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post Mar 19 2009, 06:00 PM
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As there's not been much response if it was specifically intended to make it ludicrously harder for all magic to affect technology, I thought I'd go ahead and post a list of spells that will basically be hosed by the new 4A OR table.

Chaos
Chaotic World
Trid Entertainment
Improved Invisibility
Physical Mask
Trid Phantasm
Silence
Stealth
Ignite
Ram
Wreck
Demolish
Animate
Mass Animate
Bind
Net
Fix
Glue
Glue Strip
Lock
Pulse


That's a pretty long list of spells that can basically be tossed in the trash if you want to affect anything other than piñatas.
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- The Mack   List of spells affected by the 4A OR table.   Mar 19 2009, 06:00 PM
- - Zormal   That's a pretty big list. It's a wonder n...   Mar 19 2009, 06:12 PM
- - DireRadiant   Electronic Equipment includes cameras and most sen...   Mar 19 2009, 06:28 PM
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- - Zormal   Well... overcasting alone is not enough. You also ...   Mar 19 2009, 06:45 PM
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- - TKDNinjaInBlack   You guys are forgetting that magicians use all kin...   Mar 19 2009, 08:29 PM
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|- - The Mack   QUOTE (Blade @ Mar 20 2009, 08:36 PM) So ...   Mar 20 2009, 03:40 PM
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