Greenhorns in Seattle, The Out of Character Thread Options

[imperialus]

Re: Mickle's post: If you guys want to split the group feel free to do so. Keep in mind I've never dealt with a split group in a PbP before so we'll all be experimenting a bit. Would you rather run both simultaneously so everyone gets to post or run one, then rewind the clock and run the other one? It's up to you guys, I'm willing to try either. Of course if you want, we can keep the group together too.

Anyhow, I'll put up one more brief post to fast forward to January 2nd later tonight then post the next step tomorrow. I've got both Xanadu and Heaven roughed out so I'm good to go with either (or both) just let me know.

[imperialus]

feel free to keep planning IC guys. Just put "Sybercats van" in the tag line.

Loki: If you want Sybercat to spend the night invite her up.

[JoelHalpern]

Several scattered questions, none of them urgent.

1) Every time I try the BB Code Help button, the window comes up blank (and eventually gives me a timeout error. So far, there is nothing I have needed to do that cut and paste can't handle. Is there an actual page somewhere, other than the pop-up, that provides the BB Code help?

2) For raising Magic, when one has Cyberware, does one use the full purchased level or the reduced level. I have seen posts on the forum that seem to take it for granted that one uses the reduced level. (As ones maximum magic is also reduced, this question does not change the need for initiation at all.)

3) As far as I can tell, there is no provision for me quick-drawing knives (throwing or otherwise) unless I take the adept power. THe book rules call for using the pistol skil for quick draw.
3') When I ready throwing knives, I ready up to three of them, although I throw them one at a time.

[imperialus]

Several scattered questions, none of them urgent.

1) Every time I try the BB Code Help button, the window comes up blank (and eventually gives me a timeout error. So far, there is nothing I have needed to do that cut and paste can't handle. Is there an actual page somewhere, other than the pop-up, that provides the BB Code help?

hrm... http://www.bbcode.org/tags.php seems to have most the major ones covered.

2) For raising Magic, when one has Cyberware, does one use the full purchased level or the reduced level. I have seen posts on the forum that seem to take it for granted that one uses the reduced level. (As ones maximum magic is also reduced, this question does not change the need for initiation at all.)

Hopefully I don't over complicate this. When you initiate it raises your maximum magic attribute by 1. Cyberware lowers it by one. This means that say you have .5 essence worth of cyber and your maximum magic at chargen is 5. If you initiate it raises your 'natural' maximum magic to 7 and your augmented maximum to 6. If you have It does not actually get you that point of magic though. You still need to raise it using karma just like any other attribute. Also keep in mind however that since Mack's magic attribute is only 3(4) he can still improve it up to 5(6) without bothering to initiate at all.

3) As far as I can tell, there is no provision for me quick-drawing knives (throwing or otherwise) unless I take the adept power. THe book rules call for using the pistol skil for quick draw.
3') When I ready throwing knives, I ready up to three of them, although I throw them one at a time.

In the spirit of KISS I'll keep the rules the same. This means if you want to quickdraw an knife (or any melee weapon for that matter) and shank someone you roll Reaction+Blades with a threshold of 3. Quickdraw holsters are available for knives, it would be something like a spring loaded wrist sheath that pops the knife into your hand. If you want to quickdraw a knife and throw it roll Reaction+Throwing Weapons but the base threshold is 5 since throwing a knife requires more movement than pulling a trigger.

[imperialus]

One other thing I'll mention before I go to bed since it looks like you'll be visiting Xanadu tomorrow and I haven't seen this come up in the planning session yet. Keep in mind you'll need some sort of a reason or cover as to why you are there. Showing up and accusing Dynamo of involvement in Angel's death or shady dealings after the fact will probably not get you the red carpet treatment. Likewise showing up and telling the receptionist. "Oh, don't mind us, we're just checking the place out for when we come back later tonight." will get the Star called.

Your story doesn't have to be iron clad, none of us (I hope) are actually professional criminals so I'd just be looking for something remotely plausible. Even if it's a bit off the wall that's fine. I tend to look at plans more from a "Is this entertaining?" perspective than asking myself "Is this something professional criminals would do?" You can read a more detailed explaination of my approach to this here

[Dusty Ghost]

I'm considering running Emergence afterwards assuming no one has read it.

Heh! I haven't read it. would be interesting to run.

One of my biggest regrets is missing out on Renraku and Brainscan. I think this was the most interesting of times in the SR world and the story lines there were pure gold. I did not read Brainscan, but would love to have played it.

EDIT: Actually, never mind. I'm sure somebody else will, and I doubt I'll get much more information than them

Nigel, I think we all need to contact all the contacts we can, the police may have a report on his death, and your contact may be more forthcoming than a stranger policeman.

[JoelHalpern]

hrm... http://www.bbcode.org/tags.php seems to have most the major ones covered.

Hopefully I don't over complicate this. When you initiate it raises your maximum magic attribute by 1. Cyberware lowers it by one. This means that say you have .5 essence worth of cyber and your maximum magic at chargen is 5. If you initiate it raises your 'natural' maximum magic to 7 and your augmented maximum to 6. If you have It does not actually get you that point of magic though. You still need to raise it using karma just like any other attribute. Also keep in mind however that since Mack's magic attribute is only 3(4) he can still improve it up to 5(6) without bothering to initiate at all.

In the spirit of KISS I'll keep the rules the same. This means if you want to quickdraw an knife (or any melee weapon for that matter) and shank someone you roll Reaction+Blades with a threshold of 3. Quickdraw holsters are available for knives, it would be something like a spring loaded wrist sheath that pops the knife into your hand. If you want to quickdraw a knife and throw it roll Reaction+Throwing Weapons but the base threshold is 5 since throwing a knife requires more movement than pulling a trigger.

Thanks. The link works. That is helpful.

On the Magic improvement, the initiation you describe is exactly what I expected. The question I have is whether right now, for improving my magic from 3 (4) to 4(5) I pay 12 Karma or 15? I would have thought 15, but a lot of the discussion seems to assume it is only 12. (This matters more as I get more Cyber/Bio over time.)

Sounds like I will want to get a quick-draw sheath for my Survival / fighting knife, but not for the throwing knives. as even a threshold of 4 is pretty high.

Thanks,
Joel

[JoelHalpern]

When is it reasonable to spend karma?
At some point, I should spend 4 karma to buy the two specializations of throwing weapons ->throwing knives and blades->knives.
The rules suggest (and it seems reasonable) that this is normally done between adventures.
Also, they suggest a limit of one new skill or specialization per interval.

So I am assuming taht spending karma comes when we complete the job.

Thanks,
Joel

[imperialus]

So I am assuming taht spending karma comes when we complete the job.

Actually, because PbP's are so slow paced I'll allow Karma spending to improve skills every night. In other words you could take your specializations now if you wanted.

Keep in mind you can only improve skills that you already have in the course of the adventure. You cannot improve attributes, learn new skills, (unless you have already been using the skill untrained) or initiate during an adventure unless I specifically mention it in the OOC thread. This IMO strikes a balance between waiting 6-8 months before improving your character and me constantly needing to deal with changing statblocks.

[JoelHalpern]

Actually, because PbP's are so slow paced I'll allow Karma spending to improve skills every night. In other words you could take your specializations now if you wanted.

Thanks. Fair enough.
Mack will spend the 4 Karma (2 on Throwing Weapons Specializing in Throwing Knives, and 2 in Blades specializing in Knives.)

Joel

[imperialus]

Another discriptive post is up. Feel free to make any last minute plans en route, the Xanadu post itself will go up later today.

Edit: Also at this point it's usually more acceptable to ascribe some actions to other PC's. If you have an idea for how to get into Xanadu and no one else has spoken up yet feel free to do so and bring the other PC's onboard. If for example you want to pretend that you are a streetband and their agent you can assume that the other PC's have dressed the part and will act like musicians to the best of their abilities.

[imperialus]

aaand the next IC post is NOT up. Sorry.

[Dusty Ghost]

aaand the next IC post is up. Go nuts.

Arrggghh! I was still writting up my post for in the Van before we got there!

I take it that it's too late to talk in the van now?

[imperialus]

heck no... I'll delete that post and put it up after you get your's up. Actually I'll wait another 3 hours (6 pm ish MDT) before putting up Xanadu, give everyone some time to get their 2 cents in.

Sorry, I hate it when I jump the gun like that.

[Dusty Ghost]

LOL

No problem. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Dusty Ghost]

heck no... I'll delete that post and put it up after you get your's up. Actually I'll wait another 3 hours (6 pm ish MDT) before putting up Xanadu, give everyone some time to get their 2 cents in.

Sorry, I hate it when I jump the gun like that.

Is it not worth waiting a little longer? Timezones are a bugger to play over, and we are lucky to be at least close, but I think some of them are USA are they not? Some of them may only just be getting up? I could be wrong tell shut me up if you want. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Also poor Mickie may miss out on a chance to post. With his computer probs and all.

Though I understand we're nearly getting to the fun stuff. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Also, I need to contact my....er contacts, how do I declaire I wish to do this?

[imperialus]

Sure, I'll wait until everyone has posted (sans Mickie) or tomorrow morning (for me) whichever comes first.

If you want to reach your contacts:

Feel free to get in touch with your contacts too (though 11 at night might not be the best time to be phoning them). I'll try and keep contact facetime to a minimum so we don't end up with a page and a half of me going back and forth with one PC so if you want to, give me an etiquette roll, tell me their connection/loyalty rating, and give me a general sense of how you're approaching the contact (quick com-call, email, meet in a bar/restaurant/back ally ect.) in addition to the questions and I'll take it from there.

Right now a com-call or email would probably be your best bet.

[Dusty Ghost]

Cool,

Just edited my post to email my fixer.

[JoelHalpern]

Who / what are the Dissassemblers and the Tamanous? I have seen references to them in the forum.
I presume the role is Logic + relevant Knowledge (Seattle Street Gangs?)

[ Spoiler ]

Logic Street Gangs (1d6=3, 1d6=4, 1d6=6, 1d6=6, 1d6=5) 2 successes

[Nigel]

If I can also roll, I'd assume Logic + Seattle Underworld. Can I also add Street Rumors, or is it one or the other? If it's just Seattle Underworld, take off the last three. If just Street Rumors (I'd prefer this) take off the last 2.

[1,1,4,3,4,6,5,6,3,5] http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1597630/

[imperialus]

Well the Dissassemblers are a street gang, Tamanous is a bit higher on the food chain. But they're both pretty common knowledge just because of their infamy.

Tamanous is basically a bunch of organ leggers. They deal with scary black market shit. Typically it's ripped out of someone (sometimes still alive) and sold. If you're buying used ware, chances are it came through Tamanous, they have a virtual monopoly on the organ legging market just because all the other major syndicates find it distasteful.

The Dissassemblers are sort of Tamanous lite. They're the most common 'face' of Tamanous on the collection end at least. They mostly collect abandoned bodies, but are more than willing to make a few of their own if someone needs something special.

[imperialus]

And that's what happens when you fail a pair of etiquette tests. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/vegm.gif) Just be glad you didn't glitch.

http://failsalon.com/wp-content/uploads/20...eplant065qm.jpg

Oh, and I'll post Xanadu when I get up tomorrow.

*edit*I'm sorry... I shouldn't mock... Especially since it was me that did the rolling there. But just so you know I didn't deliberately keep re-rolling till you did fail here's a link

[Dusty Ghost]

Ouch! that's harsh!

Though it could have been worse with a glitch or critical!

imperialus:

Feel free to mock me if that happens. It's part of playing games like this. To smile and go "Awwww man!" at these kinds of results. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

EDIT: Ha ha ha ha! I just saw that picture! OW!!! that looks painful!

[Dusty Ghost]

YAY! I'm a happy bunny!!!

I thought seeing as I was attempting to learn the rules properly, I just purchased a Fifth reprint of SR4 hard back.

It's glossy and soooooo much nicer than the printed A4 ink jet version I had.

Not only that but the old ink jet print was version 1 without Errata (the printed version was not available back then, PDF only while the printers worked to get the paper version out.). So I had to write and glue bits into it! Looked a mess!

But this is sooooooo shinny! and colours look great! Mmmmmmmmmm!

[Seraph Kast]

Ouch, I do fail, haha. I was hoping for something there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)