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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,300 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648 ![]() |
Let's talk group dynamic and team history. Who hires us? How many of us are doing it for the money and how many of us are doing it for the warm feeling you get when you smash a Humanis head in? Is there an OU "City Center"? A vaguely centralized organization that tries to handle the metaplot problems? I'm all for the warm feeling of smashing Humanis heads in (or rather, the warm feeling of powerballing them). Not that i would reject a small recompensation for my efforts, of course. Group dynamics wise, my character (damn, i have to come up with a name) tends to make extreme sacrifices to achieve goals he believes in. Really does the best he can for the group/mission/community. What he doesn't take well is being ordered around, partially because of his upbringing and believes, partially because i'll most likely go for antagonist as mentor spirit (have to come up with some fluff here, i can't get rid of the wack idea of fluffing his mentor out as Jean Paul Sartre- precisely, the version of Sartre from that Monthy Python sketch). |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 125 Joined: 22-June 07 Member No.: 11,979 ![]() |
I'm all for the warm feeling of smashing Humanis heads in (or rather, the warm feeling of powerballing them). Not that i would reject a small recompensation for my efforts, of course. Group dynamics wise, my character (damn, i have to come up with a name) tends to make extreme sacrifices to achieve goals he believes in. Really does the best he can for the group/mission/community. What he doesn't take well is being ordered around, partially because of his upbringing and believes, partially because i'll most likely go for antagonist as mentor spirit (have to come up with some fluff here, i can't get rid of the wack idea of fluffing his mentor out as Jean Paul Sartre- precisely, the version of Sartre from that Monthy Python sketch). Could be quite fun smashing some Humanis. Spike will do a lot for money, though she doesn't really affiliate herself with any group in the OU, such as the SOS, etc. I see her as one of the founding members of the team, maybe the second or third to join, and as she's aging (She's getting up to 35 almost), she's starting to feel more motherly to any of the younger members of the group. Well, as motherly as you can when you're packing more cyberware than many people and you kick ass for a living. Hell, you get what I mean, right? |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 ![]() |
Dancer will pitch in to defend the community, play white knight if she sees humanis thugs picking on someone, and has the back of any other member of the team. She doesn't really go looking for humanis thugs to beat on, though. She is fairly mercenary, but still loyal to her teammates, and conscious of getting/keeping a good rep as a runner.
I'm going to brainstorm a bit on how she could have met the others, but here is her sheet for now: [ Spoiler ] |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,532 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 769 ![]() |
Let's talk group dynamic and team history. Who hires us? How many of us are doing it for the money and how many of us are doing it for the warm feeling you get when you smash a Humanis head in? Is there an OU "City Center"? A vaguely centralized organization that tries to handle the metaplot problems? From Mongol's perspective. Money is good... A bit on the weird side, after all, you can't eat it, snort it, or kill someone with it, what good is it? Besides it's so much easier to just trade things. Apparently though, it's necessary and all that. After all even in his brief time in the UCAS he's seen enough sims to know that people with money are apparently happy. Mongol isn't dumb (logic 4), just primitive. As for why he's running... It seems like the path of least resistance. He's good at shooting people, likely couldn't make a living doing anything else, has no SIN, and his friend in the 10,000 Daggers gave him the name of a fixer who works with the OU. Things get real simple when there is only one com-number in the link that you hardly know how to use. Humanis is as good a target as any, and he'd likely be easily impressed with the social justice ideals held by ORC. In fact, he's impressionable enough right now that he could turn into quite the fanatic. As far as a "city center" goes. I'm (and I expect Mongol) quite indifferent. Mongol's going to spend the first while at least doing a lot of smiling and nodding, to various ideas, plans and payscales. He's pretty naive and the language barrier won't help in that regard. He'll become more streetsmart as the campaign proceeds however. |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,532 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 769 ![]() |
An edited version of Mongol, This time with 200 BP's spent on attributes. Hopefully I remembered to change everything.
[ Spoiler ]
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,991 Joined: 1-February 08 From: Off the rock! Back In America! WOOOOO! Member No.: 15,601 ![]() |
Alright so we've established that no one wants to play (openly) the sociopath psycho who wants to stab everyone (on their team) and take their stuff. That works for my character concept because I see this guy being older, maybe even in his mid thirties/early 40's . I highly doubt he'd run with you all if it was all about the money or he didn't have a fair amount of trust in you.
I see him being one of the founding members too, perhaps Doc and Spike got this idea over sutures and beer one night. Doc sees this team as a way to legitimize his operations in the OU (ie. Not get clubbed to death by SOS every other day). I see him living and operating fairly deep in the OU, much deeper than most smooth skins would be comfortable with. He counts on his rep and free health care for locals to keep him safe. Hm... maybe Spike and Doc ran into or with each other topside a couple of years ago but Doc is just now moving into the OU. I see this as his transition from mostly legit freelance shadow doc to full blown underground shadow clinic operator. |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,532 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 769 ![]() |
I filled out that Bull's 50 questions. If I happen to have time tomorrow (though it's unlikely I will) I'll try and writeup a 'proper' backstory. My favorite answer, that I think perfectly sums up Mongol's life up to this point is:
42. What is the most important thing you have ever done? He caused a 3 point jump in the networks ratings after a particularly heroic assault on an MET2000 camp. Even better it's question #42, the solution to life the universe and everything! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif) [ Spoiler ]
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 521 Joined: 24-August 04 From: Northeast, USA Member No.: 6,595 ![]() |
Could be quite fun smashing some Humanis. Spike will do a lot for money, though she doesn't really affiliate herself with any group in the OU, such as the SOS, etc. I see her as one of the founding members of the team, maybe the second or third to join, and as she's aging (She's getting up to 35 almost), she's starting to feel more motherly to any of the younger members of the group. Well, as motherly as you can when you're packing more cyberware than many people and you kick ass for a living. Hell, you get what I mean, right? Glitch is 17 years old having graduated high school early, and completed 1 year at the University of Washington before getting marked for hacking a major corp. He is rather shy, but mature for his age, although he is a Media Junkie, and surfs the Matrix all the time. He is human-looking and very out of place in the Ork Underground, so any friends he has he sticks to like glue. Most of his life he'd been fairly well to do and with his soft features, Glitch had been shielded from most of the hate and discrimiantion that the Humanis represent. His recent exposure to them has left him angry and willing to do whatever he can to help end their influence on the city. He was probably in the second wave to join the team, or maybe a tag-along to one of the founders. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,300 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648 ![]() |
Coming into the team during the second wave seems about right for my character, too.
Probably a desastrous event wiped out half of the original lineup? Plus, i've finally come up with a name, Jacques "Saint Juste" Palminger- and the 50+ questions. Here we go : [ Spoiler ]
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 125 Joined: 22-June 07 Member No.: 11,979 ![]() |
Alright so we've established that no one wants to play (openly) the sociopath psycho who wants to stab everyone (on their team) and take their stuff. That works for my character concept because I see this guy being older, maybe even in his mid thirties/early 40's . I highly doubt he'd run with you all if it was all about the money or he didn't have a fair amount of trust in you. I see him being one of the founding members too, perhaps Doc and Spike got this idea over sutures and beer one night. Doc sees this team as a way to legitimize his operations in the OU (ie. Not get clubbed to death by SOS every other day). I see him living and operating fairly deep in the OU, much deeper than most smooth skins would be comfortable with. He counts on his rep and free health care for locals to keep him safe. Hm... maybe Spike and Doc ran into or with each other topside a couple of years ago but Doc is just now moving into the OU. I see this as his transition from mostly legit freelance shadow doc to full blown underground shadow clinic operator. That could work out rather well. Spike and Doc were put together on a run, and they worked very well, and so they had a few more people join up. Maybe some strange event (Like the other guy said) took out half the group. Or maybe the whole group disagreed, and Doc and Spike were the only ones on their side. |
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,987 Joined: 1-March 05 From: République Libre du Québec Member No.: 7,129 ![]() |
One last little thing: I do not own Runners Companion... So all those optionals rules, I have no idea what they are supposed to represent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sarcastic.gif)
As I'm building my rigger, is there anything I should be aware of? |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,532 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 769 ![]() |
Rasumichin. When I was reading your background I all I could picture when you described Saint Juste's home was the scene from Monty Python's Holy Grail when Arthur is interrogating the peasants. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
As for the Code of Conduct in Runners companion it's basically just a moral code that you develop based on your character. It gives a small bonus, and a small penalty based on how they will either react to most situations or how others react to them. From what I've read about St. Juste I'll toss an idea out (mainly because I'm stuck trying to think of one for Mongol). At least give you something to base your own code on: Radical Anarchist A Radical Anarchist wants to smash the system, pure and simple. He's convinced that the status quo is failing society and only through the extremes of revolution can societies ills be repaired. Advantages: Since Anarchists are taking on 'the system' which is arguably the single most powerful force on the planet they have learned how to disappear when necessary. Safehouses only cost an Anarchist half as much as normal. Disadvantages: Anarchists have a very difficult time not stepping in when they see what they perceive to be abuse by an authority. An anarchist must make a Composure 3 test to avoid intervening when they see someone being 'oppressed'. |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,666 Joined: 29-February 08 From: Scotland Member No.: 15,722 ![]() |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,300 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648 ![]() |
Lapsing into Python is always appropriate.
Damn, now i have to make a composure test to resist shouting stuff about the Spanish inquisition. @ imperialus : the code of conduct idea sounds great. I might pick that up. Combined with his mentor disadvantages, this might cause some trouble, but it's still below paladin level. Could be fun. The Monthy Python's reference was unintentional, but could work out, even though i was more thinking along the lines of a squat/atelier over here in Cologne, some 60s civil nostalgia and a good smattering of french movies from the 70s. Here's the second draft, almost done except for fine tuning. [ Spoiler ] I'm not 100% satisfied yet, but don't think i can come up with the ~20 points to complete his knowledge skill selection, the 100 BP i'd need for a really rounded out set of mostly useless active skills or the 20BP for a sufficient list of equally useless contacts who are all sitting on another continent. Next time, i'll go for karmagen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spin.gif) But he seems terribly efficient with his insane Magic attribute, the foci and the tons of spells. Differs from my original healer concept, though, but with his heal spell and accupuncture skills, he should be able to work as a decent sanologist. And with Doc Taotsu already present, it's probably not that bad either. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,300 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648 ![]() |
Seems i miscalculated the Magic cost...
Points acquired after initiation have to be bought at BP costs equalling their cost in karma, right? I'll fix this and will most likely lower the rating. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,300 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648 ![]() |
Dropped the Magic to 5, put the 20 points into skills and changed mind probe to false memory.
Control manipulations are going to become this character's "ends justifying the means" moral weak spot, i'm afraid. Or i'm going to swap them for some other spells. Would be an interesting idea, as i already have a raven shaman messing with people's heads and wanted to try something different anyway. Might change the mentor as well then. We'll see. I could take the original idea and go for buffs (which appears not very effective, with the modifiers for upholding them and the possibilities a posession based tradition would have to offer in that regard) or might focus more on illusions. Cat as a mentor would be a possibility. Or bear, if i'm going for the buffs. Cat would mean reworking/refocussing some of the background, but that could be done. Damn, character creation always ends up like this for me. Stay tuned for the 4th draft, here's the third... [ Spoiler ] |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,666 Joined: 29-February 08 From: Scotland Member No.: 15,722 ![]() |
Seems i miscalculated the Magic cost... Points acquired after initiation have to be bought at BP costs equalling their cost in karma, right? I'll fix this and will most likely lower the rating. Does that not end up saving you points? If you soft max Magic at 5 and then Initiate, the 6th point of Magic only costs 18BP's instead of 25. Or am I missing something? I don't see the point of raising your Magic above 6 anyway. After that it becomes much more cost effective to improve other things. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,300 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648 ![]() |
Does that not end up saving you points? If you soft max Magic at 5 and then Initiate, the 6th point of Magic only costs 18BP's instead of 25. Yes, but i mistakenly used the linear costs for raising it from 5 to 7, so i miscalculated there... Anyway, Magic 5 should be sufficient, too. |
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,159 Joined: 12-April 07 From: Ork Underground Member No.: 11,440 ![]() |
Does that not end up saving you points? If you soft max Magic at 5 and then Initiate, the 6th point of Magic only costs 18BP's instead of 25. Or am I missing something? I don't see the point of raising your Magic above 6 anyway. After that it becomes much more cost effective to improve other things. Depends on the concept. A magic rating 5 vs a rating 6 means more dice to cast spells, ritual spell casting, counterspelling, summoning, banishing, binding, ...sounds like a great deal to me. A rating 7 in magic is also a great deal, but again your concept/into comes in play. WMS |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,991 Joined: 1-February 08 From: Off the rock! Back In America! WOOOOO! Member No.: 15,601 ![]() |
Here's an idea for some group backstory, Doc and Spike were part of the original team but all those people were actually older than both of us. Brought together by a shared interest in smashing Humanis skulls those older people eventually got injured, died, or retired in some fashion. We can use these previous runners as contacts which will make for a cool dynamic between "The New Guys" the "Old Hands" and the "Crotchety Old Guys".
Just a thought. I don't have RC either so I'll probably be genning without it. Code of Conduct sounds like something Doc would have anyways, how much bp is it? |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 ![]() |
We seem to have a well-rounded team, role-wise. We have muscle, magic, matrix, drones, getaway driver, healing, and face roles all covered.
Group formation-wise, it's looking like Spike and the doctor as founding members; Dancer, Glitch, Scab, and Mr. Juan's drone rigger as the second wave; and St. Just and Mongol as recent arrivals. A few ideas for how Dancer might know/interact with some of the others: As a child, Dancer liked to go off exploring the tunnels, resulting in many a scolding. Maybe she met a teenaged Scab then, when she was too young to have the ingrained prejudices of the other denizens of the Underground. Maybe she's still a bit protective of Scab, even though he can protect himself just fine with his magic now. Maybe she spars a bit with Glitch, and gives him some pointers, since he's a black belt. Maybe they both follow the unlimited martial arts circuit. Maybe the drone rigger and Glitch get together, since they're both techies, and Dancer initially met the drone rigger as kind of a "friend of a friend". Still not sure how she would have met the new guys, and still not sure how she would have gotten picked by Spike and the doctor. |
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,159 Joined: 12-April 07 From: Ork Underground Member No.: 11,440 ![]() |
Some Groups/contacts/organizations now have group contacts costs. Still working on more.
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,991 Joined: 1-February 08 From: Off the rock! Back In America! WOOOOO! Member No.: 15,601 ![]() |
Well doc's interest in the OU is out of some insane urge to build a finer world, even if that means crawling under the streets a bit (He considers smashing Humanis scum as a bonus to his job). But I imagine most of you were funneled towards Spike and Doc through the normal channels, ie. your fixers and other contacts.
"Hey Doc, I got a couple of runners looking for work. I can vouch for them being reliable and not total psychopaths." "Eh, sounds good enough to me, lets see how they run." WMS, If St. Just and Mongol are our newbies maybe this first run can be their break-in period. How's that sound to rest of you? |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,532 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 769 ![]() |
That works for me. It would work with Mongol's attempt to fit in.
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,991 Joined: 1-February 08 From: Off the rock! Back In America! WOOOOO! Member No.: 15,601 ![]() |
Do we have a dedicated face? Or just a handful of pseudo faces? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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