 Ghost Cartels Epilogue: The Missing Pages Revealed!, Posted today |
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 Jan 18 2009, 01:01 AM
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MechRigger Delux  Group: Retired Admins Posts: 1,151 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Hanger 18, WPAFB Member No.: 1,657  |
This was posted up today, Got my read on and said.. .hmm, looks like my storyline just went 95 degrees on a tangent from where I thought this was going. Anyone else have a sudden change in how they see Ghost Cartels going now? Going to change up anyone's play style? Going to blow the metaplot's head up?
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Jan 18 2009, 01:26 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
It pained me to have to cut this from the actual book, but in hindsight the wait has made the twist even better. I hope everyone likes. Kudos to Jennifer for bringing it to life. As for the metaplot... I plan really long term. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Jan 18 2009, 02:00 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 9-March 08 From: FDC Member No.: 15,756 |
Loving the long term metaplot feeling. This is why I love a good story. 2 simple (albiet well written) pages can change the hole perspective I had on the plot resolution. Love it. Have enough time go by that the players don't realize what is going on... then slowly creeping back into their lives bam the Primeira Vaga become their new problem.
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Jan 18 2009, 02:11 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 21-July 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 7,508 |
QUOTE (Synner @ Jan 17 2009, 08:26 PM)  It pained me to have to cut this from the actual book Not as much as it pained me!!! |
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Jan 18 2009, 02:43 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 |
I had assumed that the dream seeds were for an ulterior purpose for spirits to possess humans. But what kinds of spirits and for what purpose?
After the events of Ghost Cartels I had assumed that Aztechnology would simply absorb the secret of tempo sales and use it to create additional profits or potentially, as a way to pave the way for The Enemy to arrive ahead of schedule (by possessing tempo victims). Now I'm not so sure. It was clear from the GC that Primeira Vaga had an ulterior purpose and destiny not yet explained (one that will be revealled). However, it is very clear now that they are far from done and that Ghost Cartels was simply the beginning of something far more insidious. I would expect given Aztechnology's access to magical resources, access to Riveiros/Yaje and the secret of tempo that they may even determine what is going on - ahead of everyone else. Perhaps, in a rather bizarre twist, Aztechnology may yet one day become the 'heroes' by stopping Primeira Vaga... ? Now THAT would be interesting.... - J. |
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Jan 18 2009, 03:34 AM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
Hmm, I don't know, I didn't get anything new from the story. Isn't this all what was layed out in GC? Still, I found it very well written and an enjoyable story. I'm happy it was posted.
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Jan 18 2009, 03:56 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 992 Joined: 2-August 06 Member No.: 9,006 |
QUOTE (Backgammon @ Jan 17 2009, 11:34 PM) Hmm, I don't know, I didn't get anything new from the story. Isn't this all what was layed out in GC? Still, I found it very well written and an enjoyable story. I'm happy it was posted. Well, it was hinted at..but not exactly spelled out as we see it. *hmmms* Well, I expect the ED haters are going to be whining and oaning about that...I mean, it seems like a Passion is the one responsible, or else, a really, really old free spirit... |
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Jan 18 2009, 11:43 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 18 2009, 10:43 AM) It was clear from the GC that Primeira Vaga had an ulterior purpose and destiny not yet explained (one that will be revealled). However, it is very clear now that they are far from done and that Ghost Cartels was simply the beginning of something far more insidious. I would expect given Aztechnology's access to magical resources, access to Riveiros/Yaje and the secret of tempo that they may even determine what is going on - ahead of everyone else. Perhaps, in a rather bizarre twist, Aztechnology may yet one day become the 'heroes' by stopping Primeira Vaga... ? Now THAT would be interesting.... - J. Indeed it would be. But it could be just as likely that Amazonia steps in to "clean house". With 2 GDs on board, Hualpa and Sirrurg, it could well be the dragons that step in to excise the cancer. Or throw the rabid dogs into Aztlan's backyard. |
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Jan 18 2009, 03:29 PM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
Sounds from the story, though, that even if they deal with the cancer in Amazonia, there's enough tempo out there and enough pacts made with users that it may not be enough....
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Jan 19 2009, 12:24 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 |
QUOTE (Dashifen @ Jan 18 2009, 03:29 PM) Sounds from the story, though, that even if they deal with the cancer in Amazonia, there's enough tempo out there and enough pacts made with users that it may not be enough.... I think the point being is that even if there is not a gram of tempo created ever again, the damage is done.... - J. |
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Jan 19 2009, 08:24 PM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 9,684 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
QUOTE (The Jake @ Jan 17 2009, 07:43 PM) Perhaps, in a rather bizarre twist, Aztechnology may yet one day become the 'heroes' by stopping Primeira Vaga... ? Now THAT would be interesting.... - J. Why must it be that Primeira Vaga and its Mentor are the bad guys? Even if their methods seem violent and locally destructive. Nature 'cleans house' as someone above said in ways that seem harsh to the sensibilities of 'civilized' men. What if this is a carefully planned campaign to prepare for the coming of the Horrors in a way that will allow the children of Gaia to repel them this time, preventing the rape of the planet that has happened before? A mother sometimes must use tough love. Peter |
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Jan 20 2009, 12:16 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 20-October 08 Member No.: 16,537 |
QUOTE (Synner @ Jan 18 2009, 02:26 AM) I plan really long term. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) You dragon.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Jan 20 2009, 02:41 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
QUOTE (AllTheNothing @ Jan 20 2009, 08:16 AM) You dragon.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Heh... when I hear "long term" in relation to gaming, that usually just means they are preparing for the next edition. |
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Jan 20 2009, 06:42 AM
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Grand Master of Run-Fu Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178 |
QUOTE (toturi @ Jan 19 2009, 06:41 PM) Heh... when I hear "long term" in relation to gaming, that usually just means they are preparing for the next edition. Dumpshock doesn't have a point system, but a Truth point for you nonetheless. I can't say this changes anything in My Review. While it's a better ending, it still doesn't really save the final chapter. I don't really see it as a "twist", since the seeds had already been sown, if you'll pardon the pun. If anything, it heightens the fact that the editing could have been better, since this is clearly the superior ending. |
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Jan 20 2009, 01:05 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
QUOTE (toturi @ Jan 20 2009, 02:41 AM) Heh... when I hear "long term" in relation to gaming, that usually just means they are preparing for the next edition. All it means is that I have at least two full story arcs in development before this particular metaplot comes to a head (though it will continue to unfold through out coming products whether or not it relates to the main plotlines in those books). I can honestly say we have no plans for a 5th Edition at this point. |
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May 14 2011, 08:04 AM
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Target Group: New Member Probation Posts: 4 Joined: 28-April 10 Member No.: 18,516 |
I have a question. Why this material disappeared from the official site and where i may find him.
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May 14 2011, 09:34 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
QUOTE (Caine Hazen @ Jan 18 2009, 03:01 AM) This was posted up today, Got my read on and said.. .hmm, looks like my storyline just went 95 degrees on a tangent from where I thought this was going. Anyone else have a sudden change in how they see Ghost Cartels going now? Going to change up anyone's play style? Going to blow the metaplot's head up? link dead. |
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May 14 2011, 03:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 748 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Vermont Member No.: 11,507 |
...speculation deleted...
Update: Link death/change due to a shadowrun4.com update. (see below) |
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May 14 2011, 03:33 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,782 Joined: 28-August 09 Member No.: 17,566 |
Well, someone send Hardy a PM already, or something.
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May 14 2011, 05:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 748 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Vermont Member No.: 11,507 |
The Dream Seed (and other downloads at the CGL site) has moved, but links have not been updated.
Looks like they moved the entire site to old... before revising the www... site recently, but did not fix all the links before it went live. |
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May 14 2011, 05:35 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
oy vey . .
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May 14 2011, 06:00 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,755 Joined: 5-September 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 9,313 |
Wonder exactly what Synners other two arcs were and if we'll ever find out the secrets behind tempo....
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May 14 2011, 06:23 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,768 Joined: 31-October 08 From: Redmond (Yes, really) Member No.: 16,558 |
[ Spoiler ]
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May 14 2011, 08:55 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,182 Joined: 5-December 07 From: Lower UCAS, along the border Member No.: 14,507 |
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May 15 2011, 03:31 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 16,538 |
Well, the world needed a new Winternight and the PV are a good twist on the apocalyptic cultist theory. Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and they'll bring back the Horrors - except without the Immortal Elves Doing It All. Or get to shoot one in the face. Maybe both. Not likely, though.
(Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of the IE's but Harlequin and Harlequin's back are just 'DEFEND THE MCGUFFIN WHILE IT KILLS SOMEONE/SAVES YOU ALL.'. Aina is still a lovely character.) |
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