 WizKids No More, Topps is Dumping WizKids |
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 Nov 13 2008, 01:50 PM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 21-April 02 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 2,631  |
Greetings All,
Just found this out via Nodwick.com, but it seems that Topps Brand has decided that they do not want to be in the game business anymore and is divesting itself of WizKids. Don't they own the core IP of Shadowrun and Battletech? I know that other companies are making products in those lines now, but I thought that WizKids still owned the right to take it all back or shut it down if they saw fit. Blackat WizKids notice |
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Nov 13 2008, 02:30 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
The Battletech IP is still owned by FASA, who licenses it to both Red Brick and Living Room Games.
As for Shadowrun, all I know is that Adam has basically said that everything is cool. He has not elaborated here though, to the best of my knowledge. |
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Nov 13 2008, 02:44 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 151 Joined: 28-August 08 From: Berlin, Germany Member No.: 16,285 |
Anything that happens to Wizkids doesn't change existing and binding contracts. If Wizkids doesn't exist anymore, any rights that company had will go back to Topps, including any contracts that have to do with these rights. So for Catalyst, that doesn't change anything: They are producing SR stuff because they have the right to do so (by contract), and that contract is still valid.
What happens after the contract has expired is anyone's guess, but I think it most likely that Topps will try to sell the rights to Catalyst (or any other bidder). For Catalyst, that may even be a good thing happening, as they would have more liberties with regard to SR rights if they owned them directly, instead of "burrowing" them from Wizkids/Topps. |
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Nov 13 2008, 05:32 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
QUOTE (Fortune @ Nov 13 2008, 03:30 PM)  The Battletech IP is still owned by FASA, who licenses it to both Red Brick and Living Room Games. i thought fasa was gone... |
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Nov 13 2008, 06:22 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Nov 13 2008, 10:32 AM) i thought fasa was gone... I don't think the corp shell is gone, which is what would hold the IP. |
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Nov 13 2008, 06:45 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
zombie corp's, gotta love em...
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Nov 13 2008, 08:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 151 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Reutlingen.de Member No.: 677 |
Looky here: initial CGL Statement , and here: CGL follow up statement
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Nov 13 2008, 09:43 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
QUOTE (Fortune @ Nov 13 2008, 09:30 AM) The Battletech IP is still owned by FASA, who licenses it to both Red Brick and Living Room Games. You mean Earthdawn, which is still owned by FASA and licensed to Red Brick [but no longer Living Room Games, who are, as best I know, no longer publishing anything.] |
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Nov 13 2008, 10:01 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
My bad. I did mean Earthdawn. Not enough coffee ... It was late ... Too many drugs ... I was tired ... I'm senile ... Not enough drugs ... Pick an excuse or two to suit your taste. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/embarrassed.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Nov 13 2008, 10:05 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
That's news about LRG though. At least it's news to me.
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Nov 14 2008, 03:34 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Gee, ghost cors holding copyrights but producing nothnig and sellnig them out to other corps that disappear? Jeez, who says SR isn't real. I think I dated a couple of orks in hs.
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Nov 14 2008, 05:24 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
Yep, those orks make great athletes.
Copyright and patents are big biz, and possibly the biggest export for USA (so no wonder that there is a big push to get the rest of the world to view them the USA way). |
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Nov 14 2008, 05:25 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
QUOTE (Fortune @ Nov 13 2008, 05:05 PM) That's news about LRG though. At least it's news to me. Not missing out on much IMO. The Red Brick stuff is much better. Sometimes you can judge a book by it's cover. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Nov 14 2008, 05:36 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
And is probably the future, that is, if lulu get their shipment costs sorted...
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Nov 14 2008, 09:37 AM
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Grand Master of Run-Fu Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178 |
QUOTE (kzt @ Nov 13 2008, 10:22 AM) I don't think the corp shell is gone, which is what would hold the IP. Basically, FASA only exists on paper, and acts as a holding house for some of the various IP's. Earthdawn is one; I believe VOR and Crimson Skies are another. |
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Nov 14 2008, 01:13 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
didnt microsoft gain full control over crimson skies thru fasa interactive? same fasa interactive thats now defunct after that shadowrun xbox game?
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Nov 14 2008, 01:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 |
QUOTE (Cain @ Nov 14 2008, 10:37 AM) Basically, FASA only exists on paper, and acts as a holding house for some of the various IP's. Earthdawn is one; I believe VOR and Crimson Skies are another. AFAIK VOR is now owned by its original creator who hasn't since found a new company to produce it (perhaps he's given up). |
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Nov 14 2008, 01:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Nov 14 2008, 02:13 PM) didnt microsoft gain full control over crimson skies thru fasa interactive? AFAIK Microsoft has always owned Crimson Skies and only licensed FASA to make the miniatures game. |
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Nov 14 2008, 02:10 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
QUOTE (fistandantilus4.0 @ Nov 14 2008, 06:25 AM) Not missing out on much IMO. The Red Brick stuff is much better. Sometimes you can judge a book by it's cover. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Wait 'til you've seen the Kratas book. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Nov 14 2008, 02:41 PM
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Grand Master of Run-Fu Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Nov 14 2008, 05:13 AM) didnt microsoft gain full control over crimson skies thru fasa interactive? same fasa interactive thats now defunct after that shadowrun xbox game? IIRC, Crimson Skies the game has stayed with FASA. The video game rights left with FASA Interactive, as well as the Mechwarrior and Shadowrun video game lines. But FASA interactive never held the RPG rights to those games. |
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Nov 14 2008, 05:26 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 697 Joined: 18-August 07 Member No.: 12,735 |
Who got Renegade Legion?
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Nov 14 2008, 05:42 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 |
QUOTE (MYST1C @ Nov 14 2008, 06:22 AM) AFAIK VOR is now owned by its original creator who hasn't since found a new company to produce it (perhaps he's given up). He does? I know FASA screwed him around for over a year after agreeing to turn the IP over to him, then I lost contact. |
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