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Apr 16 2009, 12:53 PM
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#126
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,245 Joined: 27-April 07 From: Running the streets of Southeast Virginia Member No.: 11,548 |
We're working on getting the remaining OOP books online. The original plan for getting them scanned and OCRed wasn't working out for a couple reasons, but we have a new arrangement that, once the ball gets fully rolling, should wrap everything up quite neatly. Please expedite this! I'm willing to let the money burn a hole in my pocket to re-obtain a bunch of items that I lost in a house fire (1st printing of the old Street Samurai Catalog, non-redacted version along with a bunch of 1st & 2nd edition books). |
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Apr 16 2009, 01:00 PM
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#127
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Please expedite this! I'm willing to let the money burn a hole in my pocket to re-obtain a bunch of items that I lost in a house fire (1st printing of the old Street Samurai Catalog, non-redacted version along with a bunch of 1st & 2nd edition books). Funny story, there are actually three distinct versions of the Street Samurai Catalog printed in English. |
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Apr 16 2009, 01:46 PM
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#128
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 517 Joined: 27-August 02 From: Queensland Member No.: 3,180 |
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Apr 17 2009, 03:30 AM
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#129
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
There's the original gray-cover 1st edition SSC (1989, complete) and then there are two black-cover revised-for-2nd edition SSCs (1992, no Firepower ammo or IPE grenades).
The difference in the latter is how the expurgated items are concealed. One version has huge black letters saying: BANNED! THIS ITEM PURGED IN SHADOWRUN II! Which completely conceals the artwork, stats, shadowcomments, everything on the page. The second, and I believe rarer, version has a solid black box concealing the stats/shadowtalk area, with the same text as above (though not sized), leaving the artwork for the entries visible. Both of the revised copies are noted as "Corrected third printing." so I honestly don't know why the variation. 's a mystery. |
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Apr 17 2009, 04:34 AM
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#130
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 560 Joined: 21-December 04 Member No.: 6,893 |
I'm surprised no one jumped on this. This comes from Velveeta Cheese, a brand over here in America. .....I've never heard that one, and I live near a Kraft factory. There's the original gray-cover 1st edition SSC (1989, complete) and then there are two black-cover revised-for-2nd edition SSCs (1992, no Firepower ammo or IPE grenades). The difference in the latter is how the expurgated items are concealed. One version has huge black letters saying: BANNED! THIS ITEM PURGED IN SHADOWRUN II! I want one of these now. |
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Apr 17 2009, 06:20 AM
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#131
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Deus Absconditus ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 |
Man, I used to have 3. I thought everyone had this copy...?
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Apr 17 2009, 09:14 AM
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
OK, new Low-Point, Shadowrun censoring frigging equipment? O.o
And then coming up with Mr.Dong and PamelA 2070? |
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Apr 17 2009, 10:51 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,178 Joined: 5-December 07 From: Lower UCAS, along the border Member No.: 14,507 |
I have a copy with the BANNED! but I didn't know about the third printing. Huh.
IIRC, wasn't it banned because they'd made that stuff obselete with the 2nd ed corebook? Like, they'd changed the damage code or something? |
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Apr 17 2009, 11:39 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 647 Joined: 9-September 03 From: Sorø, Denmark Member No.: 5,604 |
I have a copy with the BANNED! but I didn't know about the third printing. Huh. Neither did I, and I thought I had everything for Shadowrun (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) IIRC, wasn't it banned because they'd made that stuff obselete with the 2nd ed corebook? Like, they'd changed the damage code or something? One of the items banned was FirePower ammo, which upped Heavy Pistol damage from 4M2 to 6M2 (IIRC), but with SR2 all heavy pistol damage was now 9M, and there was no need for FirePower ammo. Another was a special trigger, so pistols could shoot twich for each action. But with SR2 free, simple and complex actions was introduced, and since it was a simple action to shoot a pistol, the special trigger was not needed any more. I can't remember what the last item was. Lars |
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Apr 17 2009, 11:59 PM
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,325 Joined: 2-April 07 From: The Center of the Universe Member No.: 11,360 |
There's the original gray-cover 1st edition SSC (1989, complete) and then there are two black-cover revised-for-2nd edition SSCs (1992, no Firepower ammo or IPE grenades). The difference in the latter is how the expurgated items are concealed. One version has huge black letters saying: BANNED! THIS ITEM PURGED IN SHADOWRUN II! Which completely conceals the artwork, stats, shadowcomments, everything on the page. The second, and I believe rarer, version has a solid black box concealing the stats/shadowtalk area, with the same text as above (though not sized), leaving the artwork for the entries visible. Both of the revised copies are noted as "Corrected third printing." so I honestly don't know why the variation. 's a mystery. Curiosity got the better of me. Items in the SS Catalog that were banned: Firepower ammo Expanded clips IPE Grenades All were dropped in some part to a change the damage codes. In the change from 1st to 2nd the clips became the standard so it was duplicative . The reactive trigger was in the comments on the APII, in the SR2, the entire comment was removed. |
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Apr 18 2009, 06:39 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 |
There's the original gray-cover 1st edition SSC (1989, complete) and then there are two black-cover revised-for-2nd edition SSCs (1992, no Firepower ammo or IPE grenades). Interesting - the German Strassensamurai-Katalog (1993) is a mixture of those: It has the 1st Edition grey cover with the first 2nd Edition censoring option. The items are printed over withThe difference in the latter is how the expurgated items are concealed. One version has huge black letters saying: BANNED! THIS ITEM PURGED IN SHADOWRUN II! Which completely conceals the artwork, stats, shadowcomments, everything on the page. The second, and I believe rarer, version has a solid black box concealing the stats/shadowtalk area, with the same text as above (though not sized), leaving the artwork for the entries visible. STOP! GEGENSTAND IN SHADOWRUN II GESTRICHEN with text and artwork still partially visible in the background. |
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Apr 18 2009, 06:43 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 |
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Apr 18 2009, 07:01 AM
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Awakened Asset ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
Interesting - the German Strassensamurai-Katalog (1993) is a mixture of those: It has the 1st Edition grey cover with the first 2nd Edition censoring option. The items are printed over with STOP! GEGENSTAND IN SHADOWRUN II GESTRICHEN with text and artwork still partially visible in the background. Yeah, as far as an all time low goes, that should still qualify. "See? This could have been another piece of gear you could actually have used." Thanks not for reminding me. |
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