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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 993 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 313 ![]() |
Just caught the trailer for Wanted, and figured that it would something that adepts would like.
Wanted Trailers by spending a simple action, the adept is able to use a limited form of telekineses to make a bullet curve around an object and strike a stationary target thereby reducing the penalty for visibilty and blind fire. Either that or its and advanced form of missile mastery with a geasa of must come out of a pistol. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 830 Joined: 3-April 04 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 6,215 ![]() |
I don't see how it would affect visibility or blind fire penalties, exactly. Cover penalties, yes, but you still have to know where they are.
And I think it would be more akin to the spell "deflection," just modified. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,263 Joined: 4-March 08 From: Blighty Member No.: 15,736 ![]() |
I have a suggestion for a new Adept Power; an enhancement to Small-Arms inteception techniques. I call it "Shoot the bullet".
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,069 Joined: 19-July 07 From: Oakland CA Member No.: 12,309 ![]() |
I have to say that I'm big on keeping adepts as using magic self control. Magicians are outward focused, adepts are inward focused.
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,653 Joined: 22-January 08 Member No.: 15,430 ![]() |
Gun adepts can already crank it up to "can't miss" by having upwards of 24 dice. Please don't give them any more. That would just take them from "can't miss after I pump up all my pools really high," to "can't miss right out of chargen yawn killing is really easy." This movie looks sweet, but it's only appropriate in a world that doesn't already have magic and cyber. In Shadowrun, the best I would use it for is as a flavor description for how a character's "enhance aim" spell works.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 830 Joined: 3-April 04 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 6,215 ![]() |
Also, the old Tir Na Nog SB had a "Morph-seeking rifle" in it. I imagine that it does pretty much what you're describing. But at the time, SR used the "Thou Shalt Not" hammer on it, and relegated it to NPCs who want to kill you.
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Deus Absconditus ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 ![]() |
This is obviously just a use of Centering to bypass penalties.
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,069 Joined: 19-July 07 From: Oakland CA Member No.: 12,309 ![]() |
Gun adepts can already crank it up to "can't miss" by having upwards of 24 dice. Please don't give them any more. That would just take them from "can't miss after I pump up all my pools really high," to "can't miss right out of chargen yawn killing is really easy." This movie looks sweet, but it's only appropriate in a world that doesn't already have magic and cyber. In Shadowrun, the best I would use it for is as a flavor description for how a character's "enhance aim" spell works. ... got me thinking about a more cyber-punk version. What about a mortar/gyrojet weapon with a crazy complex fire control system that could pre-program a flight path into the rocket as it left the barrel. The turning radius would still be pretty large, but even pulling a U-turn over 3 city blocks to hit a target from an angle you aren't at would be crazy useful. |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,653 Joined: 22-January 08 Member No.: 15,430 ![]() |
That could be doable. It wouldn't so much be a gun as a micro drone launcher, the drones are basically bullets with a brain and a self propulsion system, probably packed with explosives. Would be VERY expensive to fire...
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Deus Absconditus ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 ![]() |
See the Tom Selleck movie "Runaway" - a hitman uses a gyroget gun to do just that.
I mean, you don't HAVE to see it. It's not very good. But it does feature that kind of gun. |
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 ![]() |
Not just any old hitman, but Gene Simmons himself! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,069 Joined: 19-July 07 From: Oakland CA Member No.: 12,309 ![]() |
That could be doable. It wouldn't so much be a gun as a micro drone launcher, the drones are basically bullets with a brain and a self propulsion system, probably packed with explosives. Would be VERY expensive to fire... Yes ordinance with a sensors and response rating to identify and home in on a target in real time would be exorbitant. What I was thinking (because it cool, else of an insta-win and takes a team) is that the launcher would calculate the flight path. It would then calculate how to animate the jacket/fin and pass the program to the rocket. This would require a lot of tactical data available, to make it work. The rockets would only need micro processors to exequte the program. I don't know how fast rockets go compared to bullets, but my understanding is that rockets are slower by and large. If the target is 500 meters away and your rocket can make 8 corrections a second, that's still easy 3 or 4 corrections at a descent range. Odds are such a system could hit targets at out crazy ranges. The largest issue I can think of is the fact that I can't think of what to make the fins out of. Any ideas, even crazy SR tech? |
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,328 Joined: 28-November 05 From: Zuerich Member No.: 8,014 ![]() |
Easier to simply have a flying drone shoot from another angle.
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Mr. Johnson ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 ![]() |
Don't all adept powers affect only themselves? I thought that was the point of an adept.
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 16-June 07 Member No.: 11,924 ![]() |
It's already been said, but this power isn't really appropriate for adepts. Adept magic is internal.
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panda! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 ![]() |
indeed, i guess thats why missile mastery only work for thrown items only, its something that adepts affect directly with their body.
on that note, have bullseye ever used guns? if not he is the prime example for a ranged attack focused adept. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,069 Joined: 19-July 07 From: Oakland CA Member No.: 12,309 ![]() |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 932 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 1,042 ![]() |
The suggested power is too cinematic for me. But here's a good question - why would you want Curve The Bullet, when you could just take Enhanced Ability, making you more likely to hit under all conditions, instead of just vs. cover modifiers?
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panda! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 ![]() |
btw, cover? what cover? *pulls out a ares thunderstruck gauss rifle*
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Street Doc ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 ![]() |
I think I'd rather chew on glass than see this movie...
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 ![]() |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 199 Joined: 27-April 08 Member No.: 15,932 ![]() |
It does seem a bit derivative of Jumper, which had an excellent concept (at least superficially) but terrible execution. I hope it's good.
If this was more self-affecting, I'd love it for an Adept power. Maybe some sort of gun, as others have suggested? It'd be expensive to be sure, but so awesome... |
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panda! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 ![]() |
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 ![]() |
What? Throw a punch across 6+ meters of empty space (without actually ever touching your opponent)? Really? Which Martial Art teaches that?
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panda! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 ![]() |
What? Throw a punch across 6+ meters of empty space (without actually ever touching your opponent)? Really? Which Martial Art teaches that? hell if i recall the name, but i bumped into it on some show that was investigating claims of paranormal abilities. the master and apprentice was located in different buildings, hooked up to eeg and similar. the master would then perform a attack, and the apprentice would react as if hit by said attack. |
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