and her car and was all in tears because she had to go to an important meeting, but didn't want to explode with her car when starting the engine, since there was spilled gasoline around it ...
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post Apr 16 2008, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE (Fortune @ Apr 14 2008, 09:53 PM) *
I just figure that by 2070, cigarettes come in a wide variety of pleasant, non-offensive flavors and odors.

Yup.

My Triad Face, Billy, smokes mint-scented, tooth-whitening, cigarettes. He's sure cancer won't get the chance to kill him before his day job does, and it keeps his pearly whites both pearly and white, all while he gets to look cool by smoking. Win/win!
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post Apr 16 2008, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 16 2008, 06:13 AM) *
Of course, this works ONLY in movies, not IRL. Depends on the level of cinematic in your game, I guess.


I think they blew this one, as well as the fuel tracing back to the gas tank of a moving vehicle, completely apart on Mythbusters.
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post Apr 16 2008, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (Critias @ Apr 16 2008, 10:01 AM) *
My Triad Face, Billy, smokes mint-scented, tooth-whitening, cigarettes. He's sure cancer won't get the chance to kill him before his day job does, and it keeps his pearly whites both pearly and white, all while he gets to look cool by smoking. Win/win!

Bah, lungs are cheap, neh?
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post Apr 17 2008, 04:16 AM
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QUOTE (Fortune @ Apr 16 2008, 05:20 AM) *
I would never kick someone out of my house for smoking. I would not go back twice to a game at someone else's house if I were kicked outside to smoke.


Wow, you would lose a few gaming circles round here. The place i last lived at, before now, had it in the fucking lease agreement that I must make smokers smoke outside
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post Apr 17 2008, 08:50 AM
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Shrug. I have never really had a problem when it comes to smoking ... either mine or other people's. I've gamed in too many places to list over the past 30 years or so, among them universities, restaurants, clubs, private residences, office buildings, sports arenas, and everything in between, without hassle. Admittedly there are a lot of places that wouldn't allow it nowadays that didn't care 20 years ago, but then I just avoid those places now.
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post Apr 17 2008, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE (Kremlin KOA @ Apr 16 2008, 11:16 PM) *
Wow, you would lose a few gaming circles round here. The place i last lived at, before now, had it in the fucking lease agreement that I must make smokers smoke outside
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My lease won't allow smoking indoors either. Seeing as I don't smoke, it's not an issue, but I do need to request that my players that are smokers go out to spark up.
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post Apr 17 2008, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE (Kremlin KOA @ Apr 17 2008, 12:16 AM) *
Wow, you would lose a few gaming circles round here. The place i last lived at, before now, had it in the fucking lease agreement that I must make smokers smoke outside
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Have you ever considered quietly describing your character's actions in your last successful game session to your landlord as if they were things that you have actually done in real life and then saying "Knowing this, you must ask yourself one question. Is it wise for you to evict me over such a minor infraction as a friend smoking? Do you think that doing so would be beneficial to your long-term health and well-being or do you think that it would it be disadvantageous to your continued livelihood? Personally, if our positions were reversed, I'd simply think that it isn't worth the risk. But, it's your life. You can do whatever the hell you want with it."?
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Or, alternately, you could not sign a lease (and as such, not move in) to somewhere that you know disallows smoking.
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Or alternately your gaming friends could quite smoking totally. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sarcastic.gif)

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