Does it already exist?, I know it can be done in house rules Options

[Snow_Fox]

I'm not sure what DLN has in mind, but suddenly in my mind, a conflict between guards from the big japan-o-corps is gonna look like a scene from a Kurisawa film.

[Ryu]

That is going to be a great session! Thanks!

[TKDNinjaInBlack]

synner mentioned the illustrations, but in First Run for 3ed, there are picks of the Red Samurai in their neotraditional armor.

[FlashbackJon]

Red Samurai have used neo-samurai armors for quite sometime in canon. There are both written and illo references in several 3rd Ed books including Brainscan and Renraku Arcology:Shutdown.

It's been a loooooong while, but I'm pretty sure it was covered in Never Deal with a Dragon too.

The Red Samurai are one of my first mental images of the Shadowrun setting.

[The ubbergeek]

From the guy who apparently made pics for the failed Shadowrun Online project...

http://shadowrunonline.deviantart.com/art/...amurai-41626393

This is for me a nice example of how they would look - and not only that, but with a Wujen(?) suport guy also in neotraditional Heian (?) imperial court nobleman version. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

[Drogos]

The only issue I have with that is the Ork. Japanacorp = no Orks/Trolls. In fact, Corporate Download specifically states that the only non-homo sapien sapiens are a few home sapien nobilis let in because of magical talent. 99.8% of the Red Samurai are Japanese Humans, with 95% being male Japanese Humans. But that is one heck of an illustration (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[TKDNinjaInBlack]

Oh, they'd let an ork become an asset to the company... as a Yomi Island prisoner. Well, until the new Emperor took over.

[ravensmuse]

Didn't they also say Oni were being used as traditional bodyguards?

[Drogos]

Didn't they also say Oni were being used as traditional bodyguards?

Not that I recall, but I may have missed it. I personally like that, but I still feel very leary about having Metas in Japanacorps outside of Evo. I like my Japanese being racist bastards, because every setting needs a good Nazi plot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif)

[ravensmuse]

Not that I recall, but I may have missed it. I personally like that, but I still feel very leary about having Metas in Japanacorps outside of Evo. I like my Japanese being racist bastards, because every setting needs a good Nazi plot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif)

I think in more meta-friendly Japan 3.0 (I'm being serious here), I see it as: "of course I'm not racist! Do you not see these oni working for me?"

Though I could swear I saw the reference in older books - but maybe that was post-Comet, when the Child Emperor came to power.

And if you want Nazi's...what, Aztech wasn't good enough for ya? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Drogos]

And if you want Nazi's...what, Aztech wasn't good enough for ya? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

They never had the Jack Boot-ed feel. I can't imagine the full on goose stepping Gestapo (sp?) parades of Jaguar and Panther Guards. They always made me feel like they would move more like the cats they are named after. Now the Japanese, I can see them goose stepping. No clue why, but it just works in my head. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif) <--My head

[Daddy's Litt...]

They might hire an ork or troll as a token to show they have bowed to the Imperial orders but I think the ingrained prejudice would prevent most metas getting into the ranks of 'elite forces. The RL Japanese culture is incredibly racist, not just against blacks and whites but against non-Japanese Asians. It makes the red necks of the American south 60 years ago look tolerant. I see this as being extended into the world of the metas too.

I think the Emperor telling the Japanese people to do a 180 on ingrained institutional racism is the equivelant of the Emperor telling the people "We must endure the unendurable."

[FlashbackJon]

In a mildly on-topic tangent...

The RL Japanese culture is incredibly racist, not just against blacks and whites but against non-Japanese Asians.

Honestly, I wouldn't call it racism as much as cultural overprotectiveness. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) When my wife asked her students about immigration in America, they all agreed, quite unilaterally, that America should be more tolerant of immigrants and work harder at reducing the red tape involved for Mexicans, for instance. The next day, when she asked about immigration in Japan, the answer she got was pretty much "NO."

In any case, the current generation of Japanese is as fascinated by American culture as the current generation of Americans is about Japanese culture.

[Daddy's Litt...]

The tangent works because it hsows the current culture of racism in RL that can be expanded into the game racism of metas.

I am Japanese-american and a New Yorker more than anything, but I can appreciate the culture and keep track of it. when asked about allowing immigration of non-Japanese to Japan the answers invariably are racists in a manner they do not see as wrong. That they like the relatively 'pure' ethnic profile of the Jaspanese becasue they all look the same and they understand the same things and think the same way and are afraid of outsiders they can't understand. To an american, raised with the melting pot of cultures this is just wrong (I married a caucasian and am very happy). at least in the racist south the red necks accepted that blacks had a role to play. In Japan, even with a desperate need for health care workers and Philipino women willing to learn Japanese and adopt Japanese names the Japanese still don't want them.

[FlashbackJon]

I also remember having the "Brazilian problem" described to me by one of my own tutoring students. That was... enlightening.

[TKDNinjaInBlack]

That's another reason why Shadowrun was always so appealing to me. It takes the real world racism and applies it to the sixth world. Some of the events even parallel events in our own past. Heck, Orksploitation is right out of the Blacksploitation movement of the 70s. Heck, my current ork martial arts adept plays off of blacksploitation for inspiration. I took Jim Kelly (Black Belt Jones and Enter the Dragon) and a little bit of Berry Gordy's the Last Dragon and wrapped Bruce LeeRoy and Williams together in ork form. I don't know much about Orksploitation, but I can find out a lot about blacksploitation as a parallel to help me roleplay.

[The ubbergeek]

The key is to not overdo racism, as one of the older books advised. It exists, and had a realism to the game, a grittyness... but to overdo it is really not fun, to say the least.

Moderated doses.

BTW, the 'ork' is not one probably - it seems more like you confused the 'demon' facial mask/protector for an ork's face. Now, what is under it...

[hermit]

1) Samurai O'yori in modern materials. I like the idea of guards in traditional looking samurai armor, but have it be made of kevelar and ceramic plates, not leather and silk. If in the rules what would the break down be?

It's in Arsenal 2070. Two different suits, no less - Red Samurai, Renraku's, and more generic.

In 3rd, use the stats for Red samurai Armour in Brainscan. It's handled as medium security armour with Helmet (7/7) there.

2) A personal decrypt in your cybereyes. I saw this in GitS but it looked cool. You have a page of gibberish, but if you have the decode in your headware or a chip, your cybereyes can read it clearly.

In 4th, you can run your programs on anything.

In 3rd, it's essentially GM's call, though I'd propably allow i, if only because that's something I've really come to appreciate in 4th. You'll propably need Headware Memory to run it though.

[TKDNinjaInBlack]

The key is to not overdo racism, as one of the older books advised. It exists, and had a realism to the game, a grittyness... but to overdo it is really not fun, to say the least.

I hear that. There's a difference from roleplaying racism and actually coming across as racist.

[Ravor]

Thats why I never play with anyone without explaining to them my vision of the Sixth World is far, far darker then most people prefer.

[Sir_Psycho]

Just for reference, here's a picture of Red Sam in action from First Run.

[Captain K]

Haha, love that picture. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)