 Hey, that pistol is from Robocop! |
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 15-March 09 Member No.: 16,968  |
What things Shadowrun copied from other sources? I think everyone knows of Ares Predator being Robocop's movie pistol. But what else are there? |
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 Apr 9 2009, 05:20 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 141 Joined: 24-February 09 From: In the Shadows USA Member No.: 16,909 |
Didn't it look more like the salvette guardian? And that is a touchy subject, just don't ask William Gibson LOL.
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Apr 9 2009, 05:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 254 Joined: 23-November 07 Member No.: 14,331 |
Some of the AR-Displays used in Shadowrun Art seems to be so much inspired by contemporary animes like Ghost in the Shell that its bordering on theft (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Technomancers seem to be like a mixture of Matrix, Dark City and Blame! But it's rather mood to count the sources of influence since Shadowrun incorporates so much. |
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Apr 9 2009, 05:25 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
QUOTE (ICPiK @ Apr 9 2009, 08:20 PM)  Didn't it look more like the salvette guardian? And that is a touchy subject, just don't ask William Gibson LOL. No it looked exactly like Ares predator was potraid in 1/2:nd edition, before it was changed for something more sensipul. But that look was only thing taken, predator was never a machine pistol like auto-9. |
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Apr 9 2009, 05:30 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Yes, that's the same pistol.
Tolkien and Gibson. |
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Apr 9 2009, 05:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 141 Joined: 24-February 09 From: In the Shadows USA Member No.: 16,909 |
Ohhhh yeah i see it now!
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Apr 9 2009, 05:49 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 15-March 09 Member No.: 16,968 |
I have some more theories...
old Fuchi/Novatech central building in Seattle: the police department building from Blade Runner; Ares Viper: the pistol of Molly, the razorgirl from Neuromancer; Walther Palm Pistol: the same design as of Deckard's pistol in Blade Runner, slightly modified; Savalette Guardian: the pistol from Judge Dredd movie, slightly modified; |
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Apr 9 2009, 05:55 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
The slivergun is obviously Molly's gun.
Seriously though, you have four editions of a game made up almost exclusively on creative re-interpretations of popular culture, and you want a list of references?? |
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Apr 9 2009, 05:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 15-March 09 Member No.: 16,968 |
Oh cmon, maybe there is something hidden that nobody discovered yet!
And I think the bike "Suzuki Aurora" is the Tetsuo bike from Akira. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Apr 9 2009, 06:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Near my daughters, Lansdale PA Member No.: 6,668 |
I thought the Ares Predator was a Desert Eagle
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Apr 9 2009, 06:15 PM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
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Apr 9 2009, 06:31 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
QUOTE (silva @ Apr 9 2009, 08:49 PM) Walther Palm Pistol: the same design as of Deckard's pistol in Blade Runner, slightly modified; Yes, but again only the image on second edition, no other similarities. |
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Apr 9 2009, 06:35 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 6-April 09 From: NYC Member No.: 17,057 |
QUOTE (Method @ Apr 9 2009, 01:15 PM) Naaaaah. One's silver! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) |
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Apr 9 2009, 06:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 380 Joined: 19-May 07 Member No.: 11,698 |
QUOTE (silva @ Apr 9 2009, 12:02 PM) What things Shadowrun copied from other sources? I think everyone knows of Ares Predator being Robocop's movie pistol. But what else are there? Um, couldn't Robocop's gun fire full auto and burst fire? Ares predetor can't do that . . . although . . . . Take a Ruger Thunderbolt, extend the clip, modify it for Semi Auto and Full Auto, and have some recoil comp method . . . and then you'd have a pretty good faccimmilie . . . . I am going to go post that in the Modded guns section, right now. |
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Apr 9 2009, 08:52 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 560 Joined: 21-December 04 Member No.: 6,893 |
QUOTE (Degausser @ Apr 9 2009, 01:36 PM) Um, couldn't Robocop's gun fire full auto and burst fire? Ares predetor can't do that . . . although . . . . When you're a cyberzombie with a boatload of 'ware, recoil is something that happens to other people. The Desert Eagle is supposed to be something of a wrist-breaker even without the ability to fire automatic. |
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Apr 9 2009, 08:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 141 Joined: 24-February 09 From: In the Shadows USA Member No.: 16,909 |
QUOTE (SpasticTeapot @ Apr 9 2009, 09:52 PM) When you're a cyberzombie with a boatload of 'ware, recoil is something that happens to other people. The Desert Eagle is supposed to be something of a wrist-breaker even without the ability to fire automatic. Heck yeah... let alone you can barely get your hand around the grip |
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Apr 9 2009, 09:15 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Isn't the propper way to shoot a DE with both hands and braced pose anyway? O.o
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Apr 9 2009, 09:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 640 Joined: 8-October 07 Member No.: 13,611 |
The Auto 9 is in the new Exiles comic, which came out yesterday. Morph points it at a baby Hitler while giving the new group their orientation.
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Apr 10 2009, 02:03 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Frm the street samurai catalog:
G12A3Z is the pulse rifle from Aliens, without the grenade launcher. The Ingram smart gun is just a standard Ingram (often confused with an Uzi) with a honking big silencer on the front. The TMP is clearly the RL Tech-9 machine pistol. |
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Apr 10 2009, 03:09 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (ICPiK @ Apr 9 2009, 10:20 AM) Didn't it look more like the salvette guardian? And that is a touchy subject, just don't ask William Gibson LOL. Actually, sticking to real life here, I though it looked more like a Beretta 93R... Though a Savalette Guardian would work as well if using Shadowrun Tech... |
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Apr 10 2009, 03:12 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Apr 9 2009, 07:03 PM) Frm the street samurai catalog: The Ingram smart gun is just a standard Ingram (often confused with an Uzi) with a honking big silencer on the front. Which is usually referred to as a Sound Suppressor, not a silencer |
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Apr 10 2009, 03:29 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 944 Joined: 19-February 03 Member No.: 4,128 |
QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Apr 9 2009, 09:03 PM) The TMP is clearly the RL Tech-9 machine pistol. With the logical addition of a slide from a paintball gun... The picture makes it look like you can clear a jam without moving your hands from firing position... Convenience, or does it simply jam that often? The fire mode is listed BF/FA. I suspect that "burst mode" refers to it only firing 3-5 rounds between jams. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Apr 10 2009, 03:38 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 944 Joined: 19-February 03 Member No.: 4,128 |
QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Apr 9 2009, 09:03 PM) The Ingram smart gun is just a standard Ingram (often confused with an Uzi) with a honking big silencer on the front. Perfect proof that SR was meant to be Pink Mohawk rather than Black Trenchcoat. The real Ingram MAC-10 and MAC-11 were much more popular with movie prop men than with people who use guns for a living. As I understand it, people who really needed a SMG that small preferred the Mini-uzi. It is kind of like saying that the street racers of 2050 will be using cars directly developed from a 1972 Gremlin. |
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Apr 10 2009, 03:40 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Ed_209a @ Apr 9 2009, 08:38 PM) Perfect proof that SR was meant to be Pink Mohawk rather than Black Trenchcoat. The real Ingram MAC-10 and MAC-11 were much more popular with movie prop men than with people who use guns for a living. As I understand it, people who really needed a SMG that small preferred the Mini-uzi. It is kind of like saying that the street racers of 2050 will be using cars directly developed from a 1972 Gremlin. Good Point... and quite entertaining too... |
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Apr 10 2009, 05:12 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 560 Joined: 21-December 04 Member No.: 6,893 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 9 2009, 10:40 PM) Good Point... and quite entertaining too... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Straight-6_engine#4.0 You'd be quite frankly amazed how long tech from something as dreadful as the Gremlin can stick around. |
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