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HappyDaze
post Sep 9 2008, 03:52 PM
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I'm looking for suggestions on magical traditions common in and near Istanbul/Constantinople. In particular, a suggestion for a Turkish minotaur combat mage that intends to follow the Bull mentor spirit (so the Islamic magic tradition is out) would be appreciated.
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post Sep 9 2008, 04:07 PM
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No completly what you asked for maybe, but if you want a mystic background... Maybe he is a Yezidi Kurd? This is a curious minor religion who have links to pre-islamic kurdish believes, and there is kurds in Turkey. Also, that would bring a 'twice a minority' side to your character...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidi

Maybe this will be helpfull to you.
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post Sep 9 2008, 04:19 PM
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What about Zarathustra?
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post Sep 9 2008, 04:28 PM
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Only regerence I uncovered on pre-islamic shamanism in modern-day Turkey: Shamanism

[ Spoiler ]

Some of the articles I read through indicated that the Alevi tribes in Turkey still practice a form of Islam with significant shamanic influences.

I can't vouch for the entry's accuracy or neutrality.
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post Sep 9 2008, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE (Angier @ Sep 9 2008, 11:19 AM) *
What about Zarathustra?


Zoroastrism? It's more an Iran and around thing, but maybe. Constantinope/Istanbul always was cosmopolitean...
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post Sep 9 2008, 08:03 PM
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I may just opt for Hermetic, but it still feels odd to me to take mentor spirits as a mage.
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post Sep 9 2008, 08:19 PM
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How 'bout that?
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post Sep 9 2008, 08:41 PM
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How 'bout that?

Street Magic specifically spells out that Islamic tradition magicians - which would include Sufi mystics - never have mentor spirits. Since I want to take Bull as a mentor spirit, this rules out the Islamic Tradition - as I noted in my opening post.
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post Sep 9 2008, 08:59 PM
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Yeah, I'm kinda fuzzy on the finder details of Street Magic...

Then how about some form of ancient hellenic pagan... thang. I mean, the old Greeks had a thing for bulls.

Yeah, I know, you can't go back to Constantinople.
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post Sep 9 2008, 09:04 PM
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What tradition would Hellenic paganism follow? IIRC, the Hermetic seems to follow the classic Greek spirit/spell associations (very roughly since there's not really much else for comparison), but is there anything closer in Street Magic?
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post Sep 9 2008, 09:16 PM
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See Street Magic on classical patrons. The tradition would mostly be Hermeticism, or occasionally Chaos Magic (Prometheus). Black Magic should also be doable.
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post Sep 10 2008, 05:06 AM
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QUOTE (HappyDaze @ Sep 9 2008, 04:04 PM) *
What tradition would Hellenic paganism follow? IIRC, the Hermetic seems to follow the classic Greek spirit/spell associations (very roughly since there's not really much else for comparison), but is there anything closer in Street Magic?


Aside from what's been mentioned, I (and Frank and others) did a write up of Greek Paganism a while back here.

As for the Bull mentor bit, that fits nicely with the classical worship of Mithra, which would fall under the Zoroastrian tradition IMO.
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post Sep 10 2008, 07:45 AM
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There are bulls all over mythology. The Cretan Bull would be especially appropriate if your minotaur was Turkish by way of Cyprus and did the Hellenistic thing.
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post Sep 10 2008, 04:05 PM
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Rather than Cyprus, I'm actually going for a German Turk (with the Bilingual Quality for German and Turkish) that travels between Istanbul and the AGS for shadow business. Our group does a lot of travel...
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