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Chance359
post May 7 2008, 04:50 PM
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Just caught the trailer for Wanted, and figured that it would something that adepts would like.

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by spending a simple action, the adept is able to use a limited form of telekineses to make a bullet curve around an object and strike a stationary target thereby reducing the penalty for visibilty and blind fire.


Either that or its and advanced form of missile mastery with a geasa of must come out of a pistol.
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post May 7 2008, 06:03 PM
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I don't see how it would affect visibility or blind fire penalties, exactly. Cover penalties, yes, but you still have to know where they are.

And I think it would be more akin to the spell "deflection," just modified.
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post May 7 2008, 07:05 PM
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I have a suggestion for a new Adept Power; an enhancement to Small-Arms inteception techniques. I call it "Shoot the bullet".
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post May 7 2008, 07:56 PM
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I have to say that I'm big on keeping adepts as using magic self control. Magicians are outward focused, adepts are inward focused.
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post May 7 2008, 08:06 PM
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Gun adepts can already crank it up to "can't miss" by having upwards of 24 dice. Please don't give them any more. That would just take them from "can't miss after I pump up all my pools really high," to "can't miss right out of chargen yawn killing is really easy." This movie looks sweet, but it's only appropriate in a world that doesn't already have magic and cyber. In Shadowrun, the best I would use it for is as a flavor description for how a character's "enhance aim" spell works.
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post May 7 2008, 08:24 PM
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Also, the old Tir Na Nog SB had a "Morph-seeking rifle" in it. I imagine that it does pretty much what you're describing. But at the time, SR used the "Thou Shalt Not" hammer on it, and relegated it to NPCs who want to kill you.
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post May 7 2008, 08:32 PM
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This is obviously just a use of Centering to bypass penalties.
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post May 7 2008, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE (Larme @ May 7 2008, 04:06 PM) *
Gun adepts can already crank it up to "can't miss" by having upwards of 24 dice. Please don't give them any more. That would just take them from "can't miss after I pump up all my pools really high," to "can't miss right out of chargen yawn killing is really easy." This movie looks sweet, but it's only appropriate in a world that doesn't already have magic and cyber. In Shadowrun, the best I would use it for is as a flavor description for how a character's "enhance aim" spell works.



... got me thinking about a more cyber-punk version. What about a mortar/gyrojet weapon with a crazy complex fire control system that could pre-program a flight path into the rocket as it left the barrel. The turning radius would still be pretty large, but even pulling a U-turn over 3 city blocks to hit a target from an angle you aren't at would be crazy useful.
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post May 7 2008, 09:12 PM
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That could be doable. It wouldn't so much be a gun as a micro drone launcher, the drones are basically bullets with a brain and a self propulsion system, probably packed with explosives. Would be VERY expensive to fire...
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post May 7 2008, 09:17 PM
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See the Tom Selleck movie "Runaway" - a hitman uses a gyroget gun to do just that.

I mean, you don't HAVE to see it. It's not very good. But it does feature that kind of gun.
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post May 7 2008, 09:42 PM
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Not just any old hitman, but Gene Simmons himself! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post May 7 2008, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE (Larme @ May 7 2008, 05:12 PM) *
That could be doable. It wouldn't so much be a gun as a micro drone launcher, the drones are basically bullets with a brain and a self propulsion system, probably packed with explosives. Would be VERY expensive to fire...


Yes ordinance with a sensors and response rating to identify and home in on a target in real time would be exorbitant. What I was thinking (because it cool, else of an insta-win and takes a team) is that the launcher would calculate the flight path. It would then calculate how to animate the jacket/fin and pass the program to the rocket. This would require a lot of tactical data available, to make it work. The rockets would only need micro processors to exequte the program. I don't know how fast rockets go compared to bullets, but my understanding is that rockets are slower by and large. If the target is 500 meters away and your rocket can make 8 corrections a second, that's still easy 3 or 4 corrections at a descent range. Odds are such a system could hit targets at out crazy ranges.

The largest issue I can think of is the fact that I can't think of what to make the fins out of. Any ideas, even crazy SR tech?
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post May 7 2008, 11:56 PM
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Easier to simply have a flying drone shoot from another angle.
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post May 8 2008, 12:04 AM
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Don't all adept powers affect only themselves? I thought that was the point of an adept.
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post May 8 2008, 12:08 AM
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It's already been said, but this power isn't really appropriate for adepts. Adept magic is internal.
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post May 8 2008, 12:39 AM
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indeed, i guess thats why missile mastery only work for thrown items only, its something that adepts affect directly with their body.

on that note, have bullseye ever used guns? if not he is the prime example for a ranged attack focused adept.
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post May 8 2008, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE (Fuchs @ May 7 2008, 07:56 PM) *
Easier to simply have a flying drone shoot from another angle.



SSSsSSSHHhHhhHhHhhhh.....

Micro Homing rockets with tac data are so totally awesome they have to be practical. srly

... I'll drop it *sigh*
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post May 8 2008, 01:16 AM
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The suggested power is too cinematic for me. But here's a good question - why would you want Curve The Bullet, when you could just take Enhanced Ability, making you more likely to hit under all conditions, instead of just vs. cover modifiers?
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post May 8 2008, 01:38 AM
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btw, cover? what cover? *pulls out a ares thunderstruck gauss rifle*
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post May 8 2008, 01:45 AM
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I think I'd rather chew on glass than see this movie...
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post May 8 2008, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE (Aaron @ May 8 2008, 10:04 AM) *
Don't all adept powers affect only themselves? I thought that was the point of an adept.


All except for the totally inane Distance Strike.
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post May 8 2008, 01:48 AM
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It does seem a bit derivative of Jumper, which had an excellent concept (at least superficially) but terrible execution. I hope it's good.

If this was more self-affecting, I'd love it for an Adept power. Maybe some sort of gun, as others have suggested? It'd be expensive to be sure, but so awesome...
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post May 8 2008, 01:56 AM
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QUOTE (Fortune @ May 8 2008, 03:48 AM) *
All except for the totally inane Distance Strike.



isnt the a real life "martial art" that claims a similar ability?
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post May 8 2008, 02:02 AM
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What? Throw a punch across 6+ meters of empty space (without actually ever touching your opponent)? Really? Which Martial Art teaches that?
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post May 8 2008, 02:07 AM
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QUOTE (Fortune @ May 8 2008, 04:02 AM) *
What? Throw a punch across 6+ meters of empty space (without actually ever touching your opponent)? Really? Which Martial Art teaches that?



hell if i recall the name, but i bumped into it on some show that was investigating claims of paranormal abilities.

the master and apprentice was located in different buildings, hooked up to eeg and similar. the master would then perform a attack, and the apprentice would react as if hit by said attack.
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