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Cain
post Oct 30 2008, 06:59 PM
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Punch is rather hilarious. I picture him looking like the world's angriest pixie. Like, he's pissed off that he has the little gossamer wings and everything, and he curses substantially as he's punching the hell out of something. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

Why am I picturing a winged creature with wode on his face, and calling himself a "Pictsie!"

Nac Mac Feegle! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smokin.gif)
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This has come up before, both in my game and here on Dumpshock. I don't allow it personally (and I know I'm not the only one), and limit usable 'hits' to the Force of the Sustaining Focus in question.

It should be mentioned, though, that this is a house rule. By canon, it works like Ragewind described.
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post Oct 30 2008, 10:17 PM
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I don't know, if I remember correctly RAW is actually silent on whether or not an Edge Enchanced spell can fit into sustaining foci, although if your DM allows it to work it seems to me that recasting those Edged Spells are going to hurt for everyone with the possible exception of Mr Lucky.
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post Oct 30 2008, 10:24 PM
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RAW says that spells of force equal or lesser than the foci's force can be sustained in the. RAW says that spells cast with edge can exceed the limitation of force capping hits. RAW does not say that you can not put such a spell into a foci. Therefore, it is allowed.
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post Oct 30 2008, 11:02 PM
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I don't know, if I remember correctly RAW is actually silent on whether or not an Edge Enchanced spell can fit into sustaining foci, although if your DM allows it to work it seems to me that recasting those Edged Spells are going to hurt for everyone with the possible exception of Mr Lucky.

Mr. Lucky, the original one at least, was a street samurai. So he wouldn't be casting spells in the first place. However, using karmagen, I've discovered that it's entirely possible to have an Edge 8 mage, and still have karma to spare. So, it won't hurt nearly as much as you might think. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) However, I agree with Tarantula: there's nothing indicating that you can't put a force 1 spell with 10 Edged successes into a Force 1 Sustaining Focus.
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post Oct 31 2008, 07:56 AM
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So u put a force 1 spell with X legit hits into a standard force 1 foki... thats cheap and i would not allow it(as houserule), but RAW it is possible.
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post Oct 31 2008, 09:18 AM
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Edge can make you cast a spell with more successes than the force, but that doesn't mean you can sustain it with a lower force now does it? Maybe for some, one has to have a written rule of all possible situations (like not put a cat in a microwave oven or coffee is hot) but for quite big part of folks, not everything has to be written but the common sense kicks in. It's two different things to be able to cast a spell with more than X success AND be able to stick it in a foci. Yes, technically the use of edge doesn't increase the force of the spell itself, but the foci has a limitation of keeping force or lower spell in it and accordingly adjust the hits made with the roll.

But yes yes, I know, by RAW it's all good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/proof.gif)
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post Oct 31 2008, 10:00 AM
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