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[SprainOgre]

I'm thinking Rock Band campaign - who's with? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I can't run that sort of game in SR yet, since I'm obligated to run it in Exalted first.

The Lawbringers
The Greatest Rock Act in all Creation!
Tour Coming soon to an Elemental Poll Near You...

Yeah, that one has to come first. After that, maybe rock out in SR...

[ravensmuse]

I can't run that sort of game in SR yet, since I'm obligated to run it in Exalted first.

The Lawbringers
The Greatest Rock Act in all Creation!
Tour Coming soon to an Elemental Poll Near You...

Yeah, that one has to come first. After that, maybe rock out in SR...

See, this is why these rules have to be converted, and not just because "SprainOgre" is a cool name. Social mechanics, especially social manipulation mechanics, are cool. We could just upscale the adept powers, but it should be available to mundanes too, right?

If there's anything Exalted really made me happy with, it was those social rules. Well that, martial arts, and Dragon Kings. Which is why I wanted playable Dragons in Companion. But I'm totally not a dragon / dinosaur fan-raven. Not ever.

[SprainOgre]

See, this is why these rules have to be converted, and not just because "SprainOgre" is a cool name. Social mechanics, especially social manipulation mechanics, are cool. We could just upscale the adept powers, but it should be available to mundanes too, right?

If there's anything Exalted really made me happy with, it was those social rules. Well that, martial arts, and Dragon Kings. Which is why I wanted playable Dragons in Companion. But I'm totally not a dragon / dinosaur fan-raven. Not ever.

I've been rocking out as Sprain Ogre since HS (ten year reunion is a month or so off. Woot?) Hell, there's a bunch of people in the real world that only know me as Ogre. So, yes, "SprainOgre" rulez!

What I was actually suggesting, is using the adept powers as a basis. If one were to want a social system, available even to those poor schmucks who are not Awakened, we can use the new martial arts system from Arsenal.

Make a special, multiple point costing, background for social manipulation. Social-Fu as it were. This skill opens up a number of special Social-Fu abilities that you can now use, from several different Social-Fu styles. Like Rocker, Politico, Media Personality, Actor, Negotiator, etc. These give you a nice little collection of pointed social buffs that can look like some of the adept powers out there (for example, some sort of "commanding voice" variant). Now we have a Social-Fu ninja, with plenty of tasty options for customization, extrapolated from the existing rules, so we've hopefully maintained some sense of internal cohesion and balance.

And it did suck that the preview for Runners Companion was an April Fools. And, sorry, a really weak one at that. Now, if there would have been a Rick Roll in there (or if it would have been put out on, oh I don't know, April Fools Day) then it would have been far better.

[ravensmuse]

I've been rocking out as Sprain Ogre since HS (ten year reunion is a month or so off. Woot?) Hell, there's a bunch of people in the real world that only know me as Ogre. So, yes, "SprainOgre" rulez!

Mine's not far off either, though I've got two years to your month. Freaks me out.

What I was actually suggesting, is using the adept powers as a basis. If one were to want a social system, available even to those poor schmucks who are not Awakened, we can use the new martial arts system from Arsenal.

I think building it along the same lines as the martial arts quality is a really great idea - you can start out as the nova hot pop star or be a lowly singer working her way through the meatgrinder that is the music industry. Or, you could go the NiN route and do all of your releases via the 'rix, slowly building a rep. Just be careful if you're a shadowrunner by "day" and a pop star by "night"...

So we should go with something like Positive Quality - Performance Arts (5/10/15/20/25 BP) and work from there?

And it did suck that the preview for Runners Companion was an April Fools. And, sorry, a really weak one at that. Now, if there would have been a Rick Roll in there (or if it would have been put out on, oh I don't know, April Fools Day) then it would have been far better.

Rickroll has become the new All Your Base. It hit that when my local radio station did something with it on-air.

[SprainOgre]

Mine's not far off either, though I've got two years to your month. Freaks me out.

I'm actually pretty calm about mine. I'm more or less looking forward to it even.

I think building it along the same lines as the martial arts quality is a really great idea - you can start out as the nova hot pop star or be a lowly singer working her way through the meatgrinder that is the music industry. Or, you could go the NiN route and do all of your releases via the 'rix, slowly building a rep. Just be careful if you're a shadowrunner by "day" and a pop star by "night"...

Exactly. Or maybe even a burned out pop idol, who's taken to Shadowrunning.

So we should go with something like Positive Quality - Performance Arts (5/10/15/20/25 BP) and work from there?

Exactly, and you can take it multiple times for different disciplines (you're trying to branch your career). Now I'm going to be trying to figure out stats for media paths all afternoon.

Rickroll has become the new All Your Base. It hit that when my local radio station did something with it on-air.

I blame Anonymous of course. More curtains and dogs would certainly end this "Rickroll" thing...

[ravensmuse]

Exactly. Or maybe even a burned out pop idol, who's taken to Shadowrunning.

That settles it. First character I make to test these rules out, I'm making Britney Spears. She's lost everything - family, kids, wealth. Now she's trying to make a comeback after plastic surgery via the Matrix.

Damn you shadowrun!

Exactly, and you can take it multiple times for different disciplines (you're trying to branch your career). Now I'm going to be trying to figure out stats for media paths all afternoon.

Let's see: Acting, Singing, Dancing, Writing, Painting...

I know. I've been sitting here since I posted that thinking the exact same thing. Should we steal the spell creation skill (who's name escapes me atm) and rename it "Compose"? How influential can you allow? This is what I like about systems with simple bases - you can extrapolate without making entirely new systems to do what you want.

[paws2sky]

Not OT for the immediate disscussion, but this Lord Ben's Iron GM Challenge did challenge GM's to come up with an adventure that included, among other things, a musician/band/etc.

Maybe some adventure ideas could be skimmed from there?

-paws

[SprainOgre]

That settles it. First character I make to test these rules out, I'm making Britney Spears. She's lost everything - family, kids, wealth. Now she's trying to make a comeback after plastic surgery via the Matrix.

Damn you shadowrun!

But how did she afford the Leonization? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/question.gif)

Let's see: Acting, Singing, Dancing, Writing, Painting...

I know. I've been sitting here since I posted that thinking the exact same thing. Should we steal the spell creation skill (who's name escapes me atm) and rename it "Compose"? How influential can you allow? This is what I like about systems with simple bases - you can extrapolate without making entirely new systems to do what you want.

I'd also add Media to that (for the voice of the nation news sort, although that could be an acting skill...) and Media Darling (no real talent other then being able to catch and hold the spot light longer then they should), and if you're willing to change the name (and theme) of the ability a little bit, trees like Politico and Lobbyist. The positive quality becomes something more like Influential Personality at that point though.

[ravensmuse]

But how did she afford the Leonization? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/question.gif)

Would it make you happier if I said Britney Spears-esque? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'd also add Media to that (for the voice of the nation news sort, although that could be an acting skill...) and Media Darling (no real talent other then being able to catch and hold the spot light longer then they should), and if you're willing to change the name (and theme) of the ability a little bit, trees like Politico and Lobbyist. The positive quality becomes something more like Influential Personality at that point though.

First off, I like the "Influential Personality" for the Positive Quality name. It gets across what we're going for here.

Second, I love "Media Darling", because it allows for characters like Paris Hilton or Kim Cardassian, people who are famous for being famous. You know what I mean?

So here's a few of the "disciplines" I was thinking over today:

Artist - Your creations are inspiring and they make people think. You're usually a low key celebrity - you're not in the direct spotlight often - but that's because you let your creations speak for you.

Media Darling - Hey, what can I say? The spotlight loves you. You've done something right, anyhow, because people fall over themselves any time you're in the news for a sex scandal, an appearance, even if you're just shilling for whoever's decided to use your fame for their purpose. You know how to manipulate the media in such a way that no matter the story, you look good.

Musician - Music is life. You're the pop idol belting out Top 40 hits for the nuyen or an Ork rapper spittin' out rhymes about the Barrens. Either way, your music inspires the crowd to the greatest heights and the lowest lows. *shrug* No one's saying you gotta be a crusader though, and the benefits off being famous sure are good...

Orator - Your voice is your weapon, and you're damn skilled in its use. When you speak, people pay attention, but some charisma (or a pretty face) will help you go a lot farther...

What I like about these is that I can see multiple uses for them as not only character tweaks, but roleplaying add-ons as well. Take artist, for example; you could play a hacker who's programs are so awesome half the 'rix breaks when you release your next opus. Orator can cover everyone from the Fire & Brimstone preacher to a news reporter entrenched deep in the Yucatan. Hell, Media Darling could cover someone like Perez Hilton...

Now to figure out the "maneuvers"....