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InfinityzeN
post Apr 7 2009, 03:28 PM
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Actually all the security stuff goes out the window when you switch over from Commercial to Private airfields. Hell, even the private area of Commercial airfields have a totally different security framework. Mostly it is "Don't piss off the big spenders". You hire/own a private plane, you got zero problems with security. You going over to the office (looking to rent/hire/buy/etc), you got zero problem with security. Mostly, they won't even talk to you other then the guy at the gate.
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post Apr 7 2009, 03:44 PM
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I think with private travel it pretty much is the same as a cabbie driver. The pilot may do a quick security check that would be all. I would expect they would be more concerned with the aircraft's ability to fly then if you have a toothbrush with you on the plane.

As for international flights I would take the international airport in Dubai as an example. When you come up to the building there is a first level quick security (manly you walk through a metal detector and any metal devices would be checked out. In SR I would expect that they would use a cyber detector as well and maybe a quick astral scan as well). After you check in you go through the second security check point where you have to do the usual put all your watches, chains, rings, cellphones, etc into a bin and hope you still don't set off the detector. This takes you to the waiting area (which is more like a minimall at the Dubai airport). Then you go through the last level of security before boarding the plane. This is like the first check point but random people are pulled aside and their carry lugage is checked by hand. The three levels concentrate on different areas (the highest concern for the area your going into) and this speeds up the process greatly. I imagine in a world where corporations control everything they would want things to be safe but efficent. I could see a series of detectors built into every doorway you have to pass through and they would indicate individuals that are potential threats (these people would be pulled asside and checked).
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post Apr 7 2009, 07:27 PM
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Ares isn't going to worry about the people who are Ares wants armed being armed on their planes. It's ensuring that they really are who they claim. Full biometric ID to start with, which would be compared to the main Ares records, which better show you being assigned to travel on this plane. If you have odd things (like cyberarms) that make it difficult to do a verifiable ID then you get extra-special treatment.
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post Mar 3 2010, 06:52 PM
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Something I'd like to get opinions on in particular is how mages are treated.

I'm guessing they might have a line for the Awakened and anyone watchers pick up as Awakened that tries to go through the regular line draws a red flag. In the Awakened line, they get all the ID checks to make sure they're a licensed magician and all.

I'm going to be using this shortly, as the PCs in my game are going to need to get into an airport to catch someone before they get on a plane. One of the PCs that will be there is a SINless Maya shaman that doesn't have Masking yet. So, with a setup like this, I'm guessing the best way for her to get through it is just a fake ID and magician's license. Are there any alternatives? How would you set this up?
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post Mar 3 2010, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE (Megu @ Mar 3 2010, 01:52 PM) *
Are there any alternatives?


Bluff, lots and lots of bluff.
"Awakened? No sir, I assure you I'm not awakened. Aura? I have an aura? I'm a mage!?"
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post Mar 4 2010, 04:33 AM
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Remember that there is the Quality: Astral Sight. Those people (whose who haven't burned out from getting a point of ware, of course) have a useful but very limited skill. Besides having them be Astral Spotters in combat squads (for the military minded) and teamworking/building low level wards, they are likely to be hired to stand at important security checkpoints (like at the airport).
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post Mar 4 2010, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE (Blade @ Apr 6 2009, 04:38 PM) *
Besides, Nation-States don't have a lot of money to spend for airport security.

By the 2070s most airports have probably already been privatised. Hell, BAA Airports Ltd. already own and operate a number of the largest airports over here in the UK like Heathrow plus own or manage airports in foreign countries as well.
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post Mar 4 2010, 01:18 PM
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Generally I would also model an international airport after today, and add technology to cover the gap.

-underpaid airport security
-Radar scanners checking every passenger through single file entrance
-Chem sniffers looking for chemical explosives
-Magecuffs for magically active people (don’t want them to hurt themselves going astral accidentally)
-Inhibitors for wired people (they might loose control by accident, for their protection)
-All luggage scanned and X-rayed
-Spot checks on random passengers
-High sensor software to analyze and interpret data
-Cameras with facial rec. software going through international criminal photo lists.
-Item database for recognizing threat items in luggage
-All items and people go through a field to destroy RFID tags (might disturb navigation)
-All wireless appliances are turned off (High fines if they go online during flight)
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post Mar 4 2010, 03:02 PM
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See I don't think that SR Airports would be like today. I would think that if the Megacorps had taken over they would want to have good customer service to those who pay for it, and "default" (read really, really, really shitty) for those who can't. I would expect that security check points are set up like priority queues with Corp Execs and hyper elites being only given a token scan down, while the SINLess masses would have to bend over and cough (scale the security in between as appropriate). The key to the system is being able to spoof yourself as an elite, high paying customer worthy of bypassing airport security (plus you need to look the part as well). You may even be able to get away by spoofing yourself as a long term wage slave with good standing in the corp that owns the airport (allowing you to be magically active, or cybered up the yazzo, but you still wouldn't be able to bring guns onto the plane).
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post Mar 4 2010, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE (TBRMInsanity @ Mar 4 2010, 04:02 PM) *
See I don't think that SR Airports would be like today. I would think that if the Megacorps had taken over they would want to have good customer service to those who pay for it, and "default" (read really, really, really shitty) for those who can't.


Then use my list and remove a few security measures per customer "lvl"

ALL: Tourist
SOME: Business
FEW: Exec
NONE: VIP
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post Mar 4 2010, 09:52 PM
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Tough has the GM needs is a good answer.


Just remember that cyberware is going to be very common by 2070.

Looking at the 3 to 6 thousand already being spent on Lasik eye surgery, cybereyes are also going to be extremely common.

And for injuries cyberware also remains cheaper and so much faster than forced grown transplants. Just take it out of the box and slap it in.


I do wonder how heavy security on board the flights will be at least as far as cyber restraints except for Spurs and the like.

Based on the current size of the military in the US (talking infantry and marines only), some thing like 1 in 18 men would have at least Wired 1.

If a airport security guard passes 500 people through in an 8 hour shift, then over 40 of them are going to have military cyberware.

Add in enhancements for sports, injury, or on the job and you are talking about a LOT of people to put cyber restraints on.


The best way to keep from being hijacked is to just not let any one in the passenger compartment in to the cockpit.

Something goes wrong you flood the compartment with knock out gas.


Not to mention some people might not like to see service men/fire fighters/law enforcement and security personal treated like criminals (cyber restraint cuffs).

Especially since Orcs and Trolls are already that strong. Unless you are going to "Profile" and require all Orcs and Trolls to have remote taser restraints on in case they go berserk?


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post Mar 5 2010, 02:13 AM
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Ok, thanks guys. There are some really interesting ideas in this thread.
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post Mar 5 2010, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE (cndblank @ Mar 4 2010, 10:52 PM) *
Especially since Orcs and Trolls are already that strong. Unless you are going to "Profile" and require all Orcs and Trolls to have remote taser restraints on in case they go berserk?


I can certainly imagine Humanis sympathizers trying to legislate that, yeah.
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