Recruiting: Deep Water Blackout Options

[BlackHat]

Feel free to donate a point for $5000 worth of explosives. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Well, I've definitely already spent 50BP on gear, so the left over 9 need to go somewhere else.
Busy couple of days, but I will try to have things finalized by the end of the day (gear might take a little bit after boat details are posted).

[Method]

Ok sorry for the delay:

Blohm & Voss Wellenkraft 3 (Small Cargo Ship): Measuring about 75 meters in length the Wellenkraft 3 is a sturdy ocean-going vessel that is popular with smaller shipping operations all over the world. It has seen an up swing in popularity in recent years with the advent of desk-top manufacturing and smaller “micro-industry� factories that have reduced the demand for large-scale shipping. It is also popular with some pirates and smugglers who use heavily modified Wellenkrafts as mobile bases of operation.

Standard Upgrades: Improved Amenities (Middle x 12), Satellite Communication, Heavy Winch (non-canon and really big)
Suggested for the Odyssey: Extra Entry/Exit Points (Moon pool)

B&V Wellenkraft 3 (Cargo)
H: -1
Ac: 10/20
Sp: 40
P: 1
B: 25
Ar: 10
Sn: 2
Av: 8
$: 200,000 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif)

Now the question becomes what to do with it. We could say that Carter owns ship and then BlackHat could use the cash he spent on his boat to modify this one. Otherwise you guys could take up a BP collection to raise some cash for modifications.

As far as lifestyles: Individual players could choose whether they want to reside on the ship or maintain a residence at port. If you live on ship your lifestyle costs go toward the upkeep and port costs for the ship, and you can pay more to represent special luxuries you've brought on board.

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crizh: The custom vessels sound pretty cool. I'll have to review the rules.

[pragma]

Here' s a mostly complete, failry playable version. Background could use a little sprucing up and skills and gear still need a little fiddling. Contacts being fleshed out.

[ Spoiler ]

Name: Guy Freebird, formerly Doug Sargas
Matrix Handle: Hang10

Race: Human (-0 Pts.)

Qualities
- Sinner +5
- Aikido +1 on Full Defense -5

Attributes: (-200 Pts.)

B 3 -20
A 3 -20
R 3(4) -20
S 2 -10

C 3 -20
I 4 -30
L 5 -40
W 5 -40

Special Attributes: (-10 Pts.)

Mag -
Ess 6
Edg 3
Init 7((IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
IP 1(2)

Skills: (-200 pt)
Electronics gp. 4 -40
Hacking 6 -24
Electronic Warfare (comm.) 4 -18
Cybercombat 4 -16
Athletics gp. 1 -10
Survival (maritime) 2(4) -10
Navigation (maritime) 2(4) -10
Influence gp. 2 -20
Diving 3 -12
Pistols 3 -12
Dodge 3 -12
Perception 4 -16
Biotech gp. 2 -10

Knowledge: (-0 pts.)
Los Angeles 2 Street
Salvage Operations 1 Prof.
History (Maritime) 3 Acad.
Mathematics (comm. theory) 6((IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Acad.
Security Procesdures (matrix) 2(4) Prof.
Surfing 2 Int.
Naval Architecture 3 Prof. (How boats are put together)
World Ports 2 Street.
Sonar Sources 2 Prof. (Some experience with sonar)
Physics (E+M Theory) 2(4)
English N Language

Resources (215K) (-43 Pts.)

Encephalon 2 -75000 -1.5
Math SPU - -4500 -0.15
Wired Reflexes 1 -11000 -2
Implanted Comm. - -2000+ -0.2
Cybereyes 3 -1000 -.4
- Smartlink -1000 [3]
- Eye Lights -750 [2]
- Low Light -1000 [2]
- Vis. Mag. -1000 [2]
- Vis. Enh. -4500 [3]

101.75K to here (-4.25 ess)

All common programs at 6 -4200
All hacking programs at 6 -78000
- no Blackout
Rating 3 Agent -3000

187.75K

Rating 6 System 3K
Rating 6 Firewall 3K
Rating 5(6) Response 4((IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) K
Rating 5(6) Signal 1(3)K

198.75K (204.75K)

205K - 250 [5.5 if building]

Taurus Multi-6 200
Colt Government 2066 500
Yamaha Pulsar 150
Armor Vest (6/4) 600
Hardware Kit 500
Monofilament Chainsaw 300
Miniwelder 250
Survival Kit 100
Flashlight 25
15 light sticks 75
Bolt Cutters 25
Diving Armor 1750
OXSYS GIll 1000

(5K - 75)

Passive sonar 6 1200
- handheld
Active sonar 6 1200
- handheld
UWB Radar 4 2000
Cyberware Scanner 6 450
- handheld
NLJD 6 600
- handheld

(5K + 450)

10.125 K

Rating 3 Fake SIN
Medium Lifestyle (on boat)

5K

want:
(Tag Eraser, Autopicker, Jammer/Smart Jammer, Ammo, Water Gun?, alpha wires, medikit, minisub drone, satlink, laser link, bump to Fake SIN)

Now all points spent, 125 nuyen over, still waiting on response/signal
(5 BP for the rest of the gear!)

Contacts: (-8 BP + 12 Free)
Working on it.


Backstory
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Guy was born as Doug Sargas to a opulent, middle-class family in Southern California. He had a largely healthy and sucessful childhood in spite of being an only child and was reasonably educated at a number of excellent facilities. He retains fond memories of his Youth, carefree time spent on beaches, surfing and exploring the hidden treasures of the ocean. He headed to college at the still-standing CFSD.

There he discovered a passion for history, art, mathematics, computers and most importantly, for Emily Raven, an Amerind exchange student. The two were as star-crossed and star-struck as couples come and married as soon as they had degrees in hand.

The couple moved back to LA to accomodate Emily's job at Horizon. Doug took up a software job at a startup which did some clever work with matrix security and wireless communications. The company paid for much of Doug's cyberware and computer equipment. It was a happy five years.

The crash of 2064 was bad. Doug's father suffered an unexpected heart attack in the week prior. Doug was with his grieving mother when his wife and child died in a hit-and-run car accident. The crash left him stranded at an airport halfway between the two parts of his family as the world tore itself apart when the matrix crashed. Both mother and wife were missing by the time he was mobile again.

He tried going back to work, but financial backing was somewhat lacking and most of the software the company had developed was gone. As a professional engineer with wireless experience, Doug was a hot commodity especially to NeoNet and recruiters were hot on his heels. However, Doug had a vague mistrust of corporations, suspecting Horizon was somehow responsible for the death of his wife, and more importantly Doug needed to get away from everything.

He went to the sea and looked for work. He immediately stumbled across Joseph Carter who was in the process of gearing up for a salvage operation and was in deperate need of someone to keep his network secure. Doug fit the bill. After just a few more salvage operations, some with Carter and some with others, Doug changed his name - legally - to Guy Freebird in an attempt to shed association with his former life.

He has worked for many salvage operators and even some land based companies in the years he's spent in the shadows. His long history with Carter has led to continuing employment and a friendly relationship. Guy's also developed something of a niche role as an underwater signals integrity and analysis guru. For folks who need complicated electronics underwater, he's the man to go to. Needless to say, the territory of treasure hunting has taught Guy how to take care of himself.

He's been living a wild reincarnation of his youth ever since, looking for the big score that will let him make sense of his life. He hasn't found it yet and he gets a little older and a little slower every day. It's an open question whether his career will catch up to him before he finds peace.

[BlackHat]

Now the question becomes what to do with it. We could say that Carter owns ship and then BlackHat could use the cash he spent on his boat to modify this one. Otherwise you guys could take up a BP collection to raise some cash for modifications.

I'm cool with whatever the team decides. As far as your comment about extra exit/entry points (moon pool) would that be sufficient to store the Odyssey inside this vessel? or just necessary to drive a vehicle in (since the normal exit/entry points are for people, and I would have to also use up storage room to make enough space for a fishing boat? I think the rule of thumb they give in arsenal for storage space is 1 modification point worth of space for every 4 points of body (so a body 16 boat would need 4 points of space in a larger vessel). Since those points don't cost anything, and only limit the amount of modifications you can still fit on the larger vessel, it is fine by me.

Did anyone else want any particular mods on our group ship?

[crizh]

A Mage Sight Fibre Optic Security System might be useful...

(Arsenal p66)

[BlackHat]

Good call, actually. Were anything to go down on the ship, if its 75 meters long, it could take a while for us to get there. Having our mage able to see all over the place from the security room might be helpful.

[Method]

Sorry. I was assuming that if Carter were to captain the ship it would be called the Odyssey per your background. My mistake. If you choose to keep your own boat the ship will need another name.

I was thinking the moon pool would be handy for launching and recovering minisubs, divers, diving drones, etc. As far as storing the Odyssey on the ship, it could certainly be done, or you could tow it. Towing it might be handy because I could imagine loading and unloading a Body 16 boat might be quite an operation whereas if were towed you could just push off and run about in the smaller boat as needed. Its entirely up to the team though (and up to you whether you want to keep the smaller boat or not).

[BlackHat]

Ah, I see. Yeah, either way. I basically don't want to claim the $200,000 ship without other people's buy in.
If its the case that its a team ship, we could give it a name, and Carter might keep his old ship (with some different modifications) - because there are times where that might be more useful. Another idea would be to say that he ditched his old ship when he was trying to fall off of the map, and just invest that money into some drones or minisubs or something for this ship.

Suggestions welcome from the team

[Method]

Alright, I am getting ready to head out of town for the weekend. I don't know if I'll be able to connect from the hotel, so this could be my last post until Sunday. In the meantime please feel free to discuss your characters and finalize backgrounds. Story elements are more important than numbers- I'll allow minor tweeks to stats until we get a few weeks into the game.

You guys can decide how best to use the ship amongst yourselves and what mods are essential. If no one replies with any input I'm going to leave it up to Captain Carter (i.e.- BlackHat).

If everything is hammered down by Sunday I'll throw up the IC/OoC threads on Monday. If people are still uncertain about their characters we can always take another few days, but they all look pretty close to completion. Let me know.

[TheOneRonin]

Here is a post I put up over on the main board about explosives.

OneRonin: I reread the rules for breaching/cutting and I think you're right- there is something a little off about the amount of standard explosives.

Have you done the calculations using the linear cutting charges? Maybe the rules were written with those in mind, though it seems odd that cutting charges are always considered untamped. When you read the description of the cutting charges it sound like they have built in tamping (the angled iron that "focuses the explosive blast onto the line to be cut"). Anyway that -5 AP will make some difference, but not enough to correct the massive amounts of explosives you need for cutting. Doesn't make much sense.

One thing I noticed was the note about rubble obscuring up to half of the hole you create with breaching. It gives the impression that breaching is a really messy affair, but cutting has no such rule. Maybe that is one distinct advantage to cutting but I don't know if thats worth the extra explosives either.

As far as the rules in Arsenal superseding the rules in the BBB- my interpretation was that the multiplier from the Positioning Table on page 90 basically replaces the "DV x 2 against barriers" from the BBB. In other words the BBB assumes that all charges are placed "Higher above ground than hole radius, untamped" (x2) for the sake of simplicity.

How about this? Let's treat linear cutting charge DV just like breaching DV, and assume that they automatically get the x3 DV multiplier for being above the ground and tamped. So we end up with the following math:

The DV formula for cutting is: (sqrt of kilos/meter)*(Rating of explosives) *(DV multiplier for above ground + tamped)
We also get 1 additional AP per net hit made on the demo extended test (assume no net hits, so no extra AP)
Base AP for Linear Cutting Charges is -5 AP

So the lowest rating linear cutting charge you can get is rating 4. And there is 1kg of explosives per meter.

So we have: (1)*(4)*(3) = 12DV. Our sec door has Armor 8 and Structure 9. With the -5AP from using a linear cutting charge, the door doesn't have enough dice to buy any hits, and our 12DV is more than enough to cut it. Of course, we do end up using 4kg of explosives, but that's not too bad.

If the cutting charges only had .56kg of explosives per meter, then we would come out RIGHT at 9DV. And we do it with a little over 2kg of explosives rather than 4. I could live with that.

So here are some sample numbers for cutting when using the 1kg linear cutting charges from arsenal, and assuming the x3 DV:


Heavy Material: Armor: 6 Struct: 7
Example: hardwood, dataterm, lightpost, chain link
*Rating 4 charges will do the job easily


Reinforced Material: Armor: 8 Struct: 9
Example: densiplast, security door, armored glass, Kevlar wallboard
*Rating 4 charges will do the job easily


Structural Material: Armor: 12 Struct: 11
Example: brick, plascrete
*Rating 4 with just barely do the job. 4 or more net hits on your demo test will guarantee it.


Heavy Structural Material: Armor: 16 Struct: 13
Example: concrete, metal beam
*Rating 5 will just barely do the job. 4 or more net hits on your demo test will guarantee it.


Armored/Reinforced Material: Armor: 24 Struct: 15
Example: reinforced concrete
*Rating 6 will work only if you get 4 or more hits on your demo test. Otherwise, you will need rating 7.


Hardened Material: Armor: 32+ Struct: 17+
Example: blast bunkers
*Rating 8 will work only if you get 4 or more hits on your demo test. Otherwise you will need rating 9.



That works for me.

[pragma]

I've 4-5 BP available for the bigger boat if we decide we want it. I think including rating 10 ECM would be nice. The electronic warfare specialist on the boat could probably put it to good use.

It is unclear to me whether method intended for us to buy the B&V boat he offered us or if it was a gift to the team. Knowing whether we have to scrounge up 40 BP between us for the thing would be nice.

Also, finally done.

[ Spoiler ]

Name: Guy Freebird, formerly Doug Sargas
Matrix Handle: Hang10

Race: Human (-0 Pts.)

Qualities
- Sinner +5
- Aikido +1 on Full Defense -5
-evasion

Attributes: (-200 Pts.)

B 3 -20
A 3 -20
R 3(4) -20
S 2 -10

C 3 -20
I 4 -30
L 5 -40
W 5 -40

Special Attributes: (-10 Pts.)

Mag -
Ess 6
Edg 3
Init 7((IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
IP 1(2)

Skills: (-200 pt)
Electronics gp. 4 -40
Hacking 4 -24
Electronic Warfare (comm.) 6 -18
Cybercombat 4 -16
Athletics gp. 1 -10
Survival (maritime) 2(4) -10
Navigation (maritime) 2(4) -10
Influence gp. 2 -20
Diving 3 -12
Automatics 3 -12
Dodge 3 -12
Perception 4 -16
Biotech gp. 2 -20

Knowledge: (-0 pts.)
Los Angeles 2 Street
Salvage Operations 1 Prof.
History (Maritime) 3 Acad.
Mathematics (comm. theory) 6((IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Acad.
Security Procesdures (matrix) 2(4) Prof.
Surfing 2 Int.
Naval Architecture 3 Prof. (How boats are put together)
World Ports 2 Street.
Sonar Sources 2 Prof. (Some experience with sonar)
Physics (E+M Theory) 2(4) Acad.
English N Language

Resources (225K+15K) (-48 Pts.)

Encephalon 2 -75000 -1.5
Math SPU - -4500 -0.15
Wired Reflexes 1 -11000 -2
Implanted Comm. - -2000+ -0.2
Cybereyes 3 -1000 -.4
- Smartlink -1000 [3]
- Eye Lights -750 [2]
- Low Light -1000 [2]
- Vis. Mag. -1000 [2]
- Vis. Enh. -4500 [3]
--
PuSHeD -15000 .1 +15K

101.75K to here (-4.35 ess)

All common programs at 6 -4200
All hacking programs at 6 -78000
- no Blackout
Rating 3 Agent -3000

187.75K

Rating 6 System 3K
Rating 6 Firewall 3K
Rating 5(6) Response 4((IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) K - paid 4K for building
Rating 5(6) Signal 1(3)K - paid 1.5K for building

198.75K (204.75K) - 199.25K is final

205K - 250 [5.5 if building] - 200K - 750

M24A3 Water Carbine 1200
-External Top Smartgun 400
-Gas-Vent 3 400
-Underbarrel Weight 75
-Folding Stock 150
Ares Crusader 700
-Underbarrel Weight 75
-Smartgun, External 400
-Folding Stock 150
-Sound Suppressor 300
-Concealable Holster 100
60 regular ammo M24A3 120
30 stick&shock M24A3 240
80 Crusader Ammo 160
40 Gel stick&shock 120
Armor Vest (6/4) 600
Diving Armor (5/4) 1750

Hardware Kit 500
Monofilament Chainsaw 300
Miniwelder 250
Survival Kit 100
Flashlight 25
15 light sticks 75
Bolt Cutters 25
OXSYS Artificial Gill 1000
Diving Light 25 +25

Passive sonar 6 1200
- handheld
Active sonar 6 1200
- handheld
UWB Radar 4 2000
Cyberware Scanner 6 450
- handheld
NLJD 6 600
- handheld

Rating 4 Fake SIN
Medium Lifestyle (on boat)

Smart Area Jammer Rtg. 4 4000
Medkit 6 600
- 2 spare supplies 100
MAD Scanner 3 225 (add the -75 here?)
Satellite Link 500
Skinlink 50
Extreme Env. Mod (Water) x7 700
Ultrasound Camera 1200

Contacts: (-2 BP + 12 Free)
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Black Jack - C2/L2
A gregarious pirate who who runs up and down the Western seaboard of the United States smuggling, pirating, fighting and drinking as he pleases. Black Jack specializes in knowing someone in every port avaialble. Whether or not he's on good terms with his associates there is up in the air. His vessel, the peregrine, is decked out with an impressive antenna and a ramming spike. He and his crew use electronic warfare to ambush their prey. Guy has found some employment manning and uprgrading the sensor tower, though he feels some guilt about the blatant thievery and murder that he's helping to commit. The two exchange favors and introductions freely, each acting as a business network for the other. In addition, the two have contracted each other's services in the past. Black Jack is almost invariably aboard his ship which is available by satellite uplink most of the time.

Big Dog - C3/L2
A friendly Amerind troll who works as a part time fixer in Seattle. Big Dog has an exceptional knack for setting up safe meetings/deals/exchanges/safehouses and dropoff points and also has a striking memory for names and favorite drinks. He's rapidly risen the rungs of Seattle's shadow ladder and set up shop as one of the premier dealers in smuggled goods and smugglers in the city. Guy's unique technical knowledge has proved useful analyzing a few packages that fell off boats and the troll hit it off with the hacker. The two retain a fairly standard cash for services relationship. Big Dog always has a hacker watching a node that he very carefully maintains for business purposes and the troll is comfortable with some degree of electronic communication, though he prefers face to face meets. If meeting in Seattle, he likes dragging potential clients out into the sticks of Puyallup to guarantee that they're firmly on his turf.

Fitz - C2/L1
A dealer in electronics based out of LA, this neurotic ork embodies every stereotype of the nerd imaginable from the large glasses to the rail-thin frame to the pasty skin. The rumor mill suggests that he's alternately a burned out runner mage or a badass street sam who got crossed by one too many corporations. Whatever the truth is, he now buys and sells electronics of all types from his basement apartment. He's too little of a threat and keeps small enough stock on hand to be robbed or killed. He does have an encyclopedic knowledge of his product and a knack for moving odd requests into or out of the market on short notice (though he charges stiff fees in this case.) The custom commlink and many of the sensors that Guy sports came from this dealer and he retains a status as preferred customer because of his frequent business.

Backstory
--------------------
Guy was born as Doug Sargas to a opulent, middle-class family in Southern California. He had a largely healthy and sucessful childhood in spite of being an only child and was reasonably educated at a number of excellent facilities. He retains fond memories of his Youth, carefree time spent on beaches, surfing and exploring the hidden treasures of the ocean. He headed to college at the still-standing CFSD.

There he discovered a passion for history, art, mathematics, computers and most importantly, for Emily Raven, an Amerind exchange student. The two were as star-crossed and star-struck as couples come and married as soon as they had degrees in hand.

The couple moved back to LA to accomodate Emily's job at Horizon. Doug took up a software job at a startup which did some clever work with matrix security and wireless communications. The company paid for much of Doug's cyberware and computer equipment. It was a happy five years.

The crash of 2064 was bad. Doug's father suffered an unexpected heart attack in the week prior. Doug was with his grieving mother when his wife and child died in a hit-and-run car accident. The crash left him stranded at an airport halfway between the two parts of his family as the world tore itself apart when the matrix crashed. Both mother and wife were missing by the time he was mobile again.

He tried going back to work, but financial backing was somewhat lacking and most of the software the company had developed was gone. As a professional engineer with wireless experience, Doug was a hot commodity especially to NeoNet and recruiters were hot on his heels. However, Doug had a vague mistrust of corporations, suspecting Horizon was somehow responsible for the death of his wife, and more importantly Doug needed to get away from everything.

He went to the sea and looked for work. He immediately stumbled across Joseph Carter who was in the process of gearing up for a salvage operation and was in deperate need of someone to keep his network secure. Doug fit the bill. After just a few more salvage operations, some with Carter and some with others, Doug changed his name - legally - to Guy Freebird in an attempt to shed association with his former life.

He has worked for many salvage operators and even some land based companies in the years he's spent in the shadows. His long history with Carter has led to continuing employment and a friendly relationship. Guy's also developed something of a niche role as an underwater signals integrity and analysis guru. For folks who need complicated electronics underwater, he's the man to go to. Needless to say, the territory of treasure hunting has taught Guy how to take care of himself.

He's been living a wild reincarnation of his youth ever since, looking for the big score that will let him make sense of his life. He hasn't found it yet and he gets a little older and a little slower every day. It's an open question whether his career will catch up to him before he finds peace.

[BlackHat]

I was under the assumption it was a gift, and that we needed to scrounge up money for modifications (in theory).
Also, rating 10 ECM is probably unavailable, because you can't get things higher than rating 6 to start with.

For my last 9 BP I am going to pick up Industrial Mechanic 1 (Salvage 3), which I think Pragma dropped, but which I thought was a good idea for salvagers to know how to take apart industrial machinery to get it to the surface. I'll also throw a (Visual) specialization into perception.

I forgot all about knowledges.

[ Spoiler ]

35 points free

Salvage Operations 4 (Prof)
Smuggler Operations 4 (Prof)
Harbor Security Procedures 4 (Prof)

Famous Pirates 4 (Interest)
Famous Treasures 6 (Interest)
Nautical Drone Identification 4 (Interest)

Russian 2 (maritime lingo)
Spanish 2 (maritime lingo)
French 2 (maritime lingo)
English N Language

As far as gear. Assume I got rid of the Odyssey for now, but keep the following modifications (transferred to the new big ship).

[ Spoiler ]

{4} Large Drone Rack (4,000)
{2} Ducted Waterjet (3,200)
{1} Smuggling Compartment, Shielded (wifi negating) (3,000)
{1} Torpedo Launcher (2000)
{1} Workshop, Nautical Mechanic (10,000)
{1} Normal Weapon Mount (1,500)
-{2} Internal Visibility (1000)
-{0} Fixed Flexibility (0)
-{0} Remote Control (500)

Sensor Package (Cap12, Sig5)
{3} Active Sonar 6 (1,200)
{5} Radar 6 (1,200)
{1} Atmospheric Sensor 3 (75)
{1} Radio Signal Scanner 6 (150)
{1} Camera (forward) (standard)
-{4} Vision Enhancement 2 (standard)
{1} Camera (underneith) (standard)
-{4} Vision Enhancement 2 (standard)

This will free up $29,100
Which I will put into

[ Spoiler ]

{1} Extra Exit/Entry Points (Moon Pool) (5,000)
{2} Storage for Lamprey (Often just lifted up on the main winch, but it could be put in heavy storage)
{2} Amenities (High) (1,000) (Make the ship very comfortable on the inside, even if most of us don't pay to make use of it. I'm imagining empty minibars, awesome TVs with no Satellite subscriptions, etc)

Trodes (50) (Oops, forgot those!)
Toolkit (Forgery, Armory) (1,000)
Modular Built In Utility Kits, For Proteus (Industrial, Automotive, Aeronautic, Nautical, Electronic, Demolition, Locksmith) (12,000)

M79B1 LAW [2,800 x2 = 5,600 total]
12P -2/-6* SS - 1 12F (750)
Airburst Link (500)
{1}Internal Smartlink (750)
{1}Camera Upgrade
-{2} Vision Mag (100)
-{4} Smart Link (500)
-{6} Thermographic (100)
{1} Extreme Environment Mod (Underwater) (100)

... modify the other two LAWs to make the launcher and rockets work underwater (200)
Increase fake SIN by 1 (1,000)

... got about 4K left, no idea what else to buy though. Suggestions welcome.

I'll consolidate all of this on the OOC page for later reference. We can either come up with a new name for the current ship, or say that Carter has owned it for a while, and that this is actually his Odyssey

[TheOneRonin]

I can always use some cash for linear cutting charges, especially if Method uses my rules suggestion.

Here are the minimum requirements for cutting a 1 square meter hole in a surface:

Cost: Rating x $200 per kilogram (x4 kg needed for 1 meter hole)

Rating 4 (minimum) will easily cut structural material ($800/kilo)
Rating 5 will barely do the job on heavy structural material ($1000/kilo)
Rating 7 is needed for Armored/Reinforced material ($1400/kilo)
Rating 9 is needed for Hardened material ($1800/kilo)

I don't even have enough leftover cash to buy 4kg of the weakest (rating 4) linear cutting charges.

[Method]

Alright... 11 hours of driving and I'm back. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

To clarify, the boat was a gift. No need to pay its cost, just any modifications you guys want.

OneRonin: I'll look over your example in detail tomorrow, but at a glance I think your fix seems pretty reasonable.

Now... must... sleep.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead.gif)

[BlackHat]

A Mage Sight Fibre Optic Security System might be useful...

(Arsenal p66)

Unfortunately, the prices listed are per meter of cabling, which isn't very useful for abstract vehicles modifications. The vehicles is 75 m long, so what does Method think would be a good rule of thumb for how much cabling we would need to rig together the ship so that a mage can sit in the security room, and peek into most if not all of the other rooms?

[DireRadiant]

What are the list of contacts we want to have? I have a few BP in contacts to assign, and would like to hear from you what you would like!

[BlackHat]

What are the list of contacts we want to have? I have a few BP in contacts to assign, and would like to hear from you what you would like!

Never hurts to have more contacts whose sole purpose is to bail us out of a jam. I picked a SeaCop contact to help if we have trouble coming to or from port, and not sure who could easily help us elsewhere... but some sort of CrashCart contact with one of those rescue-choppers might be useful. Especially if someone manages to sink our ship. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Method]

On the Mage Sight FOSS: a great deal of the ship would be open deck and cargo space, especially if we consider it having enough room to carry another vessel on board. I was picturing something like THIS or THIS. In either case only the forward part of the vessel would require cabling.

Problem there is you might need almost as much cable, since there are two to four decks... I am open to suggestions about how to calculate total length needed. Maybe 50 meters would be appropriate? Thats 2 meters per point of body, although I don't know if that correlation really means anything in this case... Anyone have any good ideas?

Also: I'll throw up the IC/OOC threads tomorrow. I spent all day moving so I didn't have a chance to do that yet.

[BlackHat]

Yeah, without a floorplan, it is going to be impossible to calculate a realistic number (which is why I was sad they handled it in meters - given that you always want to rig a 3d environment). Judging from the second one, the forward part is roughly half of the 75 meters in length. So it would take at least 37 meters of cable just to reach the front of the ship. Assuming we have to go at least that far on all 4 decks, we're talking about 148 meters... but that's basically for 4 long "spines" running down the middle of the ship. We would also want pieces coming off of those spines and going off to each room. No idea really how to figure those out, but I figure out lower-bound on cabling is 150 meters or so - with greater visibility over the area of the ship the more we're going to invest into it.

Even that much is $8,000, which is more than Carter can afford. So unless someone else (the mage?) has a lot of money left over, its probably not worth spending any more time calculating.

[TheOneRonin]

Yeah, without a floorplan, it is going to be impossible to calculate a realistic number (which is why I was sad they handled it in meters - given that you always want to rig a 3d environment). Judging from the second one, the forward part is roughly half of the 75 meters in length. So it would take at least 37 meters of cable just to reach the front of the ship. Assuming we have to go at least that far on all 4 decks, we're talking about 148 meters... but that's basically for 4 long "spines" running down the middle of the ship. We would also want pieces coming off of those spines and going off to each room. No idea really how to figure those out, but I figure out lower-bound on cabling is 150 meters or so - with greater visibility over the area of the ship the more we're going to invest into it.

Even that much is $8,000, which is more than Carter can afford. So unless someone else (the mage?) has a lot of money left over, its probably not worth spending any more time calculating.

I'm finalizing Des, and I dropped one of my skills by a point, giving me 4 extra BPs that I put into resources. So I have over 20k to play around with. Much of that is going towards explosives, but I can certainly donate $8k or less towards the cabling.

[BlackHat]

Acutally, I was wrong, its 9 K for the barebones package described above... but if Carter throws in 4K, and Des throws in another 8K, we should easily have the beginnings of a optical magesight surveilance system, with $3000 worth (50 meters) of additional wiring for girth across the ship - going out to major rooms.

We could probably always upgrade down the road, too, if we want better coverage - but I suspect we'll always be using a vague system regarding whether or not our mage can see a particular point on the ship.

[TheOneRonin]

Acutally, I was wrong, its 9 K for the barebones package described above... but if Carter throws in 4K, and Des throws in another 8K, we should easily have the beginnings of a optical magesight surveilance system, with $3000 worth (50 meters) of additional wiring for girth across the ship - going out to major rooms.

We could probably always upgrade down the road, too, if we want better coverage - but I suspect we'll always be using a vague system regarding whether or not our mage can see a particular point on the ship.

Sweet. Consider my $8k earmarked for the magesight system. I also have an idea for a contact with a chopper that could bail us out. That will finalize Des, so I'll put him up here in a bit.

[TheOneRonin]

Final Draft, Desmond Connelly:

Desmond Connelly
Nicknames: "Des", "Connelly", "That Crazy Scot!"
Scottish Male Human
Age: 37
Height: 6'
Weight: 200 lbs
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Brown
Build: Average/Fit

[ Spoiler ]

Attributes: Base(w/impants)
Body: 4(6)
Agility: 4(6)
Reaction: 3(6)
Strength: 3(4)
Charisma: 3
Intuition: 4
Logic: 4
Willpower: 4
Edge: 2


Skills:
Athletics (Group) 3
Stealth (Group) 3
Firearms (Group) 4

Demolitions(Breaching) 4(+2)
Dodge 3
Diving(SCUBA) 3(+2)
Pilot Watercraft(Motorboat) 1(+2)
Heavy Weapons 3
Perception 4
Etiquette 2
Unarmed Combat 4

Languages:

English: Native
Greek: 4

Knowledge Skills:
Maritime CT Tactics: 4
Pirate Operations/Tactics: 4
Arms Dealers: 4
General Maritime Shipping: 4
Deep-Sea Salvage: 4



Qualities:
Martial Arts II (-10 BP)

Bad Luck (+20BP)


Resources: $230,000 ($9445 left)

Gear:

Colt Government 2066 Heavy Pistol, Smartlinked
AK-98 w/UGL, GV3, ISL, Airburst Link
Remington 950 Sport Rifle w/imaging scope
Franchi SPAS-22 w/flechettes



Combat Load Vest
Armored Jacket (8/6)
Ceramic Knife (STR/2+1)
Diving Gear (Drysuit)
Enclosed Breathing Helmet

Hand-held Sensor (Capcity 3, Signal 3, waterproof)
-Ultrawideband Radar (Rating 4, Capcity use: 2)
-Underwater Camera (Capacity use: 1)

Thermographic, Vision Mag Goggles
Underwater Mini-welder
GPS (waterproof)

Sony Emperor w/Renraku Ichi OS (Waterproof)

x50kg of Commercial Explosives (Rating 3)
x10 kg of Foam Explosive (Rating 6)
x4 1-meter Linear Cutting Charges (Rating 6)
x20 meters of det cord
x10 radio detonators
x10 timer detonators


Ammo:
Hpistol Ammo: x60 regular rounds
Assault Rifle Ammo: x500 regular rounds
Sport Rifle Ammo: x25 regular rounds
Shotgun shells: x20 Flechettes (9P/+4AP)
Shotgun shells: x20 Shock-Lock (8P/.5 Barrier rating)
x6 HE Minigrenades
x10 Flashbangs
x10 Smoke Grenades


Cyberware/Bioware:

Cyber Eyes, Rating II
-Flare Compensation
-Low-Light Vision
-Smartlink

Cyber Ears, Rating II
-Audio Enhancer, Rating II
-Damper
-Spatial Recongnizer

Wired Reflexes I [Alpha]
Reaction Enhancer 2 [Alpha]
Bone Density Augmentation 2
Muscle Augmentation 1
Muscle Toner 2
Synthacardium 3
Reflex Recorder- Skill Group [Firearms]


Combat Notes:

Martial Arts II
Muay Thai
Adantages: DV improved by 2
Maneuvers: Finishing Move


Initiative: 10/2 IPs


Gear:

(working on this)

Contacts: (x12 pts)

Greg "Yojimbo" Kawamori, Yakuza Arms dealer
Loyalty: 1
Connection: 3
Concept: Greg moves arms from the Golden Triangle to the North American West Coast. He mostly deals with small arms, and occasionally had grenades in his inventory. Desmond pulled a job as extra security on an illegal arms shipment coming into Seattle, and that's how he met Greg. The Triads heard about the shipment, and hit it, trying to take it for themselves. Most of the crew were killed in the action, but Desmond managed to drive off the Triads AND pilot the boat the rest of the way to its destination. Greg appreciated Desmond's expertise, and makes a habit of letting Des know whenever he has spare inventory coming in. However, he doesn't cut Des any breaks, and charges his full price for all purchases.

Greg's primary clientel are the Yaks along the West Coast, though he often sells his overflow to interested "consumers" at various ports, from Seattle to San Diego. Knows a lot about the flow of arms in the far east, and he knows which Yak groups are lightly armed, and which ones are packing milspec firepower.

Desmond usually gets emails from Greg when one of the shipments has overflow that the arms dealer needs to dump. Des does have the address of an anonymous drop for when he needs to send a message to Greg, but he has no real way to contact the Yak directly.



Stanley Moscowitz, Construction Foreman/Engineer (Demolitions)
Loyalty: 2
Connection: 2
Concept: Stanley and his crew contract out as structural demolitionists, and do freelance work between Seattle and Portland. Stan's business is legit, but he sells explosives on the side. He and Des met at a gentleman's club in portland, and Stan made is clear that he has a taste for "leased affection". Desmond was able to pull some strings and get Stan hooked up with some professional and high-priced joy girls. In order to finance his habit, he has to supplement his income. He does this by manipulating the orders he makes for demo jobs, and selling the excess off, often to Desmond. Desmond has even gone so far as to borrow the boat to take Stan and his girls out for a pleasure cruise. Carter has only allowed this when the team has been in serious need of explosives, but it's managed to keep Stan VERY happy.

Stan's only real interactions with the underworld are when he sells explosives or when he picks up joy girls. That being said, he knows who's buying explosives, and he knows who is running the different prostitution rackets between Seattle and Portland. From his legimate business, he knows who is buying up old buildings and ordering demo.




Tabitha Red-Feather, Helicopter Pilot and co-owner of Red-Feather Charter Flights
Loyalty: 3
Connection: 1
Concept: Tabitha is an Amerind Ork pilot who co-owns a charter business with her father, former UCAS Army Warrant Officer, John Red-Feather. Most of their business is contract transportation for oil rig personnel, with the occasional intra-city or short distance commute. The business operates three aircraft...a Fed Boeing Commuter Tilt-Rotor (primarily flown by John), a Hughes Stallion (primarily flown by Tabitha), and the newest addition, a Westland Prometheus luxury chopper, courtesy of the company's newest contract for intra-city corporate transport.

Tabitha and Des met socially, and have been romantically involved, on and off for the last year or so. She is totally enamored by his his charm, and kindness and respect he shows her, but she is constantly frustrated by his long absences and lofty "treasure hunting" goals. She's far too pragmatic for that, and would rather Des "settle down and get a real job". Still, she enjoys spending time with him when the Odyssey is in port in Seattle, and even Des it out to sea, they try to keep in touch electronically.

Tabitha is very practical and pragmatic, not to mention business-like. She will use her chopper to help out Des and his crew, but never for free. At the bare minimum, she expects them to cover fuel/maintenance costs, and won't ever cancel a pre-booked job for Des and the team. However, if they are ever in big trouble, she won't hesitate to help out, and just send the bill to the team after it's all over.

Tabitha has little in the way of connections. She is a pilot, and often transports important people, but they rarely, if ever, bother communicating with her. Every now and then, she might overhear some conversation, but it's not often that she hears anything of interest. She does, however, know a lot about the charter-flight business, and who is moving people where.

I have $145 left after giving $8k to Blackhat for the magesight system.

[Method]

IC/OoC Threads are now up.

IC
OoC

Lets start with some day-in-the-life RP to establish the characters and then I'll move quickly into a small job. We can continue to discuss last-minute character touch ups, modifications to the ship and other rules stuff here.

[crizh]

OK, I've made some final tweaks and added gear...

[ Spoiler ]

Name: Petit Petwo
Race: Dwarf
Gender: Male

BREAKDOWN (450BP)

Core Attributes: 120 BP
Special Attributes: 80 BP
Race: 25 BP
Active Skills: 128 BP
Positive Qualities: 35 BP
Negative Qualities: 35 BP
Contacts: BP
Resources 50 BP
Spells: 36 BP
Foci: 11 BP

=Attributes=

Body: 5
Agility: 2
Reaction: 2
Strength: 3
Charisma: 3{6}
Intuition: 3
Logic: 3
Willpower: 3{6}
Magic: 4
Edge: 5

Essence: 5.5
Initiative: 5{7}
Initiative Passes: 1{3}
Physical Damage Track: 11
Stun Track: 10

Current Karma: 0
Total Karma: 0
Street Cred: 0
Noteriety: 0
Public Awareness: 0

=Qualities=

Magician
Biocompatibility: Cyber
Genetic Heritage: Genetic Optimization: Will
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Spirit Bane - Fire Spirits
Sinner
Allergy: Soy, Mild
Geas: Ritual, Immersion in Salt Water

=Active Skills=



Spellcasting (Manipulation): 6(+2)
Counterspelling (Combat) : 4(+2)
Conjuring Group: 4
Enchanting (Alchemy): 2(+2)
Unarmed Combat (Tooth + Claw): 2(+2)
Ritual Spellcasting: 2
Assensing: 2
Perception: 2

=Knowledge Skills=

English: N
Creole: 4
French: 2
Ship Wrecks: 6
Magical Theory: 4
Ghost Stories: 2

=Spells=

Stunbolt
Heal
Increase - Charisma
Increase - Willpower
Increase - Reflexes
Deflection
Fix
Reinforce
Shape Metal
Mana Static
Shapechange
Fashion

=Foci=

Sustaining Focus (3) - Health
Sustaining Focus (3) - Health
Sustaining Focus (3) - Health
Power Focus (2)

=Gear=

Urban Explorer Jumpsuit (Skinlink, Biomonitor, Music Player, Audio System, Select Sound Filter 3, Chemical Protection 4, Fire Resistant 4, Non-Conductive 4.)
FFBA Full Suit (Skinlink, Simrig, Insulation 3)
PPP Forearm Guards, Shin Guards, Vitals Protector
Med Kit 6, Extra Supplies x 2
AK 97 (Accessories: Foregrip, Tripod, Internal Smartlink, Skinlink, Gas Vent III. Modifications: Extended Barrel, High Velocity, Drum Magazine, Personalized Grip, Sling)
Goggles (Skinlink, Smartlink, Image Link, Vision Magnification, Vision Enhancement 3)
Contacts (Flare Compensation, Low Light, Image Link)
Mage Sight Goggles (30m, Skinlink, Image Link)
Earbuds (Skinlink, Audio Enhancement 3, Spatial Recognizer)
Handheld Sensor (Radio Signal Scanner 6, Cyberware Scanner 6, NLJD)
Handheld Sensor (Olfactory Sensor 6, Radiation Sensor, Barometric Sensor)
Handheld Sensor (Ultrawideband Radar 3, Motion Sensor)

Ammo Drums x 4
Gel Rounds x200
Regular Rounds x300

Basic Comm-links x2 (1 w/ Skinlink)
Certified Credsticks x2

Squid, Rating 6 Prepared Plasteel Homunculus
Plast-eel, Rating 1 Prepared Plasteel Homunculus

Magical Lodge, Rating 6
Binding Materials, Force 6
Manipulation Fetish
Assay Kit
Raw Seashells, 100 Units



=Cyber=

Skillwires 3 - Alpha
Datajack - Alpha

=Activesofts=

Industrial Mechanic, Rating 2
Aeronautic Mechanic, Rating 2
Nautical Mechanic, Rating 2
Dodge, Rating 2
Infiltration, Rating 2
Armourer, Rating 2
Automatics, Rating 3



=Contacts=

Fixer ( Loyalty 1/ Connections 5)

I'm still not sure whether 'Manipulation Fetish' should be in gear or negative qualities....