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 Jan 4 2004, 09:18 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 30-May 03 From: Tulsa, OK Member No.: 4,652  |
I guess I may have to break out my books and see then. The key word there might be 'similar'. Since that implies it's not the same. Perhaps that's what I get for posting without having bothered to break out Man and Machine lately.
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Jan 4 2004, 09:22 AM
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Senior GM Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,406 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Redmond, WA Member No.: 4,442 |
The errata reads as follows:
p. 78 Bioware and the Awakened [4] Replace the third, fourth and fifth paragraphs with the following: The removed paragraphs include the description of "virtual reduction in Magic Rating". Since that description is now gone, there is no longer a virtual loss of Magic. |
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Jan 4 2004, 09:24 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,685 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 3,123 |
Damn, I was just about to post that.
ed- The errata does say so explicitly, too. "Magic reduction from bioware functions like other forms of Magic loss-adepts lose some of their powers, for example." |
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Jan 4 2004, 09:29 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
And that's what I get for posting without checking! :oops: It's actually a good thing™ in my opinion to get rid of the 'virtual' crap. :) |
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Jan 4 2004, 09:32 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 30-May 03 From: Tulsa, OK Member No.: 4,652 |
You know, I completely read past that section of errata awhile back. Yay for us both!
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Jan 4 2004, 09:33 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I'm glad you brought it up. :) |
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Jan 4 2004, 09:46 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,685 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 3,123 |
I couldn't agree with you more :) |
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Jan 4 2004, 03:10 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
This is mostly correct. Have a quote.
Why does Bone Lacing cause Essence loss, you ask? Does it not hurt when you break a bone? Those nerves must be reconnected to the laced bones, thusly causing a loss of Essence. |
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Jan 4 2004, 04:46 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 369 Joined: 1-September 03 From: New York State Member No.: 5,563 |
Wait. I'm confused now. Are you saying that with the errata there is NO magic loss from bio-ware?
Thanos :wobble: |
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Jan 4 2004, 04:52 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
There is magic loss, just not virtual magic loss (Which you could still Initiate out of).
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Jan 4 2004, 05:59 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
The magic loss from bioware is now just as real as the magic loss from reduced essense. If by bioware and cyberware you reach a magic rating of zero, then you are fully mundane.
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Jan 5 2004, 05:06 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 26-February 02 From: UCAS Member No.: 1,015 |
"There are 215 bones in the human body. That's one." |
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Jan 5 2004, 06:07 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
the real question is, how is titanium lacing more invasive/disruptive than, say, kevlar, ceramic, or plastic lacing?
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Jan 5 2004, 06:11 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Good question. Uh... It's... Uh... Heavier? Wait, that contradicts my posts in the Lacing+Stealth thread... Uh... Improvement? I mean, uh... It just... Does! So there! :P |
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Jan 5 2004, 06:14 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,156 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Fresno, CalFree Member No.: 4,252 |
"Eeeehh! Sorry doc, that's wrong! Would you like to go for double jeopardy, where the scores can really get high?" The human body contains 206 bones. Sarah Conner was wrong. Also, that was an attempt at quoting Die Hard. I haven't seen it in a while. |
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Jan 5 2004, 06:18 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Actually, according to this site, the number changes as a human ages. :) |
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Jan 5 2004, 06:21 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
*twitch* Random colors, cheesey graphics, inane use of header tags... Yup, it's a college-kid-with-no-proper-HTML-skills site! I should so trademark that... |
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Jan 5 2004, 06:23 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Oh well. It was the first site listed in my Google search. :D
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Jan 5 2004, 06:23 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,156 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Fresno, CalFree Member No.: 4,252 |
Proves me point. |
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Jan 5 2004, 06:25 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I didn't argue that point. My point is that, at some stage in the human's life, he'll (probably) have 215, as they slowly fuse together. In a way, that makes Mr. Man right, only not in the way he thought he was. :D
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Jan 5 2004, 06:26 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,156 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Fresno, CalFree Member No.: 4,252 |
Sarah Connor was talking about a grown man, Dr. Silberman, who would have had 206 bones.
He quoted Sarah's incorrect statement, and thus was incorrect himself. |
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Jan 5 2004, 07:32 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,685 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 3,123 |
Shouldn't that be true for current replacement bones? Pins too. My friend recently got a couple of titanium vertebrae. My mothers husband has a ceramic sternum and two knees with more metal in them than Voltron. Surely it would hurt if I shattered their knees, sternum, and vertebrae! I think it would've been much easier and more consistent to say that pacemakers and bone pins do in fact carry a small Essense cost. What's the big deal if the game asserts that my grandfather with the replacement hip actually has 5.85 Essense instead of 6? |
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Jan 5 2004, 08:15 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Your mothers husband?? Why just say your dad? |
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Jan 5 2004, 08:22 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Because it isn't his dad, maybe? It could possibly be his mother's husband, a person she married after she and his dad were no longer together. He might not like the term 'step-dad'. :)
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Jan 5 2004, 08:22 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 608 Joined: 9-July 02 From: California Member No.: 2,955 |
Perhaps it was a stepfather deal? Don't call on people with that stuff, its just not nice.
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