Combat and Spirits Options

[nedoking]

In the SR4 book it states that manifested spirits have double their force rating versus non-magical physical attacks. So that means that this applies to guns, swords, etc, so long as they are not magical. OK - nothing different here from SR3.

It also says, "Only the truly courageous, driven or mad have enough force of personality to allow their attacks to affect a spirit." Would someone please tell me what section of the rules this instance? I have read through the combat section and the section on Spirits (pg 170 - 180-ish) and did not see anything.

My memory is that SR3 said that basically you could make a melee attack based on force of will against them at "normal" defenses. However, I cannot find anything like this in SR4.

Any help is appreciated.

Thank you,
nedoking

[DireRadiant]

I think it's in street magic. Someone will have a reference soon.

[Malachi]

Street Magic p. 94

When in melee with a spirit, a character may elect to
make an attack of will rather than a normal melee strike. The
character rolls his Banishing + Willpower (or just Willpower)
as his dice pool, and his base Damage Value is (Charisma)P
regardless of whether he is attacking with a spanner, combat
axe, or his bare hands. Reach modifiers (attacker’s or spirit’s)
do not apply to this test. The attack of will bypasses the spirit’s
Immunity to Normal Weapons and is otherwise resolved as a
normal melee attack (see p. 146, SR4). This form of attack is
only effective against spirits.

[nedoking]

Many thanks!