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MatrixJargon
post Mar 6 2009, 07:51 PM
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Hello Dumpshock. I'm making a character for a new fourth campaign and he's pretty much done. He's a security expert/hacker that is to designed to, quite frankly, get you through any door and any security system. Anyway, me and my GM have been looking at one potentially fun concept.

I want to take the Judas quality from Companion, which makes me a sleeper agent of such a level that I don't even know I'm an agent until my trigger goes off. However, there's one big stump. We don't want to necessarily dump my character when the trigger hits and he betrays the group, it needs to be someone that he could potentially rejoin the group afterward or be redeemed for. I have a few ideas myself, most of them simply being stealing something massive from the group or ruining a run in the favor of whomever made him a sleeper agent.

Other ideas are him being a sleeper agent against his choice, some level of brainwashing or force. He's just a spoiled high-lifestyle punk hacker, it wouldn't be hard for a corp to bust in his place, grab him, and force him to pretend to be a Shadowrunner and infiltrate some group. Either way though, I obviously have no fleshed out ideas. Help?
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post Mar 6 2009, 08:07 PM
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So, he doesn't know he's a Cylon...

Really, the new BSG can give you plenty to go with here.
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post Mar 6 2009, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (HappyDaze @ Mar 6 2009, 02:07 PM) *
So, he doesn't know he's a Cylon...

Really, the new BSG can give you plenty to go with here.


Damn you beat me to the punch.

I would take the character of Athena in BSG as an example of someone that betrays humankind and then redeems herself.
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post Mar 6 2009, 09:13 PM
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I say Total Recall it, maybe with a mixture of My Own Worst Enemy. The original is a company man. The fake personality is a true friend to the team. They conflict and the fake personality rebels. You could, for example, find something or someone that the original cares about and use it as blackmail leverage to prevent the original from pursuing its own agenda.
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post Mar 6 2009, 09:37 PM
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00:13 It happened again. They moved the target before we could nab him. Frag, at least we didn't go in this time; the Johnson found out and called. Said somebody had tipped them off. Now the whole team's gone paranoid, checking for bugs and me running scans on every piece of cyber we've got.

08:32 Ugh, spent the whole night cracking the facility commlink, tracing where the order to move came from. It went in pretty deep, counterespionage black ops. Hardcore drek there. It was weird, like deja vu or something. The iconography tickled something. Maybe I worked on the sculpts way back. Got a lead though. Drop box in some back corner hole in the 'Trix. I stealthed in an agent. Maybe our little mouse trap'll catch a rat. Gonna catch a nap - so tired.

10:20 Can't sleep. Nightmares keep walking me up. Shivers. Fuck, maybe a fever. What a fucking nightmare. So cold. God, I need a cigarette. Maybe just a tranq patch -Well, hello little agent, what have you got there. Excellent: an AcessID. Time to trace this bitch -

10:21 Oh, fuck.
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post Mar 7 2009, 07:54 AM
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If you could take the Judas Quality more than once...

Party A sends Judas in to Party B.

Party B sends Judas in to Party A.
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post Mar 8 2009, 07:39 AM
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QUOTE (Kanada Ten @ Mar 6 2009, 01:37 PM) *
00:13 It happened again. They moved the target before we could nab him. Frag, at least we didn't go in this time; the Johnson found out and called. Said somebody had tipped them off. Now the whole team's gone paranoid, checking for bugs and me running scans on every piece of cyber we've got.

08:32 Ugh, spent the whole night cracking the facility commlink, tracing where the order to move came from. It went in pretty deep, counterespionage black ops. Hardcore drek there. It was weird, like deja vu or something. The iconography tickled something. Maybe I worked on the sculpts way back. Got a lead though. Drop box in some back corner hole in the 'Trix. I stealthed in an agent. Maybe our little mouse trap'll catch a rat. Gonna catch a nap - so tired.

10:20 Can't sleep. Nightmares keep walking me up. Shivers. Fuck, maybe a fever. What a fucking nightmare. So cold. God, I need a cigarette. Maybe just a tranq patch -Well, hello little agent, what have you got there. Excellent: an AcessID. Time to trace this bitch -

10:21 Oh, fuck.



Brilliant. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 8 2009, 07:48 AM
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Its simple when its revealed that he's a cylon show them your other char sheet! WHICH PROVES!!! He's really a Daalek.

It so could happen!...really!
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post Mar 9 2009, 04:06 AM
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QUOTE (Cadmus @ Mar 8 2009, 07:48 AM) *
Its simple when its revealed that he's a cylon show them your other char sheet! WHICH PROVES!!! He's really a Daalek.

It so could happen!...really!


i was telling him in pm that he should be a dalek sleeper agent searching for the doctor.
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post Mar 9 2009, 04:09 AM
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QUOTE (Maelstrome @ Mar 9 2009, 05:06 AM) *
i was telling him in pm that he should be a dalek sleeper agent searching for the doctor.


It's true, he did.


I think I've decided not to take the Judas quality, but some ideas here are really good. I just can't picture making a character with that quality without sort of building him around it. If Techno, my new character, dies before the campaigns end, or in the next campaign I play, i'm either doing that or making an AI.
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post Mar 9 2009, 04:31 AM
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The easiest way to prevent the group from going totally postal is to have deeper connections to them. (For example, a family member in the group.) Failing that, the GM could always present two different kinds of interesting senarios. One would involve the group having a chance to get to you before "your employer" does. (Which could be bad if they're shoot first kind of people.) The other could involve someone hiring them to extract you for their own reasons.

In the end, the group has to believe that your character didn't wish the betrayal on them. Hopefully they wouldn't hold OOC info of you taking the flaw against you. If you think it might help, the GM could always start the first session by telling you to take an extra X BP's for a story hook they have planned. The players would likely be "more forgiving" when they use the context of a GM story-ark instead of player made decision.
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