 A clearly absurd question: What do you do post-3K Karma? |
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 Apr 24 2008, 11:19 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 606 Joined: 14-April 08 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 15,884  |
So, looking over the character advancement rules, it looks like a non-Awakened character will max out - getting all skills to 6, and all Attributes to their maximums - at around 3,000 Karma, give or take 10%.
What happens next? Assuming someone survives that long, what would someone do with any remaining Karma? Save it up to re-buy Edge every time they hard-burn? |
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Apr 24 2008, 11:22 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,328 Joined: 28-November 05 From: Zuerich Member No.: 8,014 |
It's not so absurd, I think past groups of mine hit the 2K mark in SR3.
There's also qualities to buy, like martial arts, and edge is always a good investment for such people. |
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Apr 24 2008, 11:23 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 210 Joined: 6-January 06 Member No.: 8,137 |
QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ Apr 24 2008, 06:19 AM)  So, looking over the character advancement rules, it looks like a non-Awakened character will max out - getting all skills to 6, and all Attributes to their maximums - at around 3,000 Karma, give or take 10%. What happens next? Assuming someone survives that long, what would someone do with any remaining Karma? Save it up to re-buy Edge every time they hard-burn? Start buying positive qualities, you should be able to burn many hundred karma on exceptional attribute, exceptional skill, buying the skills and attributes up and so forth. You should also get genetic optimization for all attributes and buy them up further. |
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Apr 24 2008, 11:29 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 323 Joined: 17-November 06 From: 1984 Member No.: 9,891 |
If you seriously consider going for those numbers, everyone should roll with something magic.
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Apr 24 2008, 11:34 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
In my opinion, there is an endless list of Knowledge Skills, and it is impossible to max-out, or even dabble in every single one. That right there is an abundant field into which spare Karma should be sown.
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Apr 24 2008, 11:35 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 210 Joined: 6-January 06 Member No.: 8,137 |
Ohh and after you bought every other positive quality in the game, start lobying you GM to let you take Latent Awakening. Problem solved.
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Apr 24 2008, 11:35 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 606 Joined: 14-April 08 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 15,884 |
QUOTE (Kerberos @ Apr 24 2008, 12:35 PM) Ohh and after you bought every other positive quality in the game, start lobying you GM to let you take Latent Awakening. Problem solved. g'heh. |
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Apr 24 2008, 12:05 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
and don't forget magic, that's not capped and can go to the n'th degree
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Apr 24 2008, 12:22 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 24-May 03 Member No.: 4,629 |
QUOTE (Fortune @ Apr 24 2008, 11:34 AM) In my opinion, there is an endless list of Knowledge Skills, and it is impossible to max-out, or even dabble in every single one. That right there is an abundant field into which spare Karma should be sown. Well, heck, by the last count I know of, there were 6809 languages in the world (And 2190 have had teh Bible translasted into them), and Shadowrun has at least two more, so, if you want to be Mr Polyglot, you could work on dumping Karma into 3 levels of each language. That should keep you busy for a while, even if you're learning Biochemistry and Lepidopterlogy on the side. |
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Apr 24 2008, 03:39 PM
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Deus Absconditus Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 |
QUOTE (Fuchs @ Apr 24 2008, 04:22 AM) It's not so absurd, I think past groups of mine hit the 2K mark in SR3. There's also qualities to buy, like martial arts, and edge is always a good investment for such people. No, it's still absurd. Just because you handed out that much karma doesn't mean it's not ridiculous. I mean, if I painted myself blue and glued kittens to myself and then danced a polka, it wouldn't be made any less ridiculous if someone had already done it. |
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Apr 24 2008, 03:46 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 23-April 08 From: Ontario, New York Member No.: 15,921 |
QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Apr 24 2008, 08:22 AM) Well, heck, by the last count I know of, there were 6809 languages in the world (And 2190 have had teh Bible translasted into them), and Shadowrun has at least two more, so, if you want to be Mr Polyglot, you could work on dumping Karma into 3 levels of each language. That should keep you busy for a while, even if you're learning Biochemistry and Lepidopterlogy on the side. I am the wondrous wizard of Latin! I am a dervish of declension and a conjurer of conjugation, with a million hit points and maximum charisma! |
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Apr 24 2008, 03:48 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 497 Joined: 16-April 08 From: Alexandria, VA Member No.: 15,900 |
You retire those characters and start a new campaign because you've been playing that one too long (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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Apr 24 2008, 04:09 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,183 Joined: 5-December 07 From: Lower UCAS, along the border Member No.: 14,507 |
QUOTE (madmarvin @ Apr 24 2008, 11:46 AM) I am the wondrous wizard of Latin! I am a dervish of declension and a conjurer of conjugation, with a million hit points and maximum charisma! I vant to be Gygax! Ze level 27 Warrior Mage with a +5 Sword of... |
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Apr 24 2008, 04:28 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 497 Joined: 16-April 08 From: Alexandria, VA Member No.: 15,900 |
QUOTE (ravensmuse @ Apr 24 2008, 12:09 PM) I vant to be Gygax! Ze level 27 Warrior Mage with a +5 Sword of... Bah, I can't find a copy of the script and don't want to misquote the next line (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Still, that's ten points for using a good reference with a gaming context! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Apr 24 2008, 04:29 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 573 Joined: 6-March 08 Member No.: 15,746 |
QUOTE (Speed Wraith @ Apr 24 2008, 10:48 AM) You retire those characters and start a new campaign because you've been playing that one too long (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Indeed!! |
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Apr 24 2008, 04:45 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,183 Joined: 5-December 07 From: Lower UCAS, along the border Member No.: 14,507 |
QUOTE (Speed Wraith @ Apr 24 2008, 12:28 PM) Bah, I can't find a copy of the script and don't want to misquote the next line (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Still, that's ten points for using a good reference with a gaming context! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) That would be, "you get to be this guy!" "The furry footed burrower!?" One of my favorite episodes ever. Even my girlfriend quotes that one (well, actually her favorite is, "and candy starts spewiiiing out of its mouth!"). |
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Apr 24 2008, 04:53 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 497 Joined: 16-April 08 From: Alexandria, VA Member No.: 15,900 |
I pull out my trusty...mandolin!?
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Apr 24 2008, 04:53 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 946 Joined: 16-September 05 From: London Member No.: 7,753 |
QUOTE (HentaiZonga @ Apr 24 2008, 12:19 PM) What happens next? Assuming someone survives that long, what would someone do with any remaining Karma? What happens next depends on.. ..Why they are 'Running and putting risking death on a regular basis, since someone who's accumulated that much karma should also have accumulated the trappings of such a powerful Character already - money, contacts, gear, spells, etc. And, really, if they don't have any sort of longterm plan.. ..The whole question of what to do next becomes moot - they should continue to do exactly as they do now, and not develop. |
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Apr 24 2008, 05:14 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
It occurs to me that a character with 3000 Karma would have a Street Cred of 300 and a Public Awareness of 100. I reckon it'd be hard for her to get jobs and easy for her enemies to find and take care of her.
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Apr 24 2008, 05:17 PM
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Deus Absconditus Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 |
Yeah, but taken on the face of it, Street Cred and Public Awareness rules are patently broken and in need of severe GM handholding. I don't think anyone can credibly argue counter to that.
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Apr 24 2008, 05:22 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
At that point, it's time to write your memoirs, and sell it as "Fiction" to the Trid Studios!
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Apr 24 2008, 05:25 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Apr 24 2008, 12:22 PM) At that point, it's time to write your memoirs, and sell it as "Fiction" to the Trid Studios! Nah, nobody would buy it. Too unbelievable. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Apr 24 2008, 05:25 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 23-April 08 From: Ontario, New York Member No.: 15,921 |
QUOTE (Speed Wraith @ Apr 24 2008, 11:28 AM) Bah, I can't find a copy of the script and don't want to misquote the next line (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Still, that's ten points for using a good reference with a gaming context! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks. Read it and it just fit way to easily... |
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Apr 24 2008, 05:33 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Moon-Hawk @ Apr 24 2008, 12:25 PM) Nah, nobody would buy it. Too unbelievable. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Hense selling it as fiction. Even if it goes into the Bad B-Movie Trid shows, you'll still make enough to buy a new life. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Apr 24 2008, 06:50 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,300 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648 |
QUOTE (Speed Wraith @ Apr 24 2008, 04:53 PM) I pull out my trusty...mandolin!? Good that you mention it, when you have 3K+ karma, you can finally start buying all those Craft and Exotic Weapon skills. Finally, time to learn both playing mellotron and wielding the kusari-gama. |
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