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[Fortune]

Arsenal was printed and released (in pdf) before the 5th printing of the SR4 rulebook. The pdf came out quite a while (a couple of months?) prior to the actual dead tree version (with no changes between the two as far as I know), and in the intervening time the 5th printing of the BBB was put out.

There has been no new Errata since the 3rd printing of the core book, as 1.3 is the latest version at the present time, with none accompanying or following the 4th printing. The plan as I know it is the powers-that-be are going to release a new version of the Errata Soon™.

[toturi]

Arsenal was printed and released (in pdf) before the 5th printing of the SR4 rulebook. The pdf came out quite a while (a couple of months?) prior to the actual dead tree version (with no changes between the two as far as I know), and in the intervening time the 5th printing of the BBB was put out.

There has been no new Errata since the 3rd printing of the core book, as 1.3 is the latest version at the present time, with none accompanying or following the 4th printing. The plan as I know it is the powers-that-be are going to release a new version of the Errata Soon™.

Which still means that the paper version of Arsenal is after the paper version of the 5th printing. Furthermore, the online errata states version 1.5 and not version 1.3. The latest word is still the dead tree Arsenal.

[Muspellsheimr]

Which still means that the paper version of Arsenal is after the paper version of the 5th printing. Furthermore, the online errata states version 1.5 and not version 1.3. The latest word is still the dead tree Arsenal.

By the time the fifth printing was released, Arsenal was already at least half-way through the print run, and had been available for purchase in PDF for over a month. Any errata changes to Arsenal would not make it into the first printing, without question.

The errata was supposedly updated with the changes in 5th printing, but nothing changed, except v1.4 to v1.5 (first line) - not even the supposed date of the errata.

Further, there are significant errors, typo's, and inconsistencies in the Arsenal charts. Although I am unsure about Catalyst's stance on the issue, it is fairly standard for RPG's that printed text overrides tables & charts in all instances, and the core book overrides anything stated in advanced rulebooks (unless specifically stated otherwise). Also, buying Arsenal to update the already available rules is pretty damn retarded - it's charts are for quick reference, not errata, and was printed because of everything *not* already in the core book.

On a final note, if any of the developer's are reading this thread, it would be nice if we could here what the official stance and version to be used is.

[kzt]

On a final note, if any of the developer's are reading this thread, it would be nice if we could here what the official stance and version to be used is.

That would spoil the joke. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[toturi]

By the time the fifth printing was released, Arsenal was already at least half-way through the print run, and had been available for purchase in PDF for over a month. Any errata changes to Arsenal would not make it into the first printing, without question.

And by the time 5th printing was half way through the print run, Arsenal would be in the final stages of prep for PDF. So either way, the errata should have had time to get into hardcopy Arsenal, even if it slipped by the PDF version. If the intention was for all flechette weapons to get +5AP, that would have been clear by the 4th printing, then Arsenal should never have had another new flechette weapon with +2AP.

Also, buying Arsenal to update the already available rules is pretty damn retarded - it's charts are for quick reference, not errata, and was printed because of everything *not* already in the core book.

Buying Arsenal to only update the already available rules is pretty damn retarded. But if the intention was to kill 2 birds with 1 stone and to check sum across references, then retarded it is not.