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[ornot]

Don't know if had been postet before, but here http://sirdoomsbadcompany.files.wordpress....anion-promo.pdf you can fnd the cover art, which looks really great! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/love.gif)

I don't know what to say. If my g/f sees that she'll go off on one about men being sexist pigs again.

[CanRay]

I thought that went without saying.

And, hey, she's an empowered woman. Got a gun and a razor. Not like she's some Damsel in Distress!

[Prime Mover]

I'm curious too how found that one hehe, or had someplace to keep an eye on? What about Ghost Cartels cover, thought that was coming first? Nice pic by the by.

EDIT:
NM found it!
http://sirdoomsbadcompany.files.wordpress....rtels-promo.pdf

Or this one!!
http://sirdoomsbadcompany.files.wordpress....ities-promo.pdf

[Fuchs]

Hm... going into a jungle with just a pistol as a weapon strikes me as a bit... careless.

[Prime Mover]

With a pistol and wearing poet shirts hehe.

Didnt have to use links above, covers on CGL sell sheets link now too.

[Isath]

Well I am really looking forward to the Runners Companion and it seems to include everything I would like it to.

On the subtopic for the troll-nations here...

I play SR since Ed.1 and I like SR4 the most of the 4 editions. It is quite an easy System (at least for me) and definatly easier than its predecessors - luckily without losing complexity. No one can deny, that there are easier Systems, but easier does equal better. Also I always liked the pointbased character creation and am able to create a viable character in under 45 minutes (statwise) - with ease that is. Still I tend and like to invest more time into the generation of characters, as it is more of a floating process. Also I see the stats not just as stats so I might create multiple iterations while I flesh out the details of the concept and background.

As for Caine... I like discussions and criticism can be a very good thing, especially when constructive. Ofcause it does not have to be constructive, but constant repetition of personal dislikes is, in most cases however, not necessary and somewhat unnerving. I don't like to say that, and you won't like to hear that, but I'd rather rate you a troll of somesort.
Although trolls shouldn't be fed you've got masses of attention, including mine - be happy with that, keep it to that and consider returning back to the topic of this thread, please.

[hazemyth]

Hmmm. There's been mention of the book covering 'the infected' but the sell sheet only mentions ghouls. I was hoping to see vampires, banshees and others covered as well...

[Synner]

We might have some of those too...

[hermit]

I don't know what to say. If my g/f sees that she'll go off on one about men being sexist pigs again.

Then tell her what a sexist she is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

We might have some of those too...

How do Banshees now work anyway? Like a blood-drinking elf vampire with a scary howl? Or do they drain essence via scare, as they did in 2?

[hazemyth]

We might have some of those too...

Sweet.

[Lofwyr's mas...]

I dunno, I'm generally rather sensitive about my RPG art not being pr0n, but this cover doesn't seem at all like that. In fact, people - women, even - actually dress like that (well, maybe not exactly like that, but it's no chainmail bikini) and sit like that. Maybe my standards are low, since I started roleplaying with D&D, but this rates lower on the objectification scale than most issues of Cosmopolitan, so I can't bring myself to worry too much.

I'm really looking forward to the book - I think more fluff on running in the 70s is a good idea, considering how much of the setting (as opposed to the rules) is dependent on outdated, 2nd & 3rd ed fluff. I'm also glad that Synner mentioned new Qualities (way back...before we visited the Black Forest) because character creation seems to demand some negative qualities, and right now, there are way too many people with allergies to sunlight or trout or something. It's not very diverse.

Also, I want drakes, but we knew that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Ancient History]

Now now, shadowkids. SR has never been guilty of a Crotch of Doom shot, for which we can all be silently grateful.

[Wesley Street]

Wow, cameltoe. If my parents saw that book in my apartment I'd be horribly embarrassed. I pray SR never goes that route.

[Sweaty Hippo]

Now now, shadowkids. SR has never been guilty of a Crotch of Doom shot, for which we can all be silently grateful.

I think that Shadowrun can use some more cheesecake.

If it worked for Wizards of the Coast, then surely it will work for Catalyst Game Labs.

[Blue eyes]

Can't wait to see the info on the 3 new metahuman variants presented in Runner's Companion, together with most of the variants from Shadowrun Companion !!

The 3 new ones were mentioned in a recent chat and are called:

-Nartaki (India).
-Haruman (India).
-Xapiri Thëpë (South America).

No mention of which "main races" they are variants of yet.

[ShadeRavnos]

Some people seem to be thinking that a big pile of nuyen evaporates and the PC/spirit whatever feels a nice rush of karma. I don't think that's what the suggestion that offerings to the spirit world generate karma means. It seems more likely that the money is used to arrange some form of ritual, or to make some kind of totem, which is then sacrificed or burnt. Possibly a good way to represent such a mechanic in game is by saying the money is used to buy special oils or foods with ritual purposes.

It's also certainly not unreasonable to consider that free spirits cannot grow as individuals by communing with the mana of the spirit world, since that's where they're from. It's nothing special for them, while it si for metahumans.

I think that an easier way to explain it would be say you're "buying" Karma with cash... You donate it to a charity... Doing a good deed earns you good Karma. Say you're going the other way with it and "trading" Karma for cash... You recieve a windfall of some kind... Win the lottery, find a suitcase of 50's.. It's easy to explain it... If the system's going to be there of corse someone's going to find a way to abuse it... If you don't like the system don't use it in your games... I already have a system for this established in my games since I started running in SR2.

[RunnerPaul]

Now now, shadowkids. SR has never been guilty of a Crotch of Doom shot, for which we can all be silently grateful.

Crotch of doom comes in many flavors.

Some would say that that drawing a fired-from-the-hip machinegun so large on the page that you don't have room to even get the troll's legs anatomically correct certainly qualifies.

[Aaron]

-Nartaki (India).
-Haruman (India).
-Xapiri Thëpë (South America).
No mention of which "main races" they are variants of yet.

If it was me trying to figure it out, I might try using Google on the metatype names to see if they refer to any particular creature from folklore.

[Fuchs]

I'm really looking forward to the book - I think more fluff on running in the 70s is a good idea, considering how much of the setting (as opposed to the rules) is dependent on outdated, 2nd & 3rd ed fluff. I'm also glad that Synner mentioned new Qualities (way back...before we visited the Black Forest) because character creation seems to demand some negative qualities, and right now, there are way too many people with allergies to sunlight or trout or something. It's not very diverse.

Yes, more positive and negative qualities would be good to have.

[Fleinhoy]

[quote name='Synner' date='May 29 2008, 05:44 AM' post='686529']
Runners' Companion is in fact in the final stages of writing and most of the content is set. It will include new and updated character options in the form of metavariants


You just made me a very happy man. Metavarients were fun in 3rd ed.

"Who wants to shave the hairy elf shaman (night one) when he's off doing his astral thingymy?" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

[Wesley Street]

Some would say that that drawing a fired-from-the-hip machinegun so large on the page that you don't have room to even get the troll's legs anatomically correct certainly qualifies.

Huh. I always thought that was a dwarf when I had that book. Didn't remember seeing the tusks...

[Aaron]

Some would say that that drawing a fired-from-the-hip machinegun so large on the page that you don't have room to even get the troll's legs anatomically correct certainly qualifies.

To be fair, who says that trolls are immune to the many of forms of dwarfism?

[Fortune]

Dwarf with SURGEd troll-like features. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[CanRay]

Well, we have a Male "Crotch of Doom", now we need a Female one (Dwarf with SURGEd troll-like features) just to make it fair and non-sexist!

If we have Eye Candy in both sexes, we're not being discriminatory. Just perverted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[FrankTrollman]

Just to put things in perspective, Nartaki are prostitutes and exotic dancers. In their mythological meaning, they are nature spirits who do that. Personally, I would have used Apsara or Gandharva. In any case, you're probably looking at a variant of Elf, because that's pretty much what they are. You know, when it's not just a word for pretty ladies that you are paying money in exchange for sex.

The Haruman are monkey people. Personally, I would have used the word Bandar Log (literally "Monkey People") because they are literally called that, while Haruman is simply the leader and divine champion of the monkey people. Other fun names for this character include Hanuman and Goku (yes, Dragonball is about the adventures of one these characters). No frickin clue, as different Bandar come in sizes ranging from marmoset to gorilla and builds both muscular and gracile. So um... yeah. They are clearly hairy, and may have tails, but beyond that I couldn't predict. If I had to rely only on my psychic powers I would suspect them of being a variety of Ork.

The Xapiri Thëpë are tiny spirit people of Amazonia and they are therefore almost certainly a variant of Dwarf.

-Frank