 Something Intruiguing in a Dragon's Will, the Horrors, the Horrors ... |
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 413 Joined: 20-November 03 Member No.: 5,835  |
Do we yet know what this is about (via some canon source)? When I read this, I was hit by an interesting idea. I remembered that in the thread discussing the Horrors, someone said that Dunklezahn had expressed belief that metahumanity could eventually stand up to the horrors, and have a chance of beating them. Maybe this ties in with that? Perhaps the vaccine is to prevent the horrors from possessing you, or granting some other minor immunity... Any thoughts? :) |
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Jan 8 2004, 12:19 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,756 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
The Forever Drug by Lisa Smedman. A pretty bad novel from what I've heard, at least concerning the use of the drug as a plot device. It's dragon blood or something like that, supposed to make all the children vaccined extremely long-lived.
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Jan 8 2004, 12:20 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 75 Joined: 24-August 02 Member No.: 3,168 |
Can't think of a source for this, but I remember reading something about how the vaccine was thwarted by parties unknown... I think those against it claimed it had some sort of mind-controlling effect or something similar. Can't recall precisely, I'm sure someone will know!
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Jan 8 2004, 12:20 AM
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Samurai Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 574 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lancashire,UK Member No.: 169 |
Humanis blow up the factory.
I think the vaccine had something to do with SURGE. |
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Jan 8 2004, 12:31 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
NMAth is correct. This was covered in the Forever Drug novel, wherein you discover that said vaccine was intended to replicate in non-elven metahumans the same longevity traits these possess. The biochemistry of said concoction was indeed supposed to be based on dragon genetics and biology. The vaccine was apparently destroyed by Humanis (or the IEs or Lofwyr, mileage varies) before it was distributed and is the Forever Drug in the novel's title.
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Jan 8 2004, 01:09 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,035 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Anahiem, CA Member No.: 100 |
If the game ever progresses into the late 70s or so, it would be interesting to play a character that just happened to get a dose of the stuff. An Orc that lives for hundreds of years. :]
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Jan 8 2004, 03:43 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Riiight. And of course, someone like Dunkie that had enough foresight and cunning to launch the Corp War and basically re-organise the world, didn't see the extremists coming and stash some extra copies away somewhere. :S Just always seemed a little silly to me.
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Jan 8 2004, 07:58 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
Announce the drug, drug gets officially destroyed, 120 year old orc announces that they have enough to start lange scale applications as originally intended, people accept it more willingly.
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Jan 8 2004, 08:11 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Where's the 120 year old Orc come from when they've only been around for 42 years? Relying on an actual Goblinized Orc is not really proof that the vaccine works as stated. |
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Jan 8 2004, 08:13 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
Wait 90 years.
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Jan 8 2004, 01:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 138 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Paris, France Member No.: 639 |
IIRC, Lofwyr was involved in countering Big D project. What's best to counter a Great D than another Great D ? |
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Jan 8 2004, 08:52 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 379 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Earth Member No.: 1,274 |
Ha, it was all a ruse to scan the world's infants for drake genetics! :D
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Jan 8 2004, 09:06 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,035 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Anahiem, CA Member No.: 100 |
That was my first thought when I saw this thread. :) |
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Jan 8 2004, 09:58 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Thats funny. My first thought was: "Here we go again..." |
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Jan 8 2004, 10:19 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Anyone have any idea whether total vaccination would prevent Bone Crown from taking the form of the race in question?
~J |
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Jan 9 2004, 12:27 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
...what?
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Jan 9 2004, 01:05 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 198 Joined: 26-December 03 Member No.: 5,935 |
Ha Ha, well that will start the whole thing up again. So I'm not going to comment.
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Jan 9 2004, 01:15 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 75 Joined: 24-August 02 Member No.: 3,168 |
I assume this is related to the 'Bone Crown is behind Aztechnology' theory? So where is the evidence for this? Let's hear it!
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Jan 9 2004, 01:22 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
No, actually, it's irrespective of Bone Crown's involvement with Aztechnology. One of Bone Crown's powers is assuming the form of any Namegiver race save Dragons. I was wondering perhaps if making an entire Namegiver race contain Draconic genetic material would prevent Bone Crown from assuming their form.
~J |
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Jan 9 2004, 01:47 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
I don't think it would prevent it from taking the form, per se. Prehaps it could be used as a way to tag/flag all non-horrors... A genetic tag...
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Jan 9 2004, 05:05 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,512 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 392 |
In ED canon one of the signs of the coming Scourge, other than the appearence of wraiths and insect beings called Invae, was that all the infants in a certain town in Barsaive shriveled up and died within one year. I can't remember the exact wording off hand but that is fairly close.
I always assumed that the vaccine was an attempt by D to counteract this. |
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Jan 9 2004, 05:19 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
bone crown is some crazy earthdawn name for llofwyr...?
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Jan 9 2004, 05:40 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
I think "Bone Crown" is a Horror of some sort -- I would imagine most, if not all of the Great Dragons have sufficient magic to shape-shift into humanoid figures.
-Siege |
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Jan 9 2004, 01:20 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Bone Crown is an entirely different entity from Lofwyr, and in fact they cannot possibly be the same as the one Name-Giver form that Bone Crown cannot take is Dragon.
~J |
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Jan 9 2004, 01:40 PM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Excuse me but how do you determine a Name-giver race? Does the amount of cyber/essense affect the amount of Namegiver-raciness?
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