Cinema Magic, Movies or TV that have SR magic feel |
Cinema Magic, Movies or TV that have SR magic feel |
Feb 16 2009, 09:25 AM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,944 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
There is frequently a thread going about what movies and television shows depict SR in some way. But there is hardly ever any that depict the magic aspect of the game (other than maybe an eadept here and there.)
I have been trying to think of shows that involved magic, but none of them reminded me of SR in any way. Bewitched - I think not. I Dream of Genie - hardly. Charmed - maybe, but hardly reminiscent of a SR setting. Can anyone make some suggestions? PS. I did just think of a movie that sort of had an aspected mage who showed signs of drain - Firestarter. [edit]Thought of a good movie for a possession spirit, Fallen. [/edit] |
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Feb 16 2009, 10:20 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Good ol' Germany Member No.: 7,015 |
Big Trouble in little China
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Feb 16 2009, 10:46 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,173 Joined: 27-July 05 From: some backwater node Member No.: 7,520 |
I have yet to encounter a show or movie that does magic the SR way. Or even good. Most is so terrible, it's like magic in SR-TV shows. Or something (IMG:style_emoticons/default/twirl.gif)
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Feb 16 2009, 11:10 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 380 Joined: 19-May 07 Member No.: 11,698 |
I know it's not a tv OR movie, but the magic system in the Sword of Truths books are vaugly shadowrun-esque (except for being super-sexist, which I didn't like)
Generally magic fatigues the person, and largely it is dependent on birth and how someone views the world. It allows for fireballs and lightning bolts and such, but not teleportation. And while casting spells can be done with chanting, not chanting but you can get by without chanting if you concentrate hard enough. Heck, you can even accidentally cast spells if you aren't careful, which will, of course, fatigue you. |
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Feb 16 2009, 03:11 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,245 Joined: 27-April 07 From: Running the streets of Southeast Virginia Member No.: 11,548 |
I wouldn't call Sword of Truth sexist in the magic department. It clearly delinieates that magic *IS* different for men & women.
Wizards are male. Sorceresses and Witch women are female. The use & application of their powers are different. The stuff that powers their magic is the same (Additive & Subtractive magic). Magic itself in that world indicates that you always have more than one way to accomplish a task. Need to heal something? Use Additive Magic to add to the person's healing rate. Use Subtractive to reduce the wound. Wait, you need to hurt someone? Use Subtractive to reduce heart or brain functions. Use Additive to increase blood pressure, body temp, and so forth. Magic is used to accomplish the same goals in different manners by the user of it. That line tends to br drawn around gender. Gender influences how one's reactions to the world around. |
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Feb 16 2009, 09:42 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 946 Joined: 16-September 05 From: London Member No.: 7,753 |
I'd mention the Dresden Files as not being too badly done for magic.
Big Trouble in Little China is just sooo good !! How about Buffy ?? It all depends on how you think magic in SR is portrayed, really... ...And I don't think even SR portrays magic the way it used to. |
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Feb 16 2009, 10:10 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,188 Joined: 9-February 08 From: Boiling Springs Member No.: 15,665 |
Synner667, the less said about Buffy the better... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif)
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Feb 16 2009, 11:20 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Ahem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZRSGtLfeTk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPqLimAxNbU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylmJIKHlUsI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svfpOVuypMQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym54kXQ32Gc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2-jflicAD4 Yes, you have to watch all of them. And, of course, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Z9h5k22tI and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3su6hUqf6CE Especially the last one. |
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Feb 17 2009, 12:17 AM
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Deus Absconditus Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 |
Seriously? Scanners.
In Shadowrun, you look at someone, stare at them, and they die. Ergo, Scanners. |
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Feb 17 2009, 01:19 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 380 Joined: 19-May 07 Member No.: 11,698 |
Just remembered, DnD.
No, no, stop, hear me out. Rastlin, as portrayed in the Dragonlance books, has magic that is less like DnD and more like shadowrun, at least in performance if not in theory. He can cast spells, but it takes something out of him, and can even hurt him if he tries too hard. There is even a dragonlance animated movie out there so this counts s a movie (though, don't watch the movie, production values are very low.) |
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Feb 17 2009, 01:27 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,173 Joined: 27-July 05 From: some backwater node Member No.: 7,520 |
The Dragonlance movie looks like a cross from 80's cartoons and early 90's CGI. It is hilarious and entertaining, although still terrible. But he has a point, that Rastlin guy is doing magic more in line with SR than DnD.
I still hate you until the end of the encounter (or up to five minutes) for bringing back those memories. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/twirl.gif) |
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Feb 17 2009, 01:52 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 16-March 05 From: 51° 16' North 7° 11' East Member No.: 7,168 |
Harry Potter if you leave out the wands an teleportation? - Hey, wouldn't Lord Voldemort be a nice Aztech Bloodmage? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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Feb 17 2009, 01:58 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 380 Joined: 19-May 07 Member No.: 11,698 |
Someone just needs to MAKE a shadowrun movie. Make a good one.
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Feb 17 2009, 02:01 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
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Feb 17 2009, 02:13 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 380 Joined: 19-May 07 Member No.: 11,698 |
And a good game too. The Half Life Engine might be a good place to start. They've already used it to create things more bizarre than ShadowRun (portals and hoards of zombies). Actually, I was thinking something along the lines of Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, or Wanted: Weapon of Fate, only with a skill system and RPG elements put in. Is anyone on the boards in the videogame industry? We need to push this! Online petition and all that jazz. |
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Feb 17 2009, 02:14 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
Actually, I was thinking something along the lines of Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, or Wanted: Weapon of Fate, only with a skill system and RPG elements put in. Is anyone on the boards in the videogame industry? We need to push this! Online petition and all that jazz. Haven't heard of either game. And if you want to go the commercial game route, I suggest only Valve. EA will turn it into something else (See: Spore), Microsoft already botched it (See: ShadowRun), Nintendo will make it "kid friendly"... |
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Feb 17 2009, 02:32 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 380 Joined: 19-May 07 Member No.: 11,698 |
Haven't heard of either game. And if you want to go the commercial game route, I suggest only Valve. EA will turn it into something else (See: Spore), Microsoft already botched it (See: ShadowRun), Nintendo will make it "kid friendly"... Uncharted: Drake's fortune ----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUiz2LIGDPI Wanted: Weapon of fate ------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWnJjAISxyY (Note that this game features a 'bullet curving' element that wouldn't be in shadowrun, obviously) |
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Feb 17 2009, 03:05 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,173 Joined: 27-July 05 From: some backwater node Member No.: 7,520 |
Hey, wouldn't Lord Voldemort be a nice Aztech Bloodmage? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) No way. That guy seriously challanged a school kid to prove his superiority. Which he failed at. A Bloodmage would have just carved that sucker up. And spared us a few annoying books, to boot!
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Feb 17 2009, 05:53 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
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Feb 17 2009, 06:15 AM
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Deus Absconditus Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 |
Actually, I was thinking something along the lines of Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, or Wanted: Weapon of Fate, only with a skill system and RPG elements put in. Is anyone on the boards in the videogame industry? We need to push this! Online petition and all that jazz. Yes, but probably doing the wrong thing for the wrong people to have any say in anything. QUOTE (Draco18) EA will turn it into something else (See: Spore), Microsoft already botched it (See: ShadowRun), Nintendo will make it "kid friendly"... The FASA guys got let go or rolled into (I think) the main Microsoft Game Studios offices - and rightly so, because that studio was totally dead. Valve would never make a game that they didn't think up themselves or buy all of the rights for, from the getgo. Besides, there's a lot of smaller studios that could do a good job with it, but most people have never heard of. If you want something to occupy yourself with that's Shadowrun-like, allow me to suggest Fear 2: Project Origin, by Monolith. It's really similar in mood to how I've been running SR lately - cloned soldiers, Mitsuhama Magical Division 13 research with Shedim, Anthroforms, and even a wired reflexes like mechanic for beating people to pieces. Plus it's really stylish and you'll be supporting some of my friends. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Alternately, the new mod for Half Life 2, Dystopia! I haven't played it yet, but it looks pretty cool. |
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Feb 17 2009, 06:21 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
I'll check them out when I have time and if I remember.
Also money. |
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Feb 18 2009, 05:50 AM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
In addition to my highly enthusiastic recomendation Supernatural, I'm also going to suggest Lord of Illusions.
For those unaware, Lord Of Illusions is a 1995 Clive Barker movie starring Sam from Quantum Leap, essentially a modern Noir story about a PI who gets caught up in a conflict between real magicians, including one who is obviously a blood mage channeling a high-force spirit. Some people also suggest Cast a Deadly Spell. Silent Mobius is one of the few shows I know of that actually combines spellcasting with cyberpunk. So you've got high tech supercomputers, Bladerunner vehicles, cyborgs, and wizards all fighting an extrademinsional invasion. Wicked City combines magic and extradimensional invaders with a cyberpunkish world, as well. While Demon City Shinjuku is more post-apocalypse + demons + magic, focusing on a weapon-focus using ki adept . Then you've got Twilight of the Dark Master about a conflict between a very powerful aspected magician and a very powerful free spirit in a cyberpunk future. And then there is X which takes place in the far flung future of 1999. And the magic hunting escapades of Witch Hunter Robin which takes place in the present of 2002. Notice how most of these are anime. It's really hard to find good live action western shows with the modern magic premise and even harder to find them with the cyberpunk magic premise. If we start listing porn, I could probably find more. La Blue Girl, certainly. But that might not be to your liking. And, and let me suggest Supernatural again. Just watch Supernatural. It's awesome. Just ignore the wincest girls, nod, and slowly back away from away them. |
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Feb 18 2009, 09:45 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,290 Joined: 23-January 07 From: Seattle, USA Member No.: 10,749 |
I should note that shadowrun has had 4 video games made about it. The most resent FPS which is shadowrun only in title, one for genesis which is a pretty good representation of the system(and a good game reguardless), one for SNES which is a love or hate game that gets the setting good but not the mechanics, and one for the Saturn which is japanese and I know nothing about.
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Feb 18 2009, 11:29 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 380 Joined: 19-May 07 Member No.: 11,698 |
I should note that shadowrun has had 4 video games made about it. The most resent FPS which is shadowrun only in title, one for genesis which is a pretty good representation of the system(and a good game reguardless), one for SNES which is a love or hate game that gets the setting good but not the mechanics, and one for the Saturn which is japanese and I know nothing about. Yes, that is all true. I was thinking that we need a current-generation Shadowrun game that doesn't SUCK. The SNES one was OK, the Genesis one was good, but the Microsoft FPS was complete bull. They should have called it "An FPS with magic," as it had almost nothing to do with Shadowrun. A true Shadorun game needs to have at least SOME RP elements. And, I don't know anything about the Japanese Shadowrun either. |
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Feb 18 2009, 01:03 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Good ol' Germany Member No.: 7,015 |
I was thinking that we need a current-generation Shadowrun game that doesn't SUCK
we all feel the same (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) HougH! Medicineman |
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