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Malachi
post Mar 12 2009, 02:27 AM
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I know, I missed that one was well Zen. Apparently it was covered in The Book That Will Never See Daylight.
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post Mar 12 2009, 02:30 AM
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I want an LE, but then I'd want a regular printing both for the cover art and to use. The package looks like a good deal...but it's still expensive. Woe is the poor gamer.

Hmm.
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post Mar 12 2009, 02:48 AM
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QUOTE (Xerxos @ Mar 12 2009, 02:08 AM) *
What exactly is PACKS? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/question.gif)

PACKS will be exactly what Adam described it as, an easy to use character and gear "template" system that will save players and gamemasters alike time during character or NPC creation (while remaining entirely customizable and flexible). But more on that when Runner's Toolkit is on final approach.
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post Mar 12 2009, 03:12 AM
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I just ordered the LE and the pdf and I noticed that the 1st/2nd edition cover pic (the one with Ghost, Sally and Dodger) is in there. Is that the normal edition or the limited edition cover??? While the other looks great I am a sucker of nostalgia.
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post Mar 12 2009, 03:22 AM
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Adam, will the LEs be available at GenCon (i.e., will you be holding some back), or will you sell them all through normal (i.e., retail) channels?
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post Mar 12 2009, 03:25 AM
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I just pre-ordered the LE from BattleCorp if that helps.
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post Mar 12 2009, 03:29 AM
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Helps me. I pre-ordered one too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Maybe I can break away from work and hit GenCon (best ask soon, eh (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ).

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post Mar 12 2009, 03:32 AM
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QUOTE (Ayeohx @ Mar 11 2009, 11:12 PM) *
I just ordered the LE and the pdf and I noticed that the 1st/2nd edition cover pic (the one with Ghost, Sally and Dodger) is in there. Is that the normal edition or the limited edition cover??? While the other looks great I am a sucker of nostalgia.

That's page 1 of the interior, the usual "splash" page.
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post Mar 12 2009, 04:36 AM
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Looks great.
QUOTE (Adam @ Mar 11 2009, 07:40 PM) *
(If you bought the SR4 PDF from BattleCorps.com or DriveThruRPG.com in the past, check your email for a limited-time coupon for the SR4 Anniversary Edition!)

Is that already activated at BattleCorps? It sure doesn't work for me.
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post Mar 12 2009, 05:14 AM
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Ok broke now but I got my LE YAY!!!!!!
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post Mar 12 2009, 06:38 AM
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For those that ordered the pdf from Battlecorps and are having a tough time downloading the pdf.

  1. Sign into your Battlecorp account.
  2. Click on the "My Account" link at the top right of the page.
  3. Under "Previous Orders" click the "View" button.
  4. Scroll down to "Download Links" and click on the link.


There's a few ways to get to the pdf that you ordered; this is how I got it though.
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post Mar 12 2009, 06:43 AM
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What picture does the regular edition come with on the front cover? Is it the old 4th edition picture?

QUOTE (Adam @ Mar 11 2009, 11:32 PM) *
That's page 1 of the interior, the usual "splash" page.


Excellent choice gang, much appreciated. I have a poster of Sally and the gang in my closet. Glad to see it in my books again.
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post Mar 12 2009, 06:57 AM
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QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Mar 12 2009, 12:36 AM) *
Is that already activated at BattleCorps? It sure doesn't work for me.

I'll have to wait until biz hours PST to look into this, sorry.

QUOTE (Ayeohx @ Mar 12 2009, 02:43 AM) *
What picture does the regular edition come with on the front cover? Is it the old 4th edition picture?

No -- the front cover of the PDF is the front cover of the print book; second page is the back cover.
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post Mar 12 2009, 08:56 AM
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*arches an eyebrow* OK, three things I have noticed, and I might be reading too much into this..but,
1) There is no mention of Dumpshock in the "find us online", while previously, there was
2) Holostreets is put in there
3) I actually went to www.holostreets.com, and it now mirrors the official SR4.com page...

Does this mean there is an impending distancing from Dumpshock as the official unofficial forums, with Holostreets in the forseeable future?
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post Mar 12 2009, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE (Adam @ Mar 12 2009, 01:56 AM) *
I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be; if German stores order it, they'll get it. I'll double-check with Dave to be sure.


Shipping via Battlecorps is so damn expensive, that's why I asked. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 12 2009, 12:15 PM
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I love this, but I do have a few questions:

The SR4 PDF that I got a new download for is still the old 1.3 version. Does this mean that the old PDF won't be updated to reflect the latest print?

Do I have to buy the new SR4 20th Anniv. PDF, or will I get a free update from my old SR4 PDF?

Will the new SR4 20th Anniv. book now be the only official BBB?

How about all the references in the other rulebooks (Aug, SM, Ars, Unw, RC), will they be updated to fit with the new 20th anniv. rulebook?

Thanks, looking forwards to the rest of the new material.

Lars
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post Mar 12 2009, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE (Adam @ Mar 12 2009, 07:57 AM) *
No -- the front cover of the PDF is the front cover of the print book; second page is the back cover.

Thanks, it's working now.


While the new general artwork is a huge improvement and old pieces are features - how come that the anniversary edition replaced all of the weapon pictures with uniform gray blocks?
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post Mar 12 2009, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE (Larsine @ Mar 12 2009, 08:15 AM) *
I love this, but I do have a few questions:

The SR4 PDF that I got a new download for is still the old 1.3 version. Does this mean that the old PDF won't be updated to reflect the latest print?

Do I have to buy the new SR4 20th Anniv. PDF, or will I get a free update from my old SR4 PDF?


You won't get a free download, but there should be a discount coupon being sent out via email. I actually think it is contained in the email that informed you about the faux update to the old SR4 book -- that's the best way for us to send an update to everyone who bought the previous PDF.

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Will the new SR4 20th Anniv. book now be the only official BBB?


It's our base for moving forward, but it's heavily compatible with the previous SR4 printings -- you can mix and match them at the table with minimal issues.

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How about all the references in the other rulebooks (Aug, SM, Ars, Unw, RC), will they be updated to fit with the new 20th anniv. rulebook?


Most of them don't need updates beyond minor errata and page number references. We'll be sliding those out when we reprint those books.
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post Mar 12 2009, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Mar 12 2009, 10:04 AM) *
While the new general artwork is a huge improvement and old pieces are features - how come that the anniversary edition replaced all of the weapon pictures with uniform gray blocks?

Are you having a PDF rendering isuse, or are you just slamming the equipment art? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 12 2009, 02:43 PM
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I'm just wondering why, say, an Ares Alpha doesn't look like, well, an Ares Alpha anymore. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Mar 12 2009, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE (Adam @ Mar 12 2009, 03:34 PM) *
You won't get a free download, but there should be a discount coupon being sent out via email. I actually think it is contained in the email that informed you about the faux update to the old SR4 book -- that's the best way for us to send an update to everyone who bought the previous PDF.


Thanks, just wantet to make sure. Downloading as I type this...

Lars
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post Mar 12 2009, 03:23 PM
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cool! I can't believe I almost missed this. It'll be a great reference. Gonna be starting up a Ghost Cartels campaign soon, it'll be nice to only need to lug around one book.

I'll be calling my FLGS today. They're good for pre-orders.
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post Mar 12 2009, 03:35 PM
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Funny thing I was just considering buying a new BBB after using some packing tape to fix the corner of my binding. (As a side note this book has put up with some abuse and only recently gotten a small tear) My (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) is secured once again be stalking that poor mailbox.
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post Mar 12 2009, 03:48 PM
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Is there any chance of getting a peek at what that "spiffy" Limited Edition cover will look like?
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post Mar 12 2009, 03:56 PM
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