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> Ages of named NPCs in sourcebooks, How [I]old[/I] are they?
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post Jan 3 2004, 03:37 AM
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I was wondering from the Seattle Yakuza thread that it would really suck if the NPCs we used were suddenly die of old age and we were still thinking they were alive. So who are the candidates for one leg in the box?

I am not so interested in the IEs but more so in other meta-humans' ages, like Tir Princes Rex and Larry, people like Damien Knight and Fastjack.
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post Jan 3 2004, 05:30 AM
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Damien Knight has undergone Leonization at least once, so should be in no danger of dropping dead of old age any time soon.

Fastjack was born in 1999, making him 64 years old as of the latest release. No official news as to whether he is ready to keel over, but if he's as good as his rep says, then he has also probably undergone Leonization.
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post Jan 3 2004, 08:29 AM
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Not to sound uninformed, but what's Leonization? Does it have something to do with lions?
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post Jan 3 2004, 08:33 AM
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Age rejuvenation. It's an expensive treatment that basically gives a person back their youth.
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post Jan 3 2004, 08:43 AM
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I figured as much. Why do they have to give it a funky name? Couldn't they just call it like, the Rejuvenotron, or something?
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post Jan 3 2004, 09:00 AM
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It was named after Ponce de Leon as the Fountain of Youth, therefore you have Leonization.

If you can pick up a copy of Shadowtech to flip through it goes into it all. They also updated it for SR3 in SOTA:2063, but I haven't been able to get ahold of a copy of it yet so I don't know how much info they rehash in it.
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post Jan 3 2004, 09:43 AM
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I once saw a copy of SOTA: 2063 in my local gaming store. I had no money, so, I came back the next day. It was gone. When I asked the shopkeep about it, he replied.

"Buy something or get the hell out, before I break my foot off in your ass."

His words were true. The mystical SOTA: 2063 was gone, never to be seen again.

Damn my local gaming store sucks. It's all D&D crap, and no-name publisher crap that has been sitting and will continue to sit on the shelves forever.
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post Jan 3 2004, 05:58 PM
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post Jan 3 2004, 06:01 PM
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So maybe we should start a Shadowrun Dead Pool?
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post Jan 3 2004, 09:50 PM
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Basically the process now costs some bioindex (as it is messing with your body after all). I think it can only be done in orbit (making it megabucks before even considering what it does), and is EXPENSIVE.

It also mentioned that it could only be done some many times (the bio cost), as it couldn't be used to mess with the brain. That spurred some questions in my brain, but that's a different post :)

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post Jan 4 2004, 04:23 AM
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Um... Am I alone in thinking that it should cost Essence like it did in Shadowtech?
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post Jan 4 2004, 04:25 AM
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Yes. Why would it do that?

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post Jan 4 2004, 05:03 AM
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Why dont these poeple just really kiss ass to some free spirits and have them use hidden life on them if i am not mistaken it gives you imunity to age.
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post Jan 4 2004, 05:16 AM
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That gives the free spirit, and by extension anyone who learns the spirit's name, a hold on the person. Unacceptable risk.

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post Jan 4 2004, 05:26 AM
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well the way i look at it if ur 99 and about to die and you only have one more Leonization left i think that risk would be pretty acceptable to me.

on another note the book dosent say and me and my GM disagree on this. Can the spirit take away the hidden life or is it perminant.
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post Jan 4 2004, 05:37 AM
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If you were a free spirit, would you really want to hide your life force inside a 99 year old man/woman?

Edit: Hidden life is permanent. It says so in the first line of the description for the power in MitS.
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post Jan 4 2004, 05:49 AM
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post Jan 4 2004, 05:51 AM
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after a Leonization he wouldnt really be 99 anymore. while i dont know exactly how much age a Leonization can take off u get the point that im trying to make. If in fact you can only use Leonization so many times; after that last time im pretty sure that the people who use it and are so addicted to youth if you would would try anything to keep it reguardless of the risk.
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post Jan 4 2004, 05:56 AM
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QUOTE
Edit: Hidden life is permanent. It says so in the first line of the description for the power in MitS.


Musta missed thd through. My GM tends to think that it is a removeable thing. While i tend to think taht it would be permanent. Another thought i know that if you bind a free spirit it will try to work against you to kill you so why not just force it to use hidden life on you if you die it dies :D wouldnt that prevent it from working against you?
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post Jan 4 2004, 05:57 AM
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QUOTE (Voorhees)
Be the last place anyone looked.

Not really. People would start wondering how Grandpa suddenly gained the virility of an Olympic athlete. :P
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post Jan 4 2004, 06:00 AM
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QUOTE (Joker9125)
wouldnt that prevent it from working against you?

It would encourage the spirit to get you cryogenically frozen. Or maybe a quickened petrification...
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post Jan 4 2004, 06:21 AM
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If someone else gets the spirit's true name, it don't matter one bit whether or not the spirit wants to work against you.

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post Jan 4 2004, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Jan 4 2004, 02:21 PM)
If someone else gets the spirit's true name, it don't matter one bit whether or not the spirit wants to work against you.

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Then buy insurance. The spirit puts its Hidden Life in you and you get its True Name too.

You may get some Mental Flaws but since you have its True Name and its Hidden Life, it is not going to mess you up too much either.

That way the two of you are symbiotic and even if someone else gets the spirit's True Name you can wrest control from the other bozo. Kinda like a tag team. Taking on either of you is taking on both of you.
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post Jan 4 2004, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0 @ Jan 3 2004, 11:23 PM)
Um... Am I alone in thinking that it should cost Essence like it did in Shadowtech?

I think you are. As per the quote I put in the Bone Lacing thread, Leonization doesn't use any neural pathways to add something unnatural to your body.

Edit: Clicky!
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post Jan 4 2004, 05:39 PM
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And the spirit would do this why?

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