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To clear up the Runners Companion thread, & consolidate the answers into a single readable location, I have cut the questions & answers from the previous thread to post here. Any new questions, ask in this thread - I will try to keep the original post updated with all questions & answers for ease of reference. If I missed any questions from another thread, please re-post them here.
Please note, none of this is official until Catalyst releases an FAQ or Errata. Questions & Answers How exactly does the Distinctive Style Quality work? The cost is listed as: 5 to 35 BP. Is that 5BP per level? I'm further confused because it then goes on to say that the quality gives a +3 die pool modifier and that you can take the quality multiple times but the max modifier is +6 - which implies that the quality can only be taken twice. Is the +3 a typo and supposed to be a +1? Synner It can be taken multiple times for different features, each time providing a bonus of 5 BP. However, each time the Negative quality is taken, and approved by the gamemaster, anyone trying to locate and identify the character gets a +3. There is a typo in this writeup but its the bonus provided to people hunting you which should cap at +9. While you can take the Distinctive Style Negative quality up to 7 times (for 35 BP), the maximum bonus someone searching for you can benefit should be +9 (meaning that beyond a certain point—the third time the Quality is taken—being even more distinctive provides no additional bonuses to potential trackers.) < - - - - - > What contact ratings do group and online contacts get as a basis? How would, for instance, ShadowSea's and the Choson Ring's rating look like, could you give us an example? the_dunner: In my notes, I had the following: ShadowSEA Connection: 2(11) (Base 2 + Membership 6 + Area 2 + Matrix 1) Komun’go Ring Connection: 4(11) (Base 4+ Membership 4 + Area 2 + Magic 1) Of course, these values are somewhat subjective -- which is probably why they were omitted. You may feel that the group's area of influence, base connection, or membership varies a bit. With larger groups, you won't necessarily have a connection with the entire membership. (As a RL example of a virtual contact, some DS members might have a connection with other members in the SR forum, but not in the "Welcome to the Shadows" forum.) < - - - - - > Infected and Metavariants: are those costs on top of or inplace of the Race BP cost? Synner This is clearly noted in the intro sections of each "Creating a XXXXX" entry. Runner's Companion takes two distinct approaches to the various character options available: * "Racial" options (including metavariants, the sapient species, shifters, AIs and Free spirits) taht are "exclusive" have a racial BP cost that replaces the typical metatype BP cost at CharGen. * "Changed" options (including Infected, changelings, drakes) are treated as Qualities, since they are cumulative with different metatype choices. They are bought independently of the metatype BP cost (meaning a changeling character pays to be an Ork and then pays for the appropriate level of SURGE). As noted in the text, exceptionally, such qualities do not count towards your 35 BP limit. < - - - - - > If one takes Surge Qualities, does one get those Metagenic Qualities required by the Surge Quality Free? Or are they in addition, and the Surge Quality just enables you to take that many? Synner Buying one of the three levels of the SURGE quality (5 to 15 BPs) enables you to spend the additional BPs values listed on Positive and Negative Metagenetic qualities (and those alone). Note that gamemasters may reserve the right to assign your Negative Metagenetic quality BPs themselves to ensure balance. < - - - - - > I notice that several of the Infected and all the shape shifters have a Vulnerability weakness, that doesn't seem to appear in the BBB though, any idea what book I should look for it in. Ancient History Looks like we might have lost a Weakness in editing! Treat it as a Severe Allergy for the time being. < - - - - - > Hmmm would I be right in assuming buying the magician quality for a race/option/etc with a natural magic points doesn't get another free? Ancient History No, buying the Magician/Adept/Mystic Adept, etc. quality doesn't net you another Magic point for free. On the other hand, you can now initiate which is a good thing. < - - - - - > The survival tips section introductory fiction on page 20, fifth paragraph last sentence seems to just stop in mid-sentence. the_dunner That's on me. I've just double checked the original word document, and I apparently never finished the sentence, and never noticed it. The missing words are "their stun batons." < - - - - - > Hey Devs or Freelancers where is: Disease Carrier detailed for point costs and descriptions? Synner Disease Carrier was accidentally cut during editing and was a new mundane Negative quality that gave the character a chronic contagious disease. I'll post it to DSF later and it will be included in future Errata. < - - - - - > Arcane Arrester: Does the original Force or adjusted Force determine the Raw Hit limit for spells? Synner My ruling on this is that it the adjusted Force should limit hits as normal, however, the ambiguity of the writeup allows gamemasters to rule the other way if they want Arcane Arrester to be less powerful. < - - - - - > Infected Characters: Am I correct in assuming that since (IC) HMHVV-I can create magical aptitude in characters where none existed before and the Infected are Awakened, the player (OOC) can buy the Magician/Adept/Mystical Adept Qualities when the character gets Infected, even if Latent Awakening wasn't bought at character creation ? Ancient History No. Unless specifically stated, the character does not gain or can buy those Qualities just from being Infected. < - - - - - > Similar question for latent Drakes: if a character is such, since drakes are Awakened, can the player buy Magician/Adept/Mystical Adept when the dracoform manifests, even if he didn't buy Latent Awakening at character creation ? Ancient History Also no, see above except with "touched by a Dragon (pun intended)" instead of "Infected". < - - - - - > From reading the Infected chapter, I am left with the strong impression that the Infection Power, effectively, is nothing more than the HMHVV-I character sharing her blood fluids with the subject when it hits 0 Essence. Therefore, I wonder, is the actual presence of the Infected really necessary to "turn" someone, or a sample of Infected blood, or a purified sample of the virus suffices, if it's administed to a character before or just after it hits 0 Essence by whatever means ? Ancient History You need the Infection power to create HMHVV-I strain characters, as it requires a specific test to pass along the infection. Further details on the infection process may be forthcoming in the critters book some time down the line. < - - - - - > Following the same line of reasoning, is it possible for a 0.1+ Essence character to come in contact with HMHVV-I virus and become a carrier, and transform to a vampire or nosferatu if and when the character is drained to 0 Essence by whatever means, even much more later (from days to years) ? Ancient History No. Read the Carrier Negative Quality again; only one of the Infected with the Infection power can become a carrier for an HMHVV-I strain. < - - - - - > I've found an inconsistency. On p. 61 it says Studies suggest that HMHVV-positive individuals must consume at least 1 percent of their body weight of appropriate biomaterial each week or begin to suffer the effects of malnutrition. but on p. 78 it says All Infected have a dietary requirement (p. 290, SR4); failure to meet this dietary requirement (5% of their body weight per week) results in slow starvation. For an Infected of 80 kg, 0.8 kg of metahuman blood or flesh per week most definitely are not 4 kg. True, in most cases, it is going to be abstracted as part of the character's lifestyle, as per the Infected Lifestyle rule, but still, given the origin of the food, it's not trivial. Are the studies quoted on p. 61 uncorrect ? Ancient History In-character information always has the possibility of being incorrect or misleading. The rules on Dietary Requirement are correct. < - - - - - > Why does the cost of being a Changeling count against the 35 points of positive qualities allow at character generation when no other racial package counts against that same restriction? Synner Mainly for game balance and to ensure some level of rarity. Unlike many of the other "racial" options that have their own built-in restrictions, changeling abilities overlap and complement many augmentations and magical abilities, and designing changelings could potentially degenerate into an exercise in tweaking. While the extra cost won't stop this it will make it less appealing to anyone just looking for benefits (particularly for the more extreme SURGE options) since it will cut into your "Quality budget". < - - - - - > Arcane Arrester: Under the ruling that the adjusted Force is the limit on the caster's hits regarding that character: 1) Does Arcane Arrester adjust spells that do not affect the character, but they must still resist, such as Invisibility? 2) In the case of Indirect Combat spells, is the Force adjusted as the spell is cast, lowering the Raw Hits limit before the Defense roll, or after the subject is hit, reducing possible increases to damage from Net Hits, but not the chance of being hit? Synner 1) It is a innante and uncontrollable ability which affects all magic effects against the character including stuff like Invisibility and Heal. 2)The latter. I've already noted this one for a FAQ reply. < - - - - - > Where is Warezhouse 24? Synner Warezhouse 24 is missing because it was a late addition intended to complement the material on the Cracker Underground in Unwired and not part of John Dunn's initial writeups. Warezhouse 24 would be Connection: 3(13) (Base 3 + Membership 2 + Area 1 + Matrix 2) - I've made the Area of Influence limited to the Warezhouse 24 base of operations node hence only Area 1, however, were one to use the Warezhouse to recruit talent or hire botnets Area might even be considered global. As a rule of thumb the Area of Influence of a Virtual Contact should be in line with the group's actual function and effective ability to implement its agenda. This stat should be discussed with the gamemaster when taking a Virtual Contact. |
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Muspellsheimr Unofficial Errata: Runners Companion Aug 5 2008, 07:45 AM
Synner QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Aug 5 2008, 08:45 ... Aug 5 2008, 08:01 AM
Ryu QUOTE (Synner @ Aug 3 2008, 02:02 AM) Her... Aug 5 2008, 09:00 PM
WearzManySkins Where is Warehouse 24?
WMS Aug 5 2008, 10:05 PM
Synner QUOTE (WearzManySkins @ Aug 5 2008, 11:05... Aug 6 2008, 01:56 PM
Gray QUOTE (Synner @ Aug 6 2008, 09:56 AM) War... Aug 23 2008, 10:35 PM
Ancient History Its contents were shipped to Facility 342 in Tokyo... Aug 5 2008, 10:09 PM
WearzManySkins QUOTE (Ancient History @ Aug 5 2008, 04:0... Aug 5 2008, 10:29 PM
WearzManySkins OK Synner posted a list of contacts and organizati... Aug 6 2008, 12:06 AM
Ancient History Oh warezhouse. I misunderstood the reference. Aug 6 2008, 12:33 AM
Jaid in the first section of the book (page 17, 'on... Aug 6 2008, 01:29 AM
WearzManySkins Hmm
Exceptional Attribute Quality is both Mental ... Aug 6 2008, 02:05 AM
Cardul Just for Clarification: Using the Priority Build s... Aug 7 2008, 10:28 AM
Aaron QUOTE (Cardul @ Aug 7 2008, 05:28 AM) Jus... Aug 7 2008, 03:52 PM
Muspellsheimr Is there anything preventing an Infected from taki... Aug 7 2008, 07:17 PM
tsuyoshikentsu What the heck are Enhanced Senses (in Creation fo... Aug 8 2008, 05:50 AM
Ancient History The Enhanced Senses critter powr (p.288, SR4); dif... Aug 8 2008, 06:04 AM
tsuyoshikentsu Thanks.
Next question: what do they do? I mean, ... Aug 8 2008, 06:30 AM
Ancient History Traditionally been ill-defined, but typical exampl... Aug 8 2008, 03:07 PM
Isath I usually treat them as their cyber counterparts (... Aug 8 2008, 04:02 PM
Jhaiisiin There appears to be a slight discrepancy with shap... Aug 9 2008, 05:31 PM
HappyDaze As above, but note the Eagle shiter's Willpowe... Aug 10 2008, 03:28 PM
Jhaiisiin Regarding the Shifter optional rule to have your h... Aug 14 2008, 04:30 PM
DreadPirateKitten QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Aug 14 2008, 01:30 PM)... Aug 19 2008, 02:42 AM
Ophis QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Aug 14 2008, 05:30 PM)... Sep 15 2008, 06:57 PM
tsuyoshikentsu As do I. Aug 19 2008, 03:31 AM
Maelwys Another quick clarification.
Bear stats, the ... Aug 19 2008, 03:42 AM
Jhaiisiin That was my take on it. Hopefully once the devs a... Aug 19 2008, 08:34 AM
Ryu I assume that comes from the 6->1 reduction of ... Aug 24 2008, 06:29 AM
Jhaiisiin Presently it's up to GM discretion. I could ar... Aug 24 2008, 06:47 AM
Cardul QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Aug 24 2008, 01:47 AM)... Sep 4 2008, 06:21 AM
Ryu The antiquities and oddities dealer-contact misses... Aug 24 2008, 07:18 AM
Coldan At the Group Contact table on page 124 the members... Aug 30 2008, 02:39 AM
Aaron I'm thinking that unless a creature is good at... Sep 4 2008, 02:33 PM
Isath Oh cats are quite agile, if they are allowed to be... Sep 4 2008, 03:37 PM
Jhaiisiin Cardul, don't assume you know me. I do own a ... Sep 4 2008, 06:40 PM
Aaron QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Sep 4 2008, 12:40 PM) ... Sep 4 2008, 07:51 PM
Jhaiisiin Both? Hehe Sep 4 2008, 09:12 PM
Ned Unless I'm mistaken, the rules for Glamor seem... Sep 4 2008, 10:24 PM
Rasumichin No, they're on p. 113. Sep 4 2008, 10:58 PM
Ned QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Sep 4 2008, 11:58 PM)... Sep 6 2008, 03:34 AM
Wilcrez There's something I've found that doesn... Sep 5 2008, 02:16 AM
Muspellsheimr QUOTE (Wilcrez @ Sep 4 2008, 08:16 PM) Th... Sep 5 2008, 03:02 AM
Aaron QUOTE (Wilcrez @ Sep 4 2008, 08:16 PM) Th... Sep 5 2008, 03:16 AM
Muspellsheimr A while ago - I don't have access to it at the... Sep 5 2008, 03:27 AM
Aaron Ah. Then I'll just tell you: the ellipsis in h... Sep 5 2008, 03:43 AM
HappyDaze What is the maximum Edge for Shapeshifters? Sapie... Sep 5 2008, 10:26 PM
Jhaiisiin AH mentioned that vulnerability was accidentally l... Sep 6 2008, 01:45 AM
HappyDaze QUOTE AH mentioned that vulnerability was accident... Sep 6 2008, 05:12 AM
Jhaiisiin That's the workaround as I understood it. Bas... Sep 6 2008, 05:31 AM
HappyDaze I'm not really fond of that solution, but that... Sep 6 2008, 06:00 AM
Azmahel The Lifestylequality feng shui is worded somewhat ... Sep 11 2008, 08:42 PM
BookWyrm Agreed. I'm still waiting for the other Errata... Oct 8 2008, 04:53 PM
toturi A follow up on the Distinctive Style question - Wh... Oct 20 2008, 04:37 AM
Ryu Can someone fix the thread title please? Nov 29 2008, 01:38 AM
Hagga How much is Global Fame actually supposed to cost? Nov 29 2008, 01:45 PM
Ryu Thanks to someone!
Regarding deviating costs:... Dec 31 2008, 04:20 PM
Ryu I think the Erased quality (RC pg. 97) should say ... Jan 6 2009, 08:58 AM
Draco18s I might as well drop in here the response I got fr... Mar 13 2009, 02:02 PM
Freejack I'm doing some poking around in Runner's C... Apr 18 2009, 03:42 AM
Cabral I assume the new karma costs from SR4A replace the... Apr 18 2009, 06:25 PM
Freejack QUOTE (Cabral @ Apr 18 2009, 12:25 PM) I ... Apr 18 2009, 07:29 PM
Freejack Figured out what the problem is:
pg 182 - Missing... Apr 18 2009, 07:32 PM
Freejack A few more:
pg 184 - Missing Martial Arts positiv... Apr 26 2009, 12:05 AM![]() ![]() |
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