 Foci Questions, Stealing & Spoofing |
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 Apr 22 2009, 03:49 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 17-September 06 From: Utah USA Member No.: 9,402  |
If I steal another mage's focus can I destroy his bond to it?
Also, if I use Masking can I use another mage's foci by taking on that mage's signature? |
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Apr 22 2009, 04:32 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,507 Joined: 11-November 08 Member No.: 16,582 |
QUOTE (Ayeohx @ Apr 22 2009, 05:49 PM)  If I steal another mage's focus can I destroy his bond to it? Yes, if you pay karma.QUOTE Also, if I use Masking can I use another mage's foci by taking on that mage's signature? Not to my knowledge. IIRC the only magical construct you can "spoof" is a ward.
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Apr 22 2009, 04:42 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 17-September 06 From: Utah USA Member No.: 9,402 |
Thanks again Dakka. Do you know of a way to simply destroy the bond without killing the mage or destroying the item?
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Apr 22 2009, 04:43 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
QUOTE If I steal another mage's focus can I destroy his bond to it? QUOTE Yes, if you pay karma. Thereby binding the Foci to yourself. However, his bond would only be of use for Ritual Spellcasting (if you have the metamagic for it), possibly using a Spirit to Search for the guy, and that's about it. A foci only works if it is against the skin or on the body (or something). Pockets work, backpacks work, but as soon as you put down your backpack with your spellcasting focus in it, the focus powers down. |
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Apr 22 2009, 05:52 PM
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The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 |
QUOTE (Ayeohx @ Apr 22 2009, 11:42 AM) Thanks again Dakka. Do you know of a way to simply destroy the bond without killing the mage or destroying the item? Have someone else bond it. |
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Apr 22 2009, 05:55 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,507 Joined: 11-November 08 Member No.: 16,582 |
See above. Any bonded focus can be rebonded by another awakened character if the ritual is performed and the Karma spent. I do not know if there is a way to sever the bond without rebonding it.
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Apr 22 2009, 06:02 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
There are a couple of old metagics - Focus Blocking (Awakenings) and Severing (State of the Art: 2063) that could be used to temporarily shut down a focus and/or prevent it from being used as a link back to the target. Doesn't break the tie, just frays it a little.
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Apr 23 2009, 01:27 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Apr 22 2009, 11:02 AM) There are a couple of old metagics - Focus Blocking (Awakenings) and Severing (State of the Art: 2063) that could be used to temporarily shut down a focus and/or prevent it from being used as a link back to the target. Doesn't break the tie, just frays it a little. And of course, not available in SR4... *sigh* |
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Apr 23 2009, 02:20 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,431 Joined: 3-December 03 Member No.: 5,872 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 22 2009, 09:27 PM) And of course, not available in SR4... *sigh* Apparently we need SOTA 2073. |
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Apr 23 2009, 03:37 AM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 10,236 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
Disrupt (Focus) also temporarily deactivates a focus, but the bond is still intact. What about inserting it into a region with a background count high enough to reduce its Force to zero? There should be no bond until it is removed from the background count (or vice versa).
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Apr 23 2009, 03:51 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,431 Joined: 3-December 03 Member No.: 5,872 |
I guess not having an easy to to permanently break a bond makes sense to me. Karma is hard to come by, having ways to just destroy someones karma expenditure would be harsh, like lose limbs harsh, and losing limbs is out of the rules without optional rules. Anyways it seems there is a way to make someone lose there karma expenditure in the rules, you just got to spend karma to do it, so bind the focus already.
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Apr 23 2009, 04:42 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 |
Thermite works too.
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Apr 23 2009, 05:00 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,431 Joined: 3-December 03 Member No.: 5,872 |
QUOTE (kzt @ Apr 22 2009, 11:42 PM) Thermite works too. Yes. Destroying the focus works as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But I suspect the intent was to break the bond while keeping the focus in a salable state which is why the bonding idea is not working for the OP. |
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