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[Stahlseele]

should be technically possible, because he paid essence for the limb where the thing is in and he paid essence for the image link . . so he paid double O.o

[IC-Pick]

Now the fun question: Can a mage use that sensory input for targeting spells?(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I would definitely say yes. the visual sensor would be paid for in essence and would still be internal to his body.

[Fortune]

The book specifically lists individual cybereyes that can be installed in limbs (among other unusual places). I would not allow the eye stuff to be (effectively) implanted with out the actual eye.

[Stahlseele]

but drone-hands come with sensors and at least one camera in the middle finger . . and i don't think that would change when they are attached so yu have a hand full of sensory input and one camera and as long as you lug it around on your arm it counts as a limb not as a drone so you would have the hand with the cam without an eye in there . .

[DTFarstar]

Just to point out, the brain is generally a really bad place to inject stuff directly. There is a barrier(the blood brain barrier actually) that only allows a very specific few things to cross into the actual brain. Most OTC drugs, especially homeopathic stuff- especially infomercial stuff, are not included in that list and thus cannot get in the brain to where they would affect anything even if they are the correct hormone/whatever. Also, this is in place for a reason. You do not want BetaMeth in your actual brain.

Chris

[Kerberos]

Just to point out, the brain is generally a really bad place to inject stuff directly. There is a barrier(the blood brain barrier actually) that only allows a very specific few things to cross into the actual brain. Most OTC drugs, especially homeopathic stuff- especially infomercial stuff, are not included in that list and thus cannot get in the brain to where they would affect anything even if they are the correct hormone/whatever. Also, this is in place for a reason. You do not want BetaMeth in your actual brain.

Chris

Actually it's entirely safe to inject homeopathic stuff pretty much anywhere, because it's - well, water.

[Earlydawn]

Going back to the Cybereye question, doesn't the description of vision enhancement on Pg. 324 imply that electronic enhancement doesn't work for the purposes of spellcasting? Similarly, dosen't that also imply that a cybereye for a mage, despite the essence bit, would have to be something closer to a mechanical multi-lens system, as opposed to a digitally filtered eye, making low-light and such unusable?

[Rasumichin]

Going back to the Cybereye question, doesn't the description of vision enhancement on Pg. 324 imply that electronic enhancement doesn't work for the purposes of spellcasting? Similarly, dosen't that also imply that a cybereye for a mage, despite the essence bit, would have to be something closer to a mechanical multi-lens system, as opposed to a digitally filtered eye, making low-light and such unusable?

This used to be true at least for the vision magnification part (which is why SSC's first cybereye vision magnification system included a bulkier, purely optical version for magicians).

Can't quite recall at the moment how this was in SR2-3, but in SR4, the only crucial point seems to be wether an electronic enhancement was payed for with essence or not.

For external stuff, though, you have to go all optical, like the magesight goggles and so on.

[Stahlseele]

in 3 there was optical and electronic magnification, only optical for 0,2Essence worked, not the electronic for 0,1Essence

[Rasumichin]

in 3 there was optical and electronic magnification, only optical for 0,2Essence worked, not the electronic for 0,1Essence

I'm glad that this has been fixed now.
It just doesn't make sense to me that you can use purely electronic low-light or thermographic vision if you have payed essence for it, but cannot use electronic magnification in your cybereyes.

The fact that there is no optical cybereye magnification available anymore in SR4 might also support that it just isn't necessary under current rules.