 Move By Wire, Clarification |
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 Jan 22 2009, 05:10 PM
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Great Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387  |
QUOTE (Augmentation, page 41) The move-by-wire system confers a bonus of +2 to the character's Reaction attribute, +1 to the characters Dodge skill rating, and +1 Initiative Pass per point of rating. Does that mean that rating 2 MbW gives +4 Reaction, +2 Dodge, +2 IP? Or do you just get the Reaction once, and the rest of the bonuses per rating? Otherwise, you end up with +6 Reaction from these bad boys, meaning you only need an average of 3 to get your average character to max augmented of 9, without any other 'ware. |
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Jan 22 2009, 05:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 992 Joined: 23-December 08 From: the Tampa Sprawl Member No.: 16,707 |
Adds +2 Reaction, +1 Dodge (Skill Modifier), and +1IP per rating.
You are correct that rating 3 MbW and a base reaction of 3 gives a augmented reaction of 9. Remember that since the Dodge bonus is a skill modifier, you can only use up to half your actual Dodge skill in bonus dice. *EDIT Below* And don't forget that they are skillwires also. Can't remember the exact ratio there though. |
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Jan 22 2009, 05:37 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,228 Joined: 24-July 07 From: Canada Member No.: 12,350 |
Yes, Move-by-Wire kicks serious butt. As it should be.
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Jan 22 2009, 05:40 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
Even as a player, I kinda wish I had read that wrong. Extreme.
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Jan 22 2009, 06:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 992 Joined: 23-December 08 From: the Tampa Sprawl Member No.: 16,707 |
QUOTE (Neraph @ Jan 22 2009, 12:40 PM)  Even as a player, I kinda wish I had read that wrong. Extreme. And actually not as nasty as MbW in SR3. Using the best from SR3 (MbW 4), it was possible to get an inititive total of ~27+5d6, with a two actions on your first and second pass. That will give you between 6 and 8 passes per combat round. Yikes! [Have not looked at the exact numbers for several years, but I did have a major baddy in my SR3 game with MbW4 whos totals are pretty close to what I have writen. Base inititive might have been in the teens, which would still net him 5 to 7 passes per combat round] |
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Jan 22 2009, 06:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 573 Joined: 6-March 08 Member No.: 15,746 |
And instantly make him a Cyberzombie (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)
IIRC MBW 3+ had essence in the 6-7 range, right? |
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Jan 22 2009, 06:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 992 Joined: 23-December 08 From: the Tampa Sprawl Member No.: 16,707 |
QUOTE (Drogos @ Jan 22 2009, 01:19 PM) And instantly make him a Cyberzombie (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif) IIRC MBW 3+ had essence in the 6-7 range, right? MBW1~3 had the same essence as wired reflexes. MBW4 was 7 essence. Deltagrade only cost 3.5 essence (and something like 12 million nuyen). He was an update of the "Million Dollar Man", the "Fifty Million Nuyen Man". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif) |
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Jan 22 2009, 07:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 573 Joined: 6-March 08 Member No.: 15,746 |
It's scary how close I can get after not looking at that stuff for 7+ years. Damn useless knowledges.
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Jan 22 2009, 07:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: 5-January 09 Member No.: 16,733 |
QUOTE It's scary how close I can get after not looking at that stuff for 7+ years. Damn useless knowledges. What's even worse is when you can't remember those useless facts anymore but you've got nothing useful to replace them with. Wasted youth is fun until you get old! |
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Jan 22 2009, 07:25 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,228 Joined: 24-July 07 From: Canada Member No.: 12,350 |
QUOTE (Drogos @ Jan 22 2009, 03:12 PM) It's scary how close I can get after not looking at that stuff for 7+ years. Damn useless knowledges. Drogos RPG Game Stats (Street Knowledge) 6 |
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Jan 22 2009, 07:28 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 573 Joined: 6-March 08 Member No.: 15,746 |
If only I could use my powers for good...and by good I mean profit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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Jan 22 2009, 07:31 PM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 10,338 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
QUOTE (Browncoatone @ Jan 22 2009, 12:17 PM) What's even worse is when you can't remember those useless facts anymore but you've got nothing useful to replace them with. Wasted youth is fun until you get old! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/notworthy.gif) Peter |
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Jan 22 2009, 07:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 113 Joined: 11-December 05 From: Philadelphia, UCAS Member No.: 8,063 |
QUOTE (Neraph @ Jan 22 2009, 12:40 PM) Even as a player, I kinda wish I had read that wrong. Extreme. Not so extreme when you realize that, 6 months after implant, the character's brain can no longer keep up, he starts having seizures and tremors and, eventually, has to have the whole system ripped out just to not wind up DEAD. Fun stuff, though! |
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Jan 22 2009, 08:10 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 992 Joined: 23-December 08 From: the Tampa Sprawl Member No.: 16,707 |
Only the SR3 stuff Kev. The SR4 stuff doesn't have that problem anymore.
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Jan 22 2009, 08:18 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 663 Joined: 30-June 06 From: Memphis, TN Member No.: 8,811 |
QUOTE (Kev @ Jan 22 2009, 02:59 PM) Not so extreme when you realize that, 6 months after implant, the character's brain can no longer keep up, he starts having seizures and tremors and, eventually, has to have the whole system ripped out just to not wind up DEAD. Fun stuff, though! Its not that bad. However MbW has been directly linked to Temporal Lobe Epilepsy. Its a -10pt quality, but you can get it it your GM thinks that you are abusing the wires or just have to much cyber crammed into your brain. |
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Jan 22 2009, 08:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 992 Joined: 23-December 08 From: the Tampa Sprawl Member No.: 16,707 |
It was that bad in SR3 BRodda.
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Jan 22 2009, 08:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 663 Joined: 30-June 06 From: Memphis, TN Member No.: 8,811 |
QUOTE (InfinityzeN @ Jan 22 2009, 03:25 PM) It was that bad in SR3 BRodda. I meant it's not that bad in SR4. SR3made it like you were playing a Juicer from Rifts. |
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Jan 22 2009, 09:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 992 Joined: 23-December 08 From: the Tampa Sprawl Member No.: 16,707 |
Yepper, you kinda were playing a Juicer from Rifts.
Speaking of which, someone actually made a Juicer package for CP2020. Might be interesting to build for SR4. |
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Jan 23 2009, 04:17 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
QUOTE (InfinityzeN @ Jan 22 2009, 04:06 PM) Yepper, you kinda were playing a Juicer from Rifts. Speaking of which, someone actually made a Juicer package for CP2020. Might be interesting to build for SR4. not that hard. get yourself an autoinjector, a nanobot hive, and some nanobots. and lots of drugs. the end. |
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Jan 24 2009, 12:11 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 992 Joined: 23-December 08 From: the Tampa Sprawl Member No.: 16,707 |
"Drugs, we need lots of drugs..."
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