 ATTN WRITERS: Why have no big NPCs died?, Apart from Dunkie and Aneki that is... |
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 Dec 20 2008, 01:20 AM
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The ShadowComedian  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525  |
don't make me rifle through my books to find out which one that is in german please <.< . .
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Dec 20 2008, 01:22 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Nacht-something? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Dec 20 2008, 01:29 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Nachtstreife, thank you . . i am tired and my brain is flooded with caffeine . . i cannot brain right now, i have the dumb <.< . .
and i don't really remember much rigging in there . . that was the one about the newly turned vampire right? |
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Dec 20 2008, 02:05 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Nope. It's the one with Alamais. The rigging was done by a Texas t-bird driver and his crew. Not a huge part, but cool none-the-less. It's one of my favorite Shadowrun novels. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Dec 20 2008, 02:22 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
. . . damn you, i will have to read that again to know what the hell we are talking about <.< . .
my favourite is shelley . . i love the humor in that one . . close second is ASH, the athmosphere is just perfect in the concert scene |
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Dec 20 2008, 04:18 AM
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Deus Absconditus Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 |
Honestly, if I had a dollar for every time something in SR fiction contradicted rulebooks, I would have made myself a dashing bowler hat of dollar bills by now.
Shit, you can ALMOST play that game with ADVENTURES contradicting other source material. DNA/DOA, I'm looking at you! Seriously. Assume demographics data is flexible, flawed, or otherwise not written with the same iron hand as "When you reach Essence 0, you die." It'll save you headaches. |
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Dec 20 2008, 04:58 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Dec 20 2008, 01:22 PM)  my favourite is shelley . . i love the humor in that one . . close second is ASH, the athmosphere is just perfect in the concert scene (IMG:style_emoticons/default/question.gif) German novels? |
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Dec 20 2008, 11:20 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
yep.
the best of the newer ones i think . . as for the old stuff, there's dead air my favourite ^^ i especially like how in the end it was all on chip, but once you leave the cinema, you still get that white noise in your head . . |
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Dec 20 2008, 11:55 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 24-July 08 From: Resonance Realms, behind the 2nd Star Member No.: 16,162 |
Shelley had some cool Moments and it was a very awesome read, although i regard the autor still as a weird potatoe.
But, one of the coolest Shadowrun i've ever read was Wiener Blei (from 98, translated Viennese Lead). Sick if read with the rules in the back of the head, confusing if you have no idea of the background, but quite cool written and some good laughs. Much better then GMBH and Cash Flow anyway. |
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Dec 20 2008, 01:27 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 |
Does anyone know what happened to Brighteyes (aka. Leonardo the elf)? I know it was suggested that Lofwyr took him - as opposed to killing him - since the body was never found...
- J. |
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Dec 20 2008, 03:19 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Rumor has it that Lofwyr has him tucked away in Antarctica, slaving away on new tech.
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Dec 20 2008, 03:51 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Cthulhutech! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)
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Dec 21 2008, 07:35 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,851 Joined: 15-February 08 From: Indianapolis Member No.: 15,686 |
QUOTE (Fortune @ Dec 19 2008, 05:18 PM) The last statement about novels and canon that I recall was back in the FanPro days. It was said that all but one of the (English) novels are considered to be canon. In the September/post-Gencon public dev chat, Peter Taylor announced the return of SR novels and the following was stated:QUOTE This time round Catalyst has control of the novels, not a third party publisher or Wizkids. We have editorial control. Not only will contents be canon but the stories will be set in the current version of the setting. I've always thought that SR tie-in novels were out-of-continuity (like Star Trek books or any other licensed property tie-in work) and Peter's comment makes me think that, while the new novels are kosher, the older FASA/Roc books are OOC. The Earthdawn crossover stuff, like the Dragonheart trilogy, would be tricky to reconcile from an intellectual property standpoint. Of course what's official today could be unofficial tomorrow. And I fully admit that I could be way off base. No one has denied a Redbrick/Catalyst crossover in Dawn of the Artifacts. |
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Dec 21 2008, 08:08 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Note that Synner doesn't actually state that the older novels are not canon. merely that this time, along with them being considered canon, they will also be firmly grounded in the actual setting, as opposed to some of the earlier books, who's authors were not all that familiar with the Sixth World.
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Dec 21 2008, 08:11 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
note that appearantly the new german novels are canon, but generally considered sub-par compared to the older novels . .
i really hate most of the new german novels . . i would rather have the old ones, over the top like sly stallone they might be, to be made canon . . |
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Dec 21 2008, 08:15 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
heh, im tempted to view german and english shadowrun as two different dimensions...
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Dec 21 2008, 08:17 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
yeah . . better that way . . if all german stuff were non canon, i'd be happy . . and i am german <.< . .
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Dec 21 2008, 08:24 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
how about this, german stuff is canon with other german stuff, but not canon with english stuff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Dec 22 2008, 03:39 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 |
Speaking of novels and non-canon, I always wondered how Spider became a valid PC totem after the events of the Secrets of Power trilogy....
LOL. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) - J. |
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Dec 22 2008, 05:07 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 265 Joined: 15-September 08 From: Florida Member No.: 16,346 |
And how Infected are now valid PC metavariants after the second book of the Secrets of Power Trilogy? Bloody cannibals.
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Dec 22 2008, 10:30 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 24-July 08 From: Resonance Realms, behind the 2nd Star Member No.: 16,162 |
*sarcasm* Or how AIs are valid PCs after that whole Crash and Arcology Stuff.
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Dec 21 2008, 09:17 PM) yeah . . better that way . . if all german stuff were non canon, i'd be happy . . and i am german <.< . . QFT |
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Dec 22 2008, 01:55 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,851 Joined: 15-February 08 From: Indianapolis Member No.: 15,686 |
Can we agree that anything that's badly written is OOC? Oh, wait... What's "bad"? Uh... see you! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Dec 22 2008, 03:36 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
most of the german only stuff can be considered pretty bad . .
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Dec 22 2008, 03:41 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 |
Back to the root issue-
Who would like to see characters either die/disappear or at the very least CHANGE in 20+ years? - J. |
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Dec 22 2008, 04:13 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,851 Joined: 15-February 08 From: Indianapolis Member No.: 15,686 |
QUOTE (The Jake @ Dec 22 2008, 10:41 AM) Who would like to see characters either die/disappear or at the very least CHANGE in 20+ years? They have. Shadowland posters such as Prime Runner, XStar, and my old favorite, Orklander (ORKLAND! ORKLAND! ORKLAND! [Can someone ban this guy?]), are no longer mentioned in the rule book or campaign fiction pieces. And someone dies in the fiction piece of Ghost Cartels. |
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