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post Oct 8 2008, 12:24 PM
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On page 156 of Arsenal the martial arts positive quality is 5 to 20 bp but is it per style? I've seen some builds here on dumpshock that have 35bp worth of martial arts but I rule in my game that 20bp is max but you can take 4 different styles 5bp each but no more than that 20bp.

Which is it? Limiting it to 20bp would remove that +7P damage stacking...
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- BullZeye   Martial arts positive quality   Oct 8 2008, 12:24 PM
- - TKDNinjaInBlack   It's 5-20 per style. Some don't even have...   Oct 8 2008, 12:37 PM
- - ElFenrir   20 BP per style. See, by RAW, you can take 7 diff...   Oct 8 2008, 12:40 PM
- - Drogos   That 35 BP limit is only for starting characters. ...   Oct 8 2008, 01:55 PM
- - ElFenrir   I agree that there is probably some wise old maste...   Oct 8 2008, 02:44 PM
- - DTFarstar   I cap it at +4 as opposed to +2, but I think it do...   Oct 8 2008, 02:46 PM
- - MJBurrage   RAW does explicitly allow stacking the benefits of...   Oct 8 2008, 05:02 PM
|- - Sgt_Pedro   QUOTE (MJBurrage @ Oct 8 2008, 01:02 PM) ...   Oct 8 2008, 05:08 PM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (Sgt_Pedro @ Oct 8 2008, 10:08 AM) ...   Oct 8 2008, 05:46 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Anything else is a douchebag player trying t...   Oct 8 2008, 05:36 PM
- - Whipstitch   Plus, the game is rather abstract. You could have ...   Oct 8 2008, 05:50 PM
- - Sgt_Pedro   I stand corrected as to the RAW part. I just rerea...   Oct 8 2008, 06:21 PM
- - Tarantula   Yes, as with many things, it -can- cause game bala...   Oct 8 2008, 06:40 PM
- - ElFenrir   Honestly, I don't think just douchebags do it....   Oct 8 2008, 06:51 PM
- - TKDNinjaInBlack   Something just dawned on me. You have to remember...   Oct 9 2008, 12:11 AM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (TKDNinjaInBlack @ Oct 8 2008, 07:1...   Oct 9 2008, 12:48 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Just because the designers didn't have the for...   Oct 9 2008, 12:15 AM
|- - Sgt_Pedro   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Oct 8 2008, 07:1...   Oct 9 2008, 12:47 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Oct 9 2008, 08:1...   Oct 9 2008, 01:27 AM
|- - Janice   How is power gaming abusing the rules? It's ju...   Oct 9 2008, 05:08 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Janice @ Oct 8 2008, 09:08 PM) How...   Oct 9 2008, 06:28 AM
- - TKDNinjaInBlack   Not by RAW. By logic and fair balance of gameplay...   Oct 9 2008, 12:50 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (TKDNinjaInBlack @ Oct 9 2008, 08:5...   Oct 9 2008, 01:36 AM
- - Whipstitch   If that's what you want to do, then do it. I j...   Oct 9 2008, 01:02 AM
- - Platinum Dragon   By RAW, you do not have to 'pick a style....   Oct 9 2008, 01:34 AM
- - Glyph   There are already mixed martial arts in real life....   Oct 9 2008, 02:35 AM
|- - TKDNinjaInBlack   QUOTE (Glyph @ Oct 8 2008, 08:35 PM) Ther...   Oct 9 2008, 06:11 PM
- - Sgt_Pedro   My problem is with the argument that RAW means ...   Oct 9 2008, 04:29 AM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (Sgt_Pedro @ Oct 8 2008, 11:29 PM) ...   Oct 9 2008, 05:42 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Sgt_Pedro @ Oct 9 2008, 12:29 PM) ...   Oct 9 2008, 02:02 PM
|- - Sgt_Pedro   QUOTE (toturi @ Oct 9 2008, 10:02 AM) Nev...   Oct 9 2008, 05:09 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   I'm with Sgt_Pedro here. Like I said, just be...   Oct 9 2008, 04:34 AM
- - psychophipps   I do have to say that I find it rather ironic that...   Oct 9 2008, 04:53 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   That's okay. I find it ironic when people ass...   Oct 9 2008, 04:57 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   "Be reasonable" is an in-context phrase....   Oct 9 2008, 05:11 AM
- - Glyph   Personally, getting more than +2 DV offends my sen...   Oct 9 2008, 05:50 AM
|- - Sgt_Pedro   QUOTE (Glyph @ Oct 9 2008, 12:50 AM) Pers...   Oct 9 2008, 06:34 AM
- - Whipstitch   Yeah, a guy bringing a +7 DV martial artist to the...   Oct 9 2008, 06:19 AM
|- - Sgt_Pedro   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Oct 9 2008, 01:19 AM)...   Oct 9 2008, 06:36 AM
- - Tarantula   Frankly, I'd have no problem with someone blow...   Oct 9 2008, 01:27 PM
- - Ancient History   I'm just going to sit in the corner and laugh ...   Oct 9 2008, 01:39 PM
- - fistandantilus4.0   Quit calling people douchebags. Sometimes it woul...   Oct 9 2008, 05:26 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (fistandantilus4.0 @ Oct 10 2008, 01...   Oct 10 2008, 05:31 AM
- - Cain   Look at it this way: A troll adept with Critical ...   Oct 9 2008, 05:44 PM
|- - MJBurrage   QUOTE (Cain @ Oct 9 2008, 01:44 PM) Look ...   Oct 9 2008, 06:18 PM
- - ElFenrir   Well, I think one of the reasons I wanted to limit...   Oct 9 2008, 06:08 PM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (ElFenrir @ Oct 9 2008, 12:08 PM) W...   Oct 9 2008, 06:38 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Suspension of disbelief lets us except all s...   Oct 9 2008, 06:45 PM
- - ElFenrir   I guess I just can't explain it, then. It...   Oct 9 2008, 06:49 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (ElFenrir @ Oct 9 2008, 10:49 AM) B...   Oct 9 2008, 10:06 PM
- - Tarantula   Well, personally, I've never seen the utility ...   Oct 9 2008, 07:01 PM
- - ElFenrir   I kinda think that way, too. I mean...ok. I could ...   Oct 9 2008, 07:06 PM
- - Tarantula   You know, throwing weapons and adepts can get stup...   Oct 9 2008, 07:28 PM
- - ElFenrir   Well, they did nip Power Throw in the bud at level...   Oct 9 2008, 07:44 PM
- - Fortune   Unless you have the inane Distance Strike Power.   Oct 9 2008, 08:27 PM
- - ElFenrir   Hah. Well, so much for that idea.   Oct 9 2008, 08:30 PM
- - Tarantula   Except that is considerably more limited than thro...   Oct 9 2008, 08:35 PM
- - Fortune   That only works in the short term though. Since Ma...   Oct 9 2008, 08:50 PM
- - Tarantula   Cyclops, Exceptional Attribute Strength, Genetic O...   Oct 9 2008, 09:06 PM
- - Fortune   Note that I did say eventually. Edit: I expecte...   Oct 9 2008, 09:09 PM
- - ElFenrir   You know there's some insane IE out there with...   Oct 9 2008, 09:22 PM
- - Tarantula   I'd hardly call 126 meters across the city.   Oct 9 2008, 09:24 PM
- - ElFenrir   Hey, IE. He probably has a lot more than 47,000 ka...   Oct 9 2008, 09:26 PM
- - Tarantula   Then he isn't sniping with his fountain pen, h...   Oct 9 2008, 09:26 PM
- - Ravor   Although to be fair, Tarantula did say ( Strength ...   Oct 9 2008, 09:28 PM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (Ravor @ Oct 9 2008, 02:28 PM) Alth...   Oct 9 2008, 09:30 PM
- - Ravor   Ok, then your point is valid even if I would throw...   Oct 9 2008, 09:39 PM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (Ravor @ Oct 9 2008, 03:39 PM) Ok, ...   Oct 9 2008, 09:43 PM
- - Ravor   Both of course. Seriously though, I really like ...   Oct 9 2008, 09:49 PM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Ravor @ Oct 9 2008, 02:49 PM) Both...   Oct 10 2008, 02:35 AM
|- - Janice   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Oct 9 2008, 06:35 P...   Oct 10 2008, 02:44 AM
||- - TKDNinjaInBlack   QUOTE (Janice @ Oct 9 2008, 08:44 PM) Per...   Oct 10 2008, 03:55 AM
|||- - Glyph   QUOTE (TKDNinjaInBlack @ Oct 9 2008, 08:5...   Oct 10 2008, 05:04 AM
||- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Janice @ Oct 9 2008, 07:44 PM) Per...   Oct 10 2008, 05:13 AM
||- - Janice   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Oct 9 2008, 09:13 P...   Oct 10 2008, 05:17 AM
||- - Cain   QUOTE (Janice @ Oct 9 2008, 10:17 PM) The...   Oct 10 2008, 05:28 AM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Oct 9 2008, 07:35 P...   Oct 10 2008, 05:09 AM
- - Tarantula   Really? Cause strength 2 is a base of 1P for thro...   Oct 9 2008, 09:52 PM
- - Ravor   Naw, I'm just in a goofy mood today, ( Strengt...   Oct 9 2008, 09:57 PM
- - Tarantula   Nah, the trick is he has a few cyberspurs and uses...   Oct 9 2008, 09:59 PM
- - TheOOB   Now, I'll be the first to admit I have very li...   Oct 10 2008, 05:42 AM
- - Glyph   Not really. The karmagen character will still hav...   Oct 10 2008, 05:48 AM
|- - TheOOB   QUOTE (Glyph @ Oct 10 2008, 01:48 AM) Not...   Oct 10 2008, 06:25 AM
- - ElFenrir   In response to the One-Inch Punch video: Interesti...   Oct 10 2008, 08:51 AM
- - Janice   What the hell is a pornomancer?   Oct 10 2008, 09:33 AM
- - Fortune   An extremely maximized Social Adept, usually speci...   Oct 10 2008, 09:39 AM
|- - Janice   QUOTE (Fortune @ Oct 10 2008, 01:39 AM) A...   Oct 10 2008, 09:41 AM
- - ElFenrir   And then some. Rumor has it that an out of the box...   Oct 10 2008, 09:43 AM
|- - Janice   QUOTE (ElFenrir @ Oct 10 2008, 01:43 AM) ...   Oct 10 2008, 09:49 AM
- - Fortune   The last Pornomancer I saw had 51 dice for Seducti...   Oct 10 2008, 10:05 AM
|- - Janice   QUOTE (Fortune @ Oct 10 2008, 02:05 AM) T...   Oct 10 2008, 10:10 AM
- - ElFenrir   Yeah, they are highly specialized builds. Typicall...   Oct 10 2008, 10:33 AM
- - Ravor   What I think people are forgetting is that Fourth ...   Oct 10 2008, 01:21 PM
- - ElFenrir   Heh. Funny thing is, plenty of characters get plen...   Oct 10 2008, 01:34 PM
- - Ravor   Sure, and I consider that a holdover from Third Ed...   Oct 10 2008, 01:42 PM
- - psychophipps   Just for future reference, if a one inch punch sen...   Oct 10 2008, 02:44 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Oct 10 2008, 06:44 ...   Oct 10 2008, 04:24 PM
- - psychophipps   I'm starting to feel the "Max pre-mod dic...   Oct 10 2008, 02:46 PM
- - Tarantula   QUOTE (TKDNinjaInBlack @ Oct 9 2008, 09:5...   Oct 10 2008, 03:06 PM
- - TKDNinjaInBlack   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Oct 10 2008, 09:06 AM)...   Oct 10 2008, 09:00 PM
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