 Runner's Toolkit, anything known yet?, Advertised in the back of Feral Cities... |
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 Jan 28 2009, 04:09 PM
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Neophyte Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,141 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 2,048  |
You can make your own with a plastic cigar tube, small dice, a thin pencil, and silk paper.
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Jan 28 2009, 05:24 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,851 Joined: 15-February 08 From: Indianapolis Member No.: 15,686 |
QUOTE (Adam @ Jan 28 2009, 06:51 AM)  I'll talk to the people upstairs and see if we can make the contents of the Toolkit public knowledge. Aw, c'mon, Adam, you already leaked the GM screen bit back in August, post GenCon. Just tell us the rest. It feels good to share secrets, right? It'll be a total load off your shoulders. QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jan 27 2009, 06:06 PM) I'm just going to sit here and quietly cackle to myself. You'll have to trust I deserve it. I swear this board feels like a second grade classroom sometimes. "I have a seeee-cret, and yoooUUUuuu doooOOn't." Edit: From October Chat. QUOTE Peter_Taylor> but in fact it’s more general and will appeal to a lot of groups. This product will be a small boxed set that includes a new screen, On The Run, and a bunch of extras including cheat sheets and other goodies. Sooooo... On the Run's confirmed as part of the toolkit as well. Bwa-ha-ha-ha! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) I assumed the cheat sheets referred to a print version of the Quick Start Rules but you can see what happens when one assumes. |
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Jan 28 2009, 05:38 PM
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The back-up plan Group: Retired Admins Posts: 8,423 Joined: 15-January 03 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,910 |
QUOTE (Wesley Street @ Jan 28 2009, 10:24 AM) I swear this board feels like a second grade classroom sometimes. "I have a seeee-cret, and yoooUUUuuu doooOOn't." It's an endemic problem with human nature and NDAs I think. |
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Jan 28 2009, 05:43 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 25-February 08 From: San Mateo CA Member No.: 15,708 |
QUOTE (Wesley Street @ Jan 28 2009, 09:24 AM) I swear this board feels like a second grade classroom sometimes. "I have a seeee-cret, and yoooUUUuuu doooOOn't." Only sometimes? And its way beyond second grade and into 9th. Why else would there be a cool clique? BlueMax /Long haired, leather jacket wearing , loser-hessian clique //Fine, I cut my hair for the job but its still part of me. ///Reference is circa 1989, yeah that dates me |
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Jan 28 2009, 08:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 173 Joined: 19-March 08 Member No.: 15,793 |
I'm concerned about On The Run's inclusion; an extra GM screen (especially updated) would be welcome enough; extra copies of the adventure hooks and NPC's wouldn't be HORRIBLE either, as they are useful.
I found On The Run disappointing as a published adventure the first time around. It's not something I would keep a new edition of and hand the old edition off... I don't plan on ever using it. It's my understanding that this is a common opinion on DS - am I correct? Unless it's so substantially updated (read: rewritten) that it's a different adventure now... I'm not looking forward to it. On the other hand, even if it were a fantastic adventure of unparalleled quality, I wouldn't hand an old version to someone else in my group - they might read it and ruin the surprises! |
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Jan 29 2009, 12:20 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 29-January 09 Member No.: 16,821 |
Well, I need a GM screen. It can't be obtained in stores in Sweden as far as I know. However I allready own OTR and another is kind of wasted. And I am the one in the group who buys everything that is released.
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Jan 29 2009, 03:02 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,851 Joined: 15-February 08 From: Indianapolis Member No.: 15,686 |
QUOTE (JeffSz @ Jan 28 2009, 03:47 PM) I found On The Run disappointing as a published adventure the first time around. It's not something I would keep a new edition of and hand the old edition off... I don't plan on ever using it. It's my understanding that this is a common opinion on DS - am I correct? Pretty much. I was able to make it work and had no problems but a lot of DSers didn't care for it. On the other hand I've been buying a lot of beat up copies of 1st and 2nd ed. canned adventures and have found that they suffered from some of the same (a few even worse) problems. Railroading, nonsensical and unresolved plot lines, requiring the GM to flat out tell the players what they should be doing, obvious plot holes, etc. |
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Jan 29 2009, 03:43 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 25-February 08 From: San Mateo CA Member No.: 15,708 |
I would prefer print versions of the Denver Missions over another print of On the Run.
Wesley, my personal issue with On the Run was that it was not "ready to run". If I need to spend more than 10 hours prep for a session, I just roll my own. Same applies to some of the older adventures too. |
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Jan 29 2009, 04:41 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,851 Joined: 15-February 08 From: Indianapolis Member No.: 15,686 |
QUOTE (BlueMax @ Jan 29 2009, 10:43 AM) I would prefer print versions of the Denver Missions over another print of On the Run. Ditto. QUOTE (BlueMax @ Jan 29 2009, 10:43 AM) Wesley, my personal issue with On the Run was that it was not "ready to run". If I need to spend more than 10 hours prep for a session, I just roll my own. Same applies to some of the older adventures too. OtR was the first Shadowrun game I ever GMed and I did it (pretty much) off-the-cuff. I can see sticking it into an already-existing campaign being a total pain though. |
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Jan 29 2009, 04:46 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 |
If Runner's Toolkit is stuff I already have, I'm not picking it up.
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Jan 30 2009, 12:30 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
As I've said several times now, Runner's Toolkit has a bunch of new content. We'll have a formal announcement about what it is when it's off to press.
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Jan 30 2009, 01:58 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 602 Joined: 2-December 07 From: The corner of Detonation Boulevard and Fascination Street Member No.: 14,464 |
Personaly. I'm just happy to have Catalyst reworking the Gm screen. As you guys haven't let me down yet I have high hopes for the new one. anything else is sprinkles and frosting. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
I bought the last GM screen and although it was adequate. I think it still needed a little work. At the moment I am using it as a folder to keep run ideas and misc notes in. Kinda on topic, the wife just asked me if there were any books I wanted as we have a tax refund coming in a week or so. I have added enough "slush money" to my estimate to cover Runners Toolkit when it gets here. Of course she asked me the expected question. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) " 250$$???? How many books are you getting??" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) |
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Jan 30 2009, 02:06 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 10-November 08 Member No.: 16,576 |
QUOTE (Kanada Ten @ Jan 27 2009, 06:23 PM) It's actually just a pack of gum, cigarettes, a lighter and a pair of pliers. What no duct tape? |
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Jan 30 2009, 03:10 AM
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Grand Master of Run-Fu Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178 |
QUOTE (nylanfs @ Jan 29 2009, 06:06 PM) QUOTE It's actually just a pack of gum, cigarettes, a lighter and a pair of pliers. What no duct tape? That comes with the Deluxe edition. |
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Jan 30 2009, 03:44 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 16,538 |
Twenty dollars extra.
Give them a break. Thus far they've been a *lot* better than the previous publishers, I'm sure they'll swing us a bone. Innocent until proven guilty. Once. |
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Jan 30 2009, 12:52 PM
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Moving Target Group: Validating Posts: 664 Joined: 7-October 08 From: South-western UCAS border... Member No.: 16,449 |
QUOTE (Adam @ Jan 29 2009, 05:30 PM) As I've said several times now, Runner's Toolkit has a bunch of new content. We'll have a formal announcement about what it is when it's off to press. Don't repeat yourself then. Say it once then stand back and watch them flop around like a bunch of beached crappie. It's more amusing. |
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Jan 30 2009, 04:01 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 50 Joined: 30-November 08 Member No.: 16,642 |
i hope you guys get news of this out soon. i just recently started gm'ing SR4 and i really need a GM screen. i'd much rather get a new one from you guys than buy a used one online!
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Jan 30 2009, 04:13 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 |
QUOTE (Adam @ Jan 29 2009, 07:30 PM) As I've said several times now, Runner's Toolkit has a bunch of new content. We'll have a formal announcement about what it is when it's off to press. OK Adam, thanks. I'll quit griping now. |
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Jan 30 2009, 11:36 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,141 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 2,048 |
QUOTE (Adam @ Jan 30 2009, 02:30 AM) As I've said several times now, Runner's Toolkit has a bunch of new content. We'll have a formal announcement about what it is when it's off to press. Some people are dyslexic, and some just can't read. Some think their balls are the size of a sperm whale and happiness would mean being killed as the blood rushes to the wrong end. We shall see what kinds of fun and games the new toolkit will supply. |
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Jan 30 2009, 11:46 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 20-October 08 Member No.: 16,537 |
As long this toolkit incudes an Ares Predator, some smartlinked contancts/glasses/goggles, a comlink, a fake SIN and some body armor I think that many runners will find it usefull (sorry chummers, the ammo is not included).
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Jan 30 2009, 11:56 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,141 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 2,048 |
Does the gun come with a (M-14) clip?
-Chrysalis |
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Jan 31 2009, 01:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 20-October 08 Member No.: 16,537 |
QUOTE (Chrysalis @ Jan 31 2009, 12:56 AM) Does the gun come with a (M-14) clip? -Chrysalis In the basic kit the gun comes with one detachable magazine, and it's manteinance kit, in the Deluxe version it comes with two spare magazines, a scope (no I don't know why), Nerps and an instruction manual for making Voodoo dolls. |
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Jan 31 2009, 01:53 AM
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MechRigger Delux Group: Retired Admins Posts: 1,151 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Hanger 18, WPAFB Member No.: 1,657 |
QUOTE (AllTheNothing @ Jan 30 2009, 06:46 PM) As long this toolkit incudes an Ares Predator, some smartlinked contancts/glasses/goggles, a comlink, a fake SIN and some body armor I think that many runners will find it usefull (sorry chummers, the ammo is not included). Exactly what I need... ANOTHER Predator sitting around the arms locker... I still need to find a proper sized holster for the first one. |
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