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JoelHalpern
post Jul 15 2008, 01:43 PM
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The Self-Defense Umbrella
As reported in Wired, apparently it is really.
It slices watermelons, and beats up the heavy bag.
(The video there is quite nice and sedate, even when he demonstrates the physical sturdiness of the umbrella.)

And no weapon detector will complain (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Jul 15 2008, 02:03 PM
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I liked when he STOOD on the damn thing while it was suspended between the two chairs. He looks to be in the 180 to 200 lbs category.
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post Jul 15 2008, 02:13 PM
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Add in Eskrima, the Filipino martial art, which uses a stick that's about, hey, the size of those umbrellas!

Wonder if the Gurkhas are going to start carrying them around London. They'd certainly fit in. (Of course, they'd still have their Kukris.).
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post Jul 15 2008, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE (JoelHalpern @ Jul 15 2008, 02:43 PM) *
The Self-Defense Umbrella
As reported in Wired, apparently it is really.
It slices watermelons, and beats up the heavy bag.
(The video there is quite nice and sedate, even when he demonstrates the physical sturdiness of the umbrella.)

And no weapon detector will complain (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Joel

Played a character with a "John Steed" schtick a while ago, had a brolly like this. It had a sprung dikoted (pre-SR4) blade at the tip, a densiplast handle which had a shotgun shell in it that would fire on contact. The web was bullet"proof".

He never used it. A gun always seemed more appropriate and was definitely more effective with his skill/'ware set.

The melon smashing thing isn't that impressive. I reckon I could achieve it with my current (golfing-sized) brolly. The handle would shear if I gripped it that way, but holding it a bit higher up, it's got the hitting power of a shinai, with steel ribs and a fibreglass central shaft... After brutalising someone with it I'd probably have to throw it away, but hey, it just defended me against a knife... I believe Jo technique would be the most appropriate style I know with a stick that is about 40" and rather fatter and slower than your typical Escrima cane.

Edit: I believe John Steed had a sword concealed in his brolly, a la sword cane, rather than actually using it, furled, much.
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post Jul 16 2008, 04:57 AM
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I should say you could use it much in the style of Shinai, blunt force is unpleasant to say the least, and its probably quite emasculating to be pounded away on by someone with a brolly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Jul 16 2008, 05:05 AM
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Could be worse. I remember one movie (Wish I could remember it's name) about two spies that had a child, retired, and had an adventure with the baby in tow.

A couple of street punks got their hoops handed to them by Daddy with a folded up baby carriage in one hand, and the kid in the other.

"What are you doing, bringing our child into a knife fight?" "It was a fair fight, there was two of them, there were two of us!"
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post Jul 16 2008, 05:08 AM
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I vaguely remember that, I'll see if it comes to me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 16 2008, 05:39 AM
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I want one.
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post Jul 16 2008, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 15 2008, 11:05 PM) *
Could be worse. I remember one movie (Wish I could remember it's name) about two spies that had a child, retired, and had an adventure with the baby in tow.

A couple of street punks got their hoops handed to them by Daddy with a folded up baby carriage in one hand, and the kid in the other.

"What are you doing, bringing our child into a knife fight?" "It was a fair fight, there was two of them, there were two of us!"


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post Jul 16 2008, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE (tech2.0 @ Jul 16 2008, 11:00 AM) *
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Thank you!

Now, to find on DVD!
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post Jul 16 2008, 07:14 PM
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While Escrima could be used there is so much more style in saying that you use Bartitsu. Technically its meant for walking sticks, but an Umbrella is close enough.
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post Jul 16 2008, 08:17 PM
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And the main point is:
It's not a weapon, legally - at all. It'st just a very sturdy umbrella.

Like those very sturdy fiberglass walking canes with a stainless steel knob.
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post Jul 16 2008, 08:20 PM
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And it's not concealed unless you put it under a longcoat. You're holding it openly. Which is entirely legal in a lot of places.
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post Jul 16 2008, 08:55 PM
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I'd prefer an umbrella that shoots poison gas that turns people into mutant penguins. Or one with a telescopic stock and detachable drum magazine.
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post Jul 17 2008, 12:10 PM
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What the hell is that umbrella made from? I'm pretty sure that if I hit someone with my umbrella it would break after only a few good strikes.
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post Jul 17 2008, 01:30 PM
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Have a PC bodyguard with a brolly of doom for his client. Advanced Kevlar cloth and a short sword as the stem.
Looks like he is going to have to upgrade.
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post Jul 17 2008, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE (ornot @ Jul 17 2008, 02:10 PM) *
What the hell is that umbrella made from?

Some kind of solid, fibre-reinforved plastics most likely.
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post Jul 17 2008, 06:08 PM
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That is awesome.
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post Jul 18 2008, 04:36 AM
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My issue is that it's not really concealed. It's obviously an umbrella of some sort and quite usable for a good bonking. The blade? I don't that it really adds much as the assailants, if they're smart at all, are already accounting for the potential of getting thrashed but the umbrella itself. The good news is that your typical criminal isn't smart but the bad news is that anyone smart will take the potentials afforded by such an item into account.

Good for grannies walking home at night, not so good for 'runners who's assailants will be wondering why they carry that umbrella around...
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post Jul 18 2008, 11:17 AM
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Because, you know, it might rain.
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post Jul 18 2008, 02:36 PM
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I'm reminded of Rosmertas umbrella from Black Lagoon - which was some sort of solid slug auto shotgun/elephant gun, with a kevlar fabric - and only looked like an umbrella when closed.

Speaking of umbrellas and such - was anyone else a tad disappointed by the gun-cane in Arsenal being a reprint?
With the whole Sakura Fubuki/MetalStorm thing, I was hoping for a high caliber, high clip semiauto version similar to Pierrot la Fou's (not that it's hard to change - just the reprinted stuff stands out as very dated and mostly crap).
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post Jul 18 2008, 03:11 PM
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In fact, the Sakura Fubuki was introduced as a single weapon from a new line... just Arsenal doesn't offer any weapons of that line, at all.
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post Jul 18 2008, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Jul 18 2008, 06:17 AM) *
Because, you know, it might rain.

Unless you're in Seattle, then it WILL rain!

Anyhow, this is Cyberpunk. It's always raining, and that annoying, sharp rain that stings and doesn't clean a damn thing. Polluted, acid rain at that!
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post Jul 18 2008, 07:56 PM
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Cyberpunk film is just sci-fi + film noir. Of course there's going to be rain. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 18 2008, 07:57 PM
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My point exactly. Which is why Seattle is so perfect for Shadowrun and Cyberpunk in General. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Vancouver works as well.
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