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Apr 16 2008, 12:19 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Had to explain want a "Burner" is to someone (I watch a lot of "Law and Order" and "CSI", so I get the basic concept behind the idea.), and came up with this. It's a bit too adult for dA, where I usually post my writing, so figured I'd put it up here:
Drug Dealin' Dickie, the Barrens Brat, decides it's time to go upscale with his NovaCoke business, and wants to sell to the Corporate Stooges at the Mall. But he was born SINless, which is why he's a Drug Dealer in the first place. Gotta feed the fablies somehow. So, he talks to our good friend, Felix the Fixer, and buys a Fake SIN, then heads over to a Stuffer Shack, and buys the cheapest CommLink he can get. Fake SIN: 1000¥. CommLink with OS: 300¥. Ability to sell at a Mall: We'll find out how priceless that is now. With this, he can head to the mall, with his "Real SIN", and not get hasselled by the Mall Cops: "Oh, the ratty threads? Latest style, my man! Paid more just for the realistic lookin' rips!" Now, NovaCoke normally goes for 10¥ a pop, but that's low-level street price, and Dickie doesn't cut his stuff. He sells quality. Dickie figures that Corpers have money, and can pay twice that. He sells baggies of NovaCoke, holding ten doses, for 200¥ to rich Corpers. He sells 25 of these on the first day, making 5000¥, for a day's work, and spent 1300¥ in expenses (He got the NovaCoke by beating up a rival ganger. So no cost there). And that's day one. He still has more NovaCoke at his place. He can do this two, three days more maybe. Let's say he does this for three days before the Mall Cops *FINALLY* catch on (Remember, they don't pay these guys too well.). That's 15000¥. Drug Dealin' Dickie Syphons off that money into a Mafia-Run bank that doesn't ask questions, but does ask for 15%. So, for 3550¥ he has semi-clean cash he can spend in the Barrens, and for a total expense of 4850¥ he has just made a total profit of 10150¥. Time to hit the Crime Mall, and see what's on "sale". On the way there Dickie drops the 'Link on a Bum with, maybe, 150¥ on it, just to give Dickie an even number, and to get the bum so wasted he can't remember who gave him the 'Link if the Star comes after the SIN for peddling drugs. Those are the upsides. Now, for the downsides, I'll let you guys figure out. |
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Apr 16 2008, 01:45 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,269 Joined: 18-September 06 Member No.: 9,421 |
The biggest downside is the need for reciprocal security. If you don't sow that thing up tight the first hacker you walk past is going to rip a huge hole in your MetaLink and go to town.
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Apr 16 2008, 01:46 PM
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Creating a god with his own hands ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 30-September 02 From: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 Member No.: 3,364 |
Dickie is selling on the Triad's turf, and ends up spare parts in the clinic tanks a week later.
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Apr 16 2008, 01:52 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
The biggest downside is the need for reciprocal security. If you don't sow that thing up tight the first hacker you walk past is going to rip a huge hole in your MetaLink and go to town. Chris Very true, but that was a risk he had to take in order to make the big (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) ! |
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Apr 16 2008, 01:54 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
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Apr 16 2008, 02:02 PM
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
If you don't keep anything interesting on your Burner links, the hacker can do shit to you by hacking them. Best, don't integrate that link into your PAN and use another, skinlinked link as your main commlink. Or an implanted one, though I'd recommend implanting three and using two as iced bottlenecks to deal with curious hackers or mancers.
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Apr 16 2008, 02:03 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: 4-April 08 Member No.: 15,843 |
The biggest downside is the need for reciprocal security. If you don't [sew] that thing up tight the first hacker you walk past is going to rip a huge hole in your MetaLink and go to town. Why is the hacker more or less likely to go after DDD's 'link than any other slot-in-the-mall? Does everyone carry top-of-the-line links and top-rating firewalls? And what are they going to get out of it? The day's takings that haven't yet been siphoned off into a certified credstick with the in-only switch thrown... If low rating Commlinks are that useless and insecure, who buys them? Why are they even on the manufacturers' inventory? |
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Apr 16 2008, 02:08 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Why is the hacker more or less likely to go after DDD's 'link than any other slot-in-the-mall? Does everyone carry top-of-the-line links and top-rating firewalls? And what are they going to get out of it? The day's takings that haven't yet been siphoned off into a certified credstick with the in-only switch thrown... If low rating Commlinks are that useless and insecure, who buys them? Why are they even on the manufacturers' inventory? Why do people buy low-end, poorly put together laptops and desktop computers and then expect me to support them. Because they're stupid and buy when the TV tells them to buy! *Drops to ground, shivering in terror at troubleshooting Windows ME Dell Laptop with No-Name Brand USB Wireless Dongle with 3-Rd Party Software That's In Engrish* |
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Apr 16 2008, 02:11 PM
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Of course, 65 years in the future, it's feasible to assume software is much mroe stable, and after two (three when counting Deus' first appearance) great to global disasters related to faulty computer security, people should be a tad more security-conscious. Yes, I don't see much use for lowest-level links either, save as ana uxiliary device to broadcast sepcific info for very specific places (like, your preferences in your local nightclub). They couldn't even run one decent program.
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Apr 16 2008, 02:19 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
OK, what does the average person use their CommLink for? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?
Keys, Wallet, ID, Simsense, contacting friends. Not much else. To the average consumer, it will be, "WOW! I just combined my CredStick and my Cell Phone with my Pocket Computer all in one device! That also handles all the stuff my DataTerm did back home, but is also portable!" They're not trying to hack the 'Trix, they're not trying to subvert the masses, the only real issue is SpamBombs. And those are annoying. I'm sure folks here are old enough to remember the Pop-Up Attacks from back in the early Web Browser days! Did it cause mass hysteria? No, it was an annoyance. Nothing more. Same here. Now, on to the level of security... Identity Theft is the major increasing type of theft on the market, and, honestly, how many people even care? Not enough. Same deal. *BUT*, well, I'd be giving spoilers for "Emergence" for the rest of this story. So, go buy and read that campaign book! Or, if you're a player, beg your GM to run you in it! (To the people at Catalyst Game Labs, please send 10 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) for increasing sales. Thank you.) |
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Apr 16 2008, 02:46 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: 4-April 08 Member No.: 15,843 |
A little further thought:
DDD has the commlink for official ID purposes only. The only use for the link is that. There's probably some faked-up "personal prioofile" with fake diary, fake shopping lists and the rest just to give it a cursory appearance of legitimacy, and possibly a fake, or at least throwaway bank account details with a few Nuyen of overdraft. What would it matter if the hacker did "go to town" on it? His ID might end up a bit mangled, but that would demonstrably be down to hack attack and curable by a reboot. There's nothing in it of interest to a hacker except the ID which is disposable and no more useful than the IDs of all the other schmos. Transactions with customers would go direct to the certified credstick: would you let someone like DDD's link connect to your e-wallet? |
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Apr 16 2008, 02:57 PM
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Okay, make that four global matrix-related catastrophes (or perceived catastrophes), including Emergence. Why should joe average be as careless with the matrix as people, not given that history, are with the internet today?
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Apr 16 2008, 03:02 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Okay, make that four global matrix-related catastrophes (or perceived catastrophes), including Emergence. Why should joe average be as careless with the matrix as people, not given that history, are with the internet today? Excellent question! They wouldn't! Which means that they'd be *BUYING* newer and better things!!! Which do jack squat. Due to contracts I have signed, I cannot comment as to the exact name or maker, but I can speak of one of the most commonly used Anti-Virus programs, which also happens to be the most expensive, advertised, and bundled, which has RUINED more computers than it's protected. Those people, who, again, are in the majority, are *THINKING* they are getting better security, when, in reality, they're just slightly more secure, and screwing themselves over. Fine, they spend Eleventy-Billion Nuyen on the NEWEST AND IMPROVED ANTI-WHATEVER software that boosts their Firewall rating from 1 to... 2!!! Personally, I love Slamm-Os little trick he pulled in Emergence as well. Again, read the book to find out!!! It's the PERCEPTION of security that makes people feel safe. The average consumer won't know how to test a Firewall successfully, they'll hit the Matrix, and check out the "Test your Firewall Here"! Which just happens to be a site put up by the Firewall companies themselves, but doesn't look it. If you're running their software, you're "Safe", if not, "THEN BUY THIS SOFTWARE NOW! OR YOUR SIN WILL BE USED FOR ILLEGAL MEANS!!!" |
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Apr 16 2008, 03:03 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: 4-April 08 Member No.: 15,843 |
Okay, make that four global matrix-related catastrophes (or perceived catastrophes), including Emergence. Why should joe average be as careless with the matrix as people, not given that history, are with the internet today? Given that history, it behooves the hardware-producing companies to be a little more careful with security than they are today, too, unless they're meaning to *feed* the chaos. Cue conspiracy theorists... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Apr 16 2008, 03:07 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Given that history, it behooves the hardware-producing companies to be a little more careful with security than they are today, too, unless they're meaning to *feed* the chaos. Cue conspiracy theorists... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Conspiracy theory my hoop! Security software is big business! And, well, if Aztechnology is about to get some bad press, look at the new Anti-Hacking Software that Q-Soft is coming out with to protect little Jimmy from having EVIL HACKERS fry his brain when he 'Trodes in for homework! |
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Apr 16 2008, 03:15 PM
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE Due to contracts I have signed, I cannot comment as to the exact name or maker, but I can speak of one of the most commonly used Anti-Virus programs, which also happens to be the most expensive, advertised, and bundled, which has RUINED more computers than it's protected. Yeah, but there's got to be some progress on crappyness of software in the next 65 years. Look at the failure rates of cars in the 50s and now, and behold the discrepancy, for instance. Also, with three major global events emphathising how crappy matrix security can KILL YOU, wich so far no computer virus can, I just cannot see that, sorry. It's life-reatening to have your link hacked. Someone might then turn it into VR mode and fry your brain (using an attack program and doing stun damage, a hacker can, thanks to damage overflow, actually kill, it just takes time). Also, with 40 years of cybercrime, corporations have fel the need to produce IC that can kill people to protect themselves, so they gotta be security-conscious enough to not make their employees a great security risk by ordering business links with lower-than-optimal defenses. It has always been emphathised that any mega and AA is reasonably paranoid about security. Why scrap that for saving some 2000 Bucks per employee when it will propably cost you far more money? |
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Apr 16 2008, 03:31 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 698 Joined: 26-October 06 From: Iowa, United States Member No.: 9,720 |
Because the wageslaves are quite secure in their little world.
It won't happen to them, it happens to everyone else. They have no problem supplying their bank account information for a standard "security check" or "age verification"... They're just extremely confused when (if they even notice, some just trust the system to work, afterall the corps and govt are flawless) some strange charges appear on their account. And why should they spend out 3,000 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) (approx $15,000 if I remember) for a better firewall (R6), when the company can supply them with the delux-user friendly firewall (R2) that they say provides top-class security for joe average price. They're smart enough that they didn't get the basic version (R2), those are for the non-elite. The truth is the world is blind to the workings of the shadows, and those that know of them work hard to keep the rest from finding out. Even those in the barrens are the down-and-out, they don't know any more of whats going on than people in a 4th world country. As long as your kid isn't one that likes to slum it in the barrens you don't worry, all is fine in your eutopia because the Corps say it is. They are the sheep, we are the wolves, and our little drug peddler... He's going to get his due, because he's walking on the edge of the shadows and he's in someone else's territory. |
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Apr 16 2008, 03:33 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Sorry, but the car anology won't work with me. I'd take a '57 Chevy El Dorado against a '07 Chevy Impala any day of the week. Modern car technology has made things worse from my point of view.
Of course, that's the point of view of someone living in fairly harsh weather conditions that requires fine tuning of the engine a number of times a year, and with ~one-ton animals that walk out into highways, and you need to make sure you *KILL* when you hit it, or at least be able to drive away. Neither of which happen with a car designed to break like modern ones do. So my view might be slightly askewed. And Corporations want to feel safe, and everyone else to *NOT* feel safe. By making them stay in fear, they get to, one, restrict more freedoms, and two, sell more "Security". Again, perceptions. Your fancy, expensive Firewall looks good and nice and comes in a great package, with a nice warentee by Q-Soft (Which is invalidated as soon as it's modified, which happens as soon as you connect your PAN to a non-Aztechnology piece of equipment), but it's still just a Firewall 2. Why? Because you don't *KNOW* any better. The people that do know better... Are, one, the hackers who break things, and two, the security experts who *WILL* get the better firewalls and security, and make sure their family and friends are safe. And, again, those are the minority. Remember, keep the Sheeple happy, well fed, and scared of everything except for the benevolent Corporation that will keep them safe from the nasty SINless. |
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Apr 16 2008, 04:40 PM
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE Of course, that's the point of view of someone living in fairly harsh weather conditions that requires fine tuning of the engine a number of times a year, and with ~one-ton animals that walk out into highways, and you need to make sure you *KILL* when you hit it, or at least be able to drive away. Neither of which happen with a car designed to break like modern ones do. So my view might be slightly askewed. You might want to consider driving an H1 or some demilitarised Land Rover if you routinely run over elks ... and live in harsh conditions. Or try something russian and armoured. If dearmed, it should even be legal ... though they're terrible gas-guzzlers, for all I know. QUOTE And Corporations want to feel safe, and everyone else to *NOT* feel safe. By making them stay in fear, they get to, one, restrict more freedoms, and two, sell more "Security". ... and compromise themselves in the process? If SR's megas were that short-sighted, they'd have gone the way of Enron a long time ago. QUOTE The people that do know better... Are, one, the hackers who break things, and two, the security experts who *WILL* get the better firewalls and security, and make sure their family and friends are safe. So long as they are within corp premises, wage salves are nodes in the corp net the secadmin has to keep secure. |
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Apr 16 2008, 05:32 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 698 Joined: 26-October 06 From: Iowa, United States Member No.: 9,720 |
So long as they are within corp premises, wage salves are nodes in the corp net the secadmin has to keep secure. Not necessarily. Many businessmen (present) have 2 cellphones, one for business (paid and issued by company), and one for their personal use (own pocket expense). Corps would probably do the same thing only allow the corp issued comms for use in the business place, and fine anyone who uses them for personal use. This way they don't have to worry about someone visiting a troll-furry web page and opening a gate for a hacker into their network. It also allows them to have the commlinks only have access to what is necessary and up their security that way. So Joe Wageslave can have his commlink hacked all they want. And they only have to protect their own devices, and limiting their functionality prevents the (less dedicated) idiots from compromising their system. |
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Apr 16 2008, 06:00 PM
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Possible, yes. However, why should Joe Wageslave buy a notably less powerful link with different programs than he is used to? the corp might even offer him a deal on their stuff, so they can riddle it with trojans that spy on their employees when they think they can let their hair down ... whcih seems to be common practice in business anyway.
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Apr 16 2008, 06:02 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
'Cause he can get an even BETTER deal at Hell Computers that mass produces garbage? And fills them with same?
Unless, of course, you're talking ABOUT Hell Computers, in which case, go right ahead. |
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Apr 16 2008, 06:18 PM
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
HELL is any major mega in SR. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Apr 16 2008, 06:21 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
No, I bet the Megas have better quality control.
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Apr 16 2008, 06:25 PM
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Yes, for their premium produce, but for the cheap-ass stuff they have licensed to some Nairobi or HK or CC outfit and just sell under their label? Never.
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